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#551 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

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12y 142K 12,531

It is a new week.
This week will close out old projects and start new ones.

IJ is in the final stages of rebuild. image (resized).jpg

Phantom of the Opera is set for teardown.
This is going to be a tougher project because it will require a manual cabinet repaint which is kind of like doing two playfield restorations(sides)and three mini playfield restorations(Head sides and front)
There is a lot to cut out and grain to deal with but anyway we will get into that as it is happening.
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The Spirit cabinet is out of the paint shop

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#552 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Poto set up. A217CB9A-DBE3-4BCB-AB61-118AAEF93778 (resized).jpeg

Grand Prix moved one step closer.
Now in a room that I can spend a bit more time with it at my leisure figuring out that player count issue.
Also need to hunt a better lockbar for it. I have many to choose from at my warehouse. I will be heading there later today to take delivery of some new cabinets.

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#553 5 years ago

JM

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Time for my better half to fix my dinner.

yes, the founder's curmudgeon is pretty darn tasty

however, why do you keep avoiding the "what's in your tumbler" question?!? is it some secret media recipe handed down by your great-great-great grandmother hutchins?

ps
I've decided that I'm holding your belated b-day beer present hostage until we get an answer. inquiring minds ~~want~~ NEED to know

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#554 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Quoted from j_m_:
yes, the founder's curmudgeon is pretty darn tasty
however, why do you keep avoiding the "what's in your tumbler" question?!? is it some secret media recipe handed down by your great-great-great grandmother hutchins?
ps
I've decided that I'm holding your belated b-day beer present hostage until we get an answer. inquiring minds want NEED to know

I keep meaning to answer that.

The key thing about it is to let it get kind of old. It doesn’t work as good when it is new.

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#555 5 years ago

JM

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ok, I guess that I'll send you the beer, but only if you post it when you drink one

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#556 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Cabinet day.

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#557 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

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12y 142K 12,531

Let’s see if we got a Tommy Cabinet.

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#558 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Yep. image (resized).jpg

Loaded up

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#559 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Tommy cabinet and head are in the paint shop

Lots of knots to deal with. Nail holes etc

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#560 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Looks pretty accurate so that is good.

It does look to be missing the bevel around the holes in the front of the cabinet.

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#561 5 years ago

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BorgDog

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Holy knot-tastic HEPman!

looks like it should be a decent grade of plywood but that's a lot of nasty knots.

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#562 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Quoted from BorgDog:
Holy knot-tastic HEPman!
looks like it should be a decent grade of plywood but that's a lot of nasty knots.

I agree. The bad part is the inside is pretty much knot free. I was told this happens sometimes think based on how the material suctions to the CNC

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#563 5 years ago

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BorgDog

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Ha, flip that bugger inside out!

You'd think that would be something whoever makes them would watch for, put the good side on the outside.

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#564 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Speaking of the CNC it is hard to believe how these come about.
I deal with a local builder that does it by hand these came from Virtuapin and are done on a CNC.

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#565 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

The bevel is made around the buttons with appropriate sized dowels wrapped in sandpaper held at a specific angle.

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#566 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Bottom is masked. image (resized).jpg

Now on a painting dolly. Some of the internal blocking was left off but provided.

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#567 5 years ago

JM

j_m_

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I would have thought that all things considered, the side panels are pretty much interchangeable until the corners are mitered for the join (unless that is done during the cnc process and the left and right side could have been swapped around so that the knots were on the inside where it was not visible

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#568 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Concerns are marked and honestly even though it looks a bit ugly most of these knots feel close to have been taken care of.

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#569 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

The knots are filled using a combination of fiberglass filler and glazing filler.
The idea behind that is the fiberglass based is good at oozing into the knot and extra hard once cured but would be a bit too hard for what is mostly a cosmetic repair. That is where the glazing mix comes into strike a balance. Once sanded if anything further is needed it will be done strictly with the glazing and these chemicals will recognize each other and bond best.

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#570 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

The filler is sanded and we are all set to prime.
When I fill knots and sand them I try to keep from fully reexposing them. Just leave a see through layer of filler
By doing that there is no risk of the future priming and painting coatings settling into them.

If this were a cabinet to be decaled far less crucial but this will be a painted cabinet.

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#571 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

One more thing before I prim.
I need to smooth the face of the head.

That fuzziness in the ply looks pretty ugly if not filled.

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#572 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Face is filled and sanded. image (resized).jpg

This corner was a bit wobbled looking and was built back up to a true level.
You can tell how low by looking at the filler it is two layered and the wood is not exposed until we get outside of the corner. image (resized).jpg

The most important thing when doing the face is to not trench it out.

That is too easily done with a machine sanded or by following the straight lines of the face.
The best method is wrapping a straight block of wood with sandpaper and only sanding both surfaces at the same time like this.

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#573 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

I have investigated a bit and can find no reason why I cannot install a set of skid on this cabinet.

These are installed with screws and I will fill the holes before priming.

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#574 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

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12y 142K 12,531

Tommy cabinet is primed.
Heavily so there is plenty there to sand and shape the surface.

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#575 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Now guidecoated.

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#576 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

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12y 142K 12,531

Thank you James S
This is excellent. image (resized).jpg

Set up the next TAF.

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#577 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Back at the warehouse unpacking yesterday’s cabinet order.
Need to grab the new TAF cabinet.

No Flipper button holes

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#578 5 years ago

TAM

tamoore

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TAF: Flipperless edition.

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#579 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Before I get around to the TAF cabinet I am going to start painting the Tommy

This will be done through stenciling.

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#580 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Before I do that I am going to quickly gut the current cabinet.

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#581 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Speaker panel is worth noting.

Creative
It is at the very least worth two cents.

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#582 5 years ago

OP

HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Head gutted.

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#583 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Playfield is out.

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#584 5 years ago

JM

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Back at the warehouse unpacking yesterday’s cabinet order.
Need to grab the new TAF cabinet.
No Flipper button holes

are you sure that's a TAF cabinet and not a munsters LE?

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#585 5 years ago

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lordloss

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Speaker panel is worth noting.
Creative
It is at the very least worth two cents.
[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Pinball life now sells the speaker hooks.

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#586 5 years ago

AAA

pintechev

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11y 91,300 4,437

Quoted from j_m_:
are you sure that's a TAF cabinet and not a munsters LE?

Who needs flippers when you have The Power

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#587 5 years ago

OP

HEP

High_End_Pins

HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Tommy cabinet gutted.

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#588 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Old cabinet is placed in the paint shop with the new one.
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Looks like I am missing detailed holes like these for the hinge bolt
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The hole for the playfield tracks. image (resized).jpg

The coin door bolt holes.
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The center hole for the latching mech. image (resized).jpg

Hopefully that is it.
The hinge holes look like a pain in ass at least the flipper button holes are there

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#589 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

The head is drilled for the latch. 7A4EDC05-84B8-4882-9AC2-9694B9F2F5A4 (resized).jpeg

Then it is placed on the lower to double check. 05920ABD-731F-4945-8F63-6982B6EBC78B (resized).jpeg

Now the other part of the latch is bolted inside out to the lower and marked for drilling.
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Then roughly drilled in just enough for the tool to clear first.

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#590 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

With the head locked down I can deal with the lack of hinge bolt holes.
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This game uses a multi part hinge bushing system and that is why the holes are more involved. They are similar to Flipper button holes. Hinge is placed.
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The interior has to be done first because it needs a solid starting point for the forstener bit. 24D12879-E22C-419F-9210-C418C3FA72A7 (resized).jpeg

A small pinpoint is made on the outside in alignment with the hinge hole. E91AC251-4078-4969-AF46-07ECDC20F52A (resized).jpeg

Then from the inside the larger hole is drilled about halfway through the cabinet wall. A7889F47-D275-420A-8D55-C67D72650ECB (resized).jpeg
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Then the smaller hole outside is drill inward.

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#591 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Now the bushing system is tested 1892082D-69B5-46B9-BCBF-DC13AED90CF5 (resized).jpeg
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The head is then folded to check the fit and function. A5602FB8-9BFC-480D-A522-3F33ACB75C1D (resized).jpeg

After that the latch is double checked and head alignment.
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The hole is then neatened up and a slight bevel made around it. 74906A23-93DA-47E1-ABDD-1122EC8E875F (resized).jpeg
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#592 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Holes are measured and marked then drilled in the sides. 041EA08C-B5C3-45A4-B89A-5C13CC228BFF (resized).jpeg

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Both sides done and coin door bolt holes as well. Should be all set to sand and paint from there.

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#593 5 years ago

CPI

cait001

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HEP is more productive in a single pinside post than I am in a week.

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#594 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Tommy cabinet is sanded.
Will be cleaned and painted next.

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#595 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

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First it is blacked out inside and on the face like the factory.

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#596 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

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Now sprayed on the outside with adhesion promoter.

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#597 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

While that dries I will run over to the warehouse to meet the local cabinet builder that is dropping off a couple new cabinets.

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#598 5 years ago

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snakesnsparklers

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
While that dries I will run over to the warehouse to meet the local cabinet builder that is dropping off a couple new cabinets.

Make sure he put flipper button holes in them!

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#599 5 years ago

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HEP

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HEP

Matthews, NC

12y 142K 12,531

Local cabinets delivered. 423147A7-8652-4BE0-9A27-AFE7DED2CACA (resized).jpeg

EBD
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Look promising. New lamp panels as well.

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#600 5 years ago

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twinmice

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Dont know if this has been asked before, but what do you do to avoid the wrinkles in the new cab artwork after bolt installation? I know don't over tighten I have barely tightened the bolts and sometimes still get the wrinkles. Any tips? Thanks Mike

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