HEP presents a Tale of Two Medieval Madnesses

Backboard and peasant ramp are in place.
About another hour or two until complete.

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#553 5 years ago

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mcbPalisade

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I know you are rebuilding these for their owners. I'm curious to see your estimate of what price they might command on the national market.

I know you can buy an MMr for ~$8,400 or so. Thanks

#554 5 years ago

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Quoted from mcbPalisade:
I know you are rebuilding these for their owners. I'm curious to see your estimate of what price they might command on the national market.
I know you can buy an MMr for ~$8,400 or so. Thanks

I really don’t know anymore.
I just do the work and charge for that.
There have been times where I have done $8000 restorations to $500 games so it is just not something I try to keep up with.

#555 5 years ago

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
I used these.
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Those Comet LED pads work great. I used them in my Stern POTC and they really light up the pops much better than one LED bulb. As a note, I tried one of these pads in my Black Knight and they were slightly too big for that pop assembly, modification required.

Nice choice on the Amber to match the posts.

#556 5 years ago

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Quoted from mcbPalisade:
I know you are rebuilding these for their owners. I'm curious to see your estimate of what price they might command on the national market.
I know you can buy an MMr for ~$8,400 or so. Thanks

First of all a remake is not the same as an original. It might be the same for us to play with but not the same for all collectors.
Secondly somebody might also have sentimental value to their own pin and want it be in the best state possible. That alone might be priceless.

I don't think anybody will let HEP restore a pin and sell it soon. I don't think that's ever a wise decision from an economical standpoint. I also think this is the reason you son't see a HEP restored pin for sale anytime soon.

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#557 5 years ago

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Quoted from Koos:
Secondly somebody might also have sentimental value to their own pin and want it be in the best state possible. That alone might be priceless.
I don't think anybody will let HEP restore a pin and sell it soon. I don't think that's ever a wise decision from an economical standpoint. I also think this is the reason you son't see a HEP restored pin for sale anytime soon.

I agree if you want something but can't buy it then it is priceless. I have thought that the extra $ might just be for the "Williams" name on the box.

I'd guess you might get $12K for one of these if it came up for sale, maybe 14. The $20K machines are reserved for the risky modern ones like BBB or Big Lebowski.

#558 5 years ago

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MM 2 playfield Build is complete.

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#559 5 years ago

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#560 5 years ago

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Amazing!

#561 5 years ago

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I cannot wait to see the em game Chris works ons!

#562 5 years ago

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MM 2 done

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#563 5 years ago

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More MM 2

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#564 5 years ago

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Playfield. MM 2

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#565 5 years ago

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Rear playfield MM 2 apron etc

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#566 5 years ago

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Inside MM 2

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#567 5 years ago

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#568 5 years ago

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Quoted from noitbe1:
Black fits great. The side also. Almost art here ...

Thanks.I forgot to detail that wireforms are actually black nickel.
So a little nicer look there than straight black.

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#569 5 years ago

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#570 5 years ago

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Quoted from noitbe1:
Black nickel, first time i see that in a pin. The fit and finish looks better than new from factory and remake (in my opinion)

Thanks.
I got the black nickel wireforms from Chris at Hot Rod Arcade.

#571 5 years ago

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A fun journey, followed it all the way through. Thanks.

#572 5 years ago

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A fun journey, followed it all the way through. Thanks.

Thank you. I enjoyed it as well. 2 MMs in less than 30 days wasn’t an easy task but a fun one.

#573 5 years ago

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Awesome (as always) from start to end, enjoyed every bit of it and learned a lot.

#574 5 years ago

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Have you ever done a Congo? I want to get mine done so bad but or Canadian dollar is worthless.

#575 5 years ago

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Thanks.I forgot to detail that wireforms are actually black nickel.
So a little nicer look there than straight black.
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I had my CftBL wireforms done in black nickel a few years back by pinchroma. definitely looks nicer than chrome in my opinion

#576 5 years ago

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Going to circle back around and finish up the Pinball Magic thread.
Then what’s next
Radical or Dr Who?

#577 5 years ago

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Dr Who please.

#578 5 years ago

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Going to circle back around and finish up the Pinball Magic thread.
Then what’s next
Radical or Dr Who?

ummm.. what are these system 80s you were talking about? would love to see some older stuff (oh yeah the em too)

#579 5 years ago

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Going to circle back around and finish up the Pinball Magic thread.
Then what’s next
Radical or Dr Who?

I’m thinking TOTAN.

#580 5 years ago

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Quoted from BorgDog:
ummm.. what are these system 80s you were talking about? would love to see some older stuff (oh yeah the em too)

Spirits but I am doing three back to back so that might be a while Have new cabs built

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#581 5 years ago

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I’m thinking TOTAN.

The owner of that game doesn't want to see pictures He wants to be surprised so it would be tough to document that one here

#582 5 years ago

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Very nice, the subtile details really make this pin unique.

#583 5 years ago

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The owner of that game doesn't want to see pictures He wants to be surprised so it would be tough to document that one here

That guy sounds like he’s really confused.

#584 5 years ago

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Beautiful work as always Chris! Thanks for taking the time to document and share the restore with us. I like the pop bumper choices, and the black trim and habitrails look really nice. I always learn something from seeing these restore threads, so thanks!

Hope the EM coming up is Joker Poker!

So what beer did you celebrate the completion of the MM restores with?

Todd

#585 5 years ago

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Going to circle back around and finish up the Pinball Magic thread.
Then what’s next
Radical or Dr Who?

Radical!!

#586 5 years ago

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Quoted from Mitch:
Radical!!

x2!

#587 5 years ago

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Awesome and entertaining as all your restoration threads...Chris you're the best amongst us all!

Why not do a EATPM soon?

#588 5 years ago

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Radical please!

while you are at it, restore a 2nd pf for me

#589 5 years ago

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https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/hep-four-million-bc-restore/page/7#post-3718304

I want to see you tackle an EM pin.

#590 5 years ago

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#591 5 years ago

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mcbPalisade

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Good tip here, a link to Chris's website.

If you have some time to kill check out his picture albums. http://christopherhutchins.com/gallery/Finished-Games?page=1

The bar is raised so high by his work that seeing as many of his machines as I can is now on my bucket list.

#592 5 years ago

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Radical!! Would be great!

#593 5 years ago

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I cant wait to start my TOM restore after following a few HEP threads...thanks for taking the time to not only document but to show procedure and also to answer questions.

#594 5 years ago

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I think these restore topics of Chris are brilliant.

By showing his work, he provides interesting reading and helps others who want to restore their games. I expect he also gets more customers.

Everybody wins.

#595 5 years ago

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Didn't think I was going to like the black flipper buttons on MM2, but once I saw the whole package outside with black armor, wow. Such a clean look with that dark cabinet art.

#596 5 years ago

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Quoted from Jvspin:
I think these restore topics of Chris are brilliant.

They are Epic!!!

By showing his work, he provides interesting reading and helps others who want to restore their games. I expect he also gets more customers.
Everybody wins.

#597 5 years ago

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chad

Quoted from yancy:
Didn't think I was going to like the black flipper buttons on MM2, but once I saw the whole package outside with black armor, wow. Such a clean look with that dark cabinet art.

By far the best match ,compared to the factory stainless original.

#598 5 years ago

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Going to circle back around and finish up the Pinball Magic thread.
Then what’s next
Radical or Dr Who?

I'd suggest doing a Whirlwind for everyone to see

#599 5 years ago

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Quoted from kapper:
I'd suggest doing a Whirlwind for everyone to see

I actually have an idea brewing for a Whirlwind thread since I have two here to do.
Both are DP one is supposed to be Whirlwind #1 so once I get the pieces in place for them I will likely do that.

#600 5 years ago

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