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HEP presents a Tale of Two Medieval Madnesses

By High_End_Pins

3 years ago

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#115 3 years ago
Quoted from hawkeyexx:

Are these the two MM TNT amusement had for sale?

I’d give them more credit then this.

#117 3 years ago
Quoted from Jvspin:

Excellent work, but curious at some of the decisions to reuse old parts like the translite trim on MM2 vs installing new. Also seems a little unfair that because MM1 was in such bad shape, it ends up looking nicer than MM2.
I think the yellowing around the holes in the MM2 light panel would bother me if I was having such a restoration done.

I was wondering this myself as well.

#124 3 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

These are good questions and it makes sense that it would be confusing.
The reason some choices are made have a lot to do with two things.
The first is needs.
Does MM 2 need new trim or to have the panel painted?
No but because of the results of MM 1 needing those things it makes it seem like that would be more ideal.
The reason it is not ideal for MM 2 the second reason.
Parts fit and potential damage.
Had I removed all the sockets from MM 2s eggshell they would most likely break and potentially the eggshell itself
Also the original glass channels fit MUCH better than the new replacements.
So to summarize.
MM 2s owner would have been punished essentially by having to buy all new sockets,possibly an eggshell and lesser fitting glass channels.
MM 1 needed those things and had nothing to lose by attempting it.
Make sense?
One more thing to add is the yellow around the bulbs is on the inside of the panel only not the outside so that is important too.
If it were on the outside it would be more of a need at that point.

That does makes sense!

Me (and Jvspin as well I assume) weren’t criticizing your work. You’re obviously doing an amazing job.

I thought maybe the MM2’s customer specifically asked you to keep the budget as low as possible or something. Haven’t thought about all those other reasons. Also didn’t noticed it was only the back that was yellowed.

Looking forward to your next updates!

#125 3 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Boards removed. Cleaned swapped for better examples that are already serviced. [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Maybe a few stupid questions to ask but I’m not that familiar with the whole in-depth pin restoration yet:

What does servicing mean when you’re talking about electronics like those boards?
How can you tell a board needs it?
And is it only affected by age or also by use?
And is that something only older boards benefit from or do you do that with newer machines as well? (Although you won’t receive many newer machines for restoration I guess)

EDIT: just trying to learn something here. Hopefully I’ll be able to do some minor repairs on older pins one day.

#148 3 years ago

Why do those flaps have that ‘split’ and what does it change do their behavior when they’re upside down?

#149 3 years ago

And another noob question here:
I see you using different techniques like painting, powdercoating and etching.

What’s etching? Sometimes you still paint over it afterwards. Why not paint straight on the material?

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#556 3 years ago
Quoted from mcbPalisade:

I know you are rebuilding these for their owners. I'm curious to see your estimate of what price they might command on the national market.
I know you can buy an MMr for ~$8,400 or so. Thanks

First of all a remake is not the same as an original. It might be the same for us to play with but not the same for all collectors.
Secondly somebody might also have sentimental value to their own pin and want it be in the best state possible. That alone might be priceless.

I don't think anybody will let HEP restore a pin and sell it soon. I don't think that's ever a wise decision from an economical standpoint. I also think this is the reason you son't see a HEP restored pin for sale anytime soon.

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