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HEP This Week 1-20-2020


By High_End_Pins

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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
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  • Blacked out 54 votes
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  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
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#5401 80 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

They turned out great The key is to leave some slack in there for them to move around.[quoted image]

Once they come out of the tumbler, do how do you protect them? The tumbler usually removes some sort of protective coating on the metal.

#5402 80 days ago
Quoted from epeabs:

Once they come out of the tumbler, do how do you protect them? The tumbler usually removes some sort of protective coating on the metal.

flitz in the media adds a bit of a wax/polish protective coating to the parts

#5403 80 days ago

Spent this morning working on a NOS BSD playfield.
When this was sent to me I thought it would be an easy thing to squeeze in.
Turned out to be a much bigger job because it was not drilled nor dimpled on either side
It also had moisture issues.
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The need to drill and dimple it meant it would have to sit until I found or had a good template to work off of.
That finally happened when I completed my last BSD project. That playfield was rough enough to justify using.

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#5404 80 days ago

The topside was drilled and dimpled first.

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#5405 80 days ago

Then the underside was done. There were so many holes to place I used a marker to keep track.

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#5406 80 days ago

Then it was prepped for the first clear application.
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The playfield doesn’t have any major scratches but it has quite a few small nicks. D0257F14-B753-4679-B0D2-E49E512F4B89 (resized).jpeg
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When the issues are this small sometimes a simpler approach works best. You can’t accurately match gradients especially in tiny spots.
What I like best in these situations is just to study the art itself and enhance that.
Here are two small examples.

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Small white dot works better than a mismatched gradient and it looks completely factory. E90E9B77-9572-449D-9698-B859A5CAC5C0 (resized).jpeg

Same approach here
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#5407 80 days ago

The playfield is then cleared for the first time.
There is more work needed but this is the foundation to work off of.
The main concerns from here on will be trying to clean up the natural wood in the holes where it has a blackened/mildew look and getting the inserts closer to level in some areas.

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#5408 80 days ago

You do incredible work. High attention to detail. And i like the way you find work arounds for impossible stuff like matching the gradients.

Does anyone ever ask you to do your magic to more modern titles like machines that are from 2000s or 2010s? I was thinking classic sterns like LOTR or TSPP are getting toward the age where they may be rolling through?

#5409 80 days ago
Quoted from Rickwh:

You do incredible work. High attention to detail. And i like the way you find work arounds for impossible stuff like matching the gradients.
Does anyone ever ask you to do your magic to more modern titles like machines that are from 2000s or 2010s? I was thinking classic sterns like LOTR or TSPP are getting toward the age where they may be rolling through?

Check out the topic index at the top of each page in this thread. It has most of the completed pins linked. There's a link to a completed Simpsons in there. He did a LotR, too, but I don't recall seeing final pictures for that one, just some in-progress ones.

#5410 80 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

These are always a pain to pick out of the tumbler then a pain to pick the media out of.
That was solved with some simple zip ties.

You do realized that half the forum just sh*t themselves for never having thought of that before?

#5411 80 days ago

Hey Chris, have you seen this yet? There is supposed to be a special compound and pad to use with it but I haven’t seen it.

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#5412 80 days ago
Quoted from bam10:

Hey Chris, have you seen this yet? There is supposed to be a special compound and pad to use with it but I haven’t seen it.[quoted image]

No. I haven’t.
For me I find most of the time that grits that go over 2500 to 3000 are not going to do much of anything substantial enough to justify the step.
If you were polishing a jet black show car that no one could even touch it might be practical but nothing useful in the world of pinball I can think of.

#5413 80 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

No. I haven’t.
For me I find most of the time that grits that go over 2500 to 3000 are not going to do much of anything substantial enough to justify the step.
If you were polishing a jet black show car that no one could even touch it might be practical but nothing useful in the world of pinball I can think of.

3m says that using 8000 after 3000 you use the dedicated pad and polish for 1 step buffing. We will see

#5414 80 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

No. I haven’t.
For me I find most of the time that grits that go over 2500 to 3000 are not going to do much of anything substantial enough to justify the step.
If you were polishing a jet black show car that no one could even touch it might be practical but nothing useful in the world of pinball I can think of.

I had a jet black car once - my first and my last. It looked great for about two hours after being washed.

#5415 80 days ago
Quoted from lb1:

I had a jet black car once - my first and my last. It looked great for about two hours after being washed.

LoL same here. My saying is everyone owns a black car..... once.

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#5416 80 days ago

SC playfield is fully wired now.
Then placed in the cabinet.

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#5417 79 days ago

I detect a briney note in the air.

#5418 79 days ago

SC Apron is placed then powered up for testing.

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#5419 79 days ago

Following. Took me 3 years to track down all the new old stock parts for my high end phantom of the opera restore. good luck man

#5420 79 days ago

Getting pretty close to finished with the SC.

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#5421 78 days ago

One of the last details for the SC is to make the bank look a little more realistic.
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First it is plastic prepped and primed. image (resized).jpg

Using a multi step process of misting and shading different base coats over one another
Then intermixing those here and there
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The bank is ready. The idea is to make it look like it is made of granite or stone. I don’t want to overdo the details and make it look sloppy so I rely on the shading to give it some depth in areas that would be carved like the lettering then just accent what I think would be symbols and the handles.

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#5422 78 days ago

Brilliant!

#5423 78 days ago

Damn dude, that SC is beautiful. That game is such a pain in the ass.

#5424 78 days ago
Quoted from TaylorVA:

Damn dude, that SC is beautiful. That game is such a pain in the ass.

Thanks Taylor.
I hadn’t done one for a couple years and had forgotten just how cramped it is to work on.

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#5425 78 days ago

The bank is now placed.
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I added a subtle spotlight to help brighten it up and make it a bit more of a focal point. 07814D48-428A-45C5-9D6E-C7E73102BD83 (resized).jpeg
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#5426 78 days ago

Game is powered up
This is without the spot light.
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The rest are with both highlighting the bank itself and the better overall lighting in that general area now.
I am not a big spotlight guy but this one was a good addition.

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#5427 78 days ago

I'd deposit my money there.

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#5428 78 days ago

SC is all set. Should make it outside for pictures later today.
Still trying to get the timing back down with the time change.

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#5429 78 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

SC is all set. Should make it outside for pictures later today.
Still trying to get the timing back down with the time change.[quoted image]

Gorgeous!!!!

#5430 78 days ago

She's a beaut Clark!

#5431 78 days ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

Hey Chris,
I may have missed someone asking before but do you have and collect pins at this point? Do you play or with doing all the restores you find you don't want to play once your day job is done.
Just curious.
Love the thread. It's impressive and keeps me motivated to work on my projects.

No I don’t collect pins anymore and only play for fun a few times a year.
I still enjoy the process and hobby in general just not that aspect of it anymore.
The job and occasional grind of doing this for a living definitely plays a factor in it.

#5432 78 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

The bank is now placed.
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I added a subtle spotlight to help brighten it up and make it a bit more of a focal point. [quoted image]
Truthfully this entire area could use a little more light because there is just no GI anywhere near the spinning dial. [quoted image]
The spotlight blends in well.It would have been easier to mount it on the plastic above the upper flipper but that would have block the line of site for the player [quoted image]

Those tiny directional LED spotlights Stern started using on Deadpool would be perfect for this. They don't need a large cone to direct the light and the whole assembly is about as big as a dime.

#5433 78 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

No I don’t collect pins anymore and only play for fun a few times a year.
I still enjoy the process and hobby in general just not that aspect of it anymore.
The job and occasional grind of doing this for a living definitely plays a factor in it.

I would agree with that sentiment except for one experience in my life. I worked at a pizza restaurant all through high school and during summers and winter time off in college. I worked 40 plus hours a week making pizza, I ate pizza 3-4 times a week for 5-6 years, and to this day I still love pizza - all kinds.

#5434 78 days ago

and another great one from HEP!!

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#5435 78 days ago

SC finished.

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#5436 78 days ago

SC playfield.

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#5437 78 days ago

SC inside.

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#5438 78 days ago

Do you mind me asking what you used at the top of the translite glass to block the view above the backboard assembly?

That has to be the nicest SC in existence. Amazing work.

#5439 78 days ago
Quoted from Steve_in_Escalon:

Do you mind me asking what you used at the top of the translite glass to block the view above the backboard assembly?
That has to be the nicest SC in existence. Amazing work.

Thanks.
I used this stuff.
Placed just below the top channel then the side channels are installed.

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#5440 78 days ago

Awesome Safecracker restore!!! Owned one once for a week before I flipped it, kinda wish I kept it.

I will say this for Safecracker: it is a HEAVY ASS pin for as small as it is!!!

#5441 78 days ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

Awesome Safecracker restore!!! Owned one once for a week before I flipped it, kinda wish I kept it.
I will say this for Safecracker: it is a HEAVY ASS pin for as small as it is!!!

SC was the first game I ever did.
Looks like that was over 17 years ago. Time really does fly.

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#5442 78 days ago

I will pack the SC up and ship it straight out of here too heavy and awkward to move around anymore than I need to.
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What’s next? TOM.
Should go quick.

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Then Fathom I have been waiting for decent side rails to be available again.
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The last few batches I had received were terrible.
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These were just some of the issues.
Ripples down the entire bend.

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Mis matched grain patterns one is a left the other is a right. Completely unusable.
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The protective film seems to protect them from sending a decent set of rails despite charging for them. It is really ridiculous. Parts quality continues its decline into the very basics at this point.
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#5443 77 days ago

For as many rails as you replace, I'm surprised you can't just get a local shop to make up bunch for you. Nothing special about metal when you're a metal guy.

#5444 77 days ago

SC is pre packed. Maverick supervises.
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I will palletize it once I know the pick up day.

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#5445 77 days ago

The TOM is set up to teardown
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#5446 77 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

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Thanks so much for letting us look behind the curtain on your process. You are truly a wizard!

I have a quick question. Referring to the photo you posted (quoted) after re-drilling the ball guide through hole... Do you attempt to fill the old hole in the replacement playfield field?

Thanks and please keep up the amazing work!

#5447 77 days ago
Quoted from Walamab:

Thanks so much for letting us look behind the curtain on your process. You are truly a wizard!
I have a quick question. Referring to the photo you posted (quoted) after re-drilling the ball guide through hole... Do you attempt to fill the old hole in the replacement playfield field?
Thanks and please keep up the amazing work!

On that particular fix or adjustment I like to file it and make it more of a slot then use a washer under the post of the ballguide. That gives me more flexibility during the assembly.

#5448 77 days ago

Gutting the TOM base game.
First up is the lamp panel from the backbox.
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This one is made out of plywood and is missing a chunk.
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The backside isn’t too back some wire and socket issues.
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The panel is gutted then repaired and refinished.

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#5449 77 days ago

Panel is then rebuilt with plated parts and new sockets as needed.

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#5450 77 days ago

I have a special request. I've owned and partially restored/maintained my TOM for many years. I've taken apart the armature/trap door mechanical assembly a thousand times. I've never found an adequate solution to eliminating the eventual pop-out-straight-down-the-middle issue. New armatures, weaker coils, it's been one continuous, losing battle!

I'd love to see what you do in your restoration to this assembly, and what tricks you might have to avoiding this problem (shared with many TOM owners).

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