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HEP This Week 11-11-19


By High_End_Pins

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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

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#5451 3 days ago
Quoted from jsa:

I have a special request. I've owned and partially restored/maintained my TOM for many years. I've taken apart the armature/trap door mechanical assembly a thousand times. I've never found an adequate solution to eliminating the eventual pop-out-straight-down-the-middle issue. New armatures, weaker coils, it's been one continuous, losing battle!
I'd love to see what you do in your restoration to this assembly, and what tricks you might have to avoiding this problem (shared with many TOM owners).

This issue is common on TOM along with a couple others.
The core of it is within the design of the game and the entire Trap door mech
It can’t be fully solved on each and every kick out because there is no way to reaim the entire assembly
The reason is that it is all assembled within one steel plate.
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That steel plate mounts to the playfield with Several screws. Of those three different non adjustable points tied to post and two t nuts. image (resized).jpg
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The only real chance I can see of redirecting the kickout would be slotting or enlarging the holes of that base in those areas.
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Doing that may give some ability to tweak the direction of the kickout.
Another thought would be to install washers under those points to give a slight pitch and *maybe* slightly alter the way it ejects.
This are my observations of the assembly and potential problems with adjusting it.
There are some mechs,shots and features of many games that are honestly just found to be flawed by design and this may be one of them.
IJ mode start bounce outs,TZ divertor dumps, and many more come to mind. Some can be solved others improved but I will pay close attention to this one and see if I can possibly make any reliable improvements.

#5452 3 days ago

Chris, I thought you might appreciate this food break. Low country boil. There is nothing like deer camp in Arkansas. Love it.

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#5453 3 days ago
Quoted from jsa:

I have a special request. I've owned and partially restored/maintained my TOM for many years. I've taken apart the armature/trap door mechanical assembly a thousand times. I've never found an adequate solution to eliminating the eventual pop-out-straight-down-the-middle issue. New armatures, weaker coils, it's been one continuous, losing battle!
I'd love to see what you do in your restoration to this assembly, and what tricks you might have to avoiding this problem (shared with many TOM owners).

I also elongated the holes in the mounting bracket.

Then rotated the assembly to make it consistant.

#5454 2 days ago
Quoted from epeabs:

Chris, I thought you might appreciate this food break. Low country boil. There is nothing like deer camp in Arkansas. Love it.[quoted image][quoted image]

Looks good. I decided to join you long distance.

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#5455 2 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Looks good. I decided to join you long distance.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Yours looks equally as good. Enjoy.

#5456 1 day ago

TOM cabinet is built up.
This was a spare used lower cabinet I had And a new head.
TOM uses a very specific lower cabinet and with a deadline on this project it made the most sense to use it.

Pinsound board was requested as well

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#5457 1 day ago

The trapdoor mech was rebuilt.
One thing I had forgotten about on my last TOM restore was to swap the trap door up coil to a FL11753
If you do that you need to clip the diodes off.
It seems like the original coil(20099 I think)
doesn’t work as well with the replacement stainless bracket.

When rebuilding one of these best to replace all the switches as well.

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#5458 1 day ago

Then there was the trunk assembly
Both the upper and lower were completely rebuilt. The upper has a new hand made harness that I will finish once it is in place since it has to pass through the playfield.

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#5459 1 day ago

After that was the backboard assembly.
These are a bit more work than it seems
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The biggest issue on this game so far has been rust on the minor parts like sockets and some easily replaced hardware.

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#5460 1 day ago

The panel was stripped
Lower profile sockets and wiring were used and short protections used. Much like TOTAN these sockets tend to get bent or broken as the wire drag across them.

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#5461 1 day ago

The rusted brockets were lightly blacken through metal etching.
This both cures the rust issue and also makes a bracket that blends in much better.
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After that a new decal is installed on the backboard and it can be rebuilt.

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This game will get a lighted mirror so a hole is made to more neatly pass the wiring through.
Even if reverting back to the original mirror it would be hidden.

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#5462 1 day ago

Backboard is rebuilt tiger is as well with the requested saw mod.
That bracket was also blackened for a cleaner look and the entry ramp is assembled.

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#5463 1 day ago

Amazing as always

#5464 1 day ago

Has the POTO resto been canceled? A friend and I were really looking forward to seeing that one done

#5465 1 day ago
Quoted from sohchx:

Has the POTO resto been canceled? A friend and I were really looking forward to seeing that one done

No it is just a real slow starter because it won’t move through the process as quickly as others.
Games like the POTO and Spirits need much more attention and down time because they have serious rust and corrosion issues that require much more plating
The Williams and Bally’s that move through here quicker often have the same needs but I have a large stock of these parts pre plated.
I could and would do that with the Data East and Gottliebs but there just isn’t enough volume of it here to justify it.

#5466 12 hours ago

Working through the TOM ramps.

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#5467 12 hours ago

New ramps will get stainless flaps on this build.
Another thing is that I will change the levitating ball magnet connectors from a .093 three pin to a .062 two pin for a smaller footprint.

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#5468 12 hours ago

Ramps are built all hardware polished with new switches.

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#5469 12 hours ago

Lamp boards for TOM.
These were pretty dirty.

All headers were reflowed as well the side mount sockets.

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#5470 12 hours ago

Now working through the coil assemblies.
Starting with the trough.

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#5471 9 hours ago

TOM playfield is sanded then polished.

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#5472 8 hours ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

TOM playfield is sanded then polished.

You do know now that we've seen you paint the top of the T-nut by the trunk yellow that all your other ToM customers are going to expect and want that done on their restores.

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