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HEP presents a Tale of Two Medieval Madnesses


By High_End_Pins

1 year ago



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#501 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Hinges are salvaged.
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Much easier than repainting them.

#502 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Much easier than repainting them.

Even if I painted and cleared them I would likely have to sand and polish unless I got extremely lucky. I was just glad there was enough material there to work with.
Surprised they were shipped out/sold looking like that though. Makes me wonder what “normal” people do.
Just put them on?
Send them back?
Eat it?

Lockbar is done.

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#503 1 year ago

Rails are placed and the lower is up on four legs.
Will place the head and wire next.

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#504 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Makes me wonder what “normal” people do.

Send them back.
Warn other pinsiders not to buy from that source if they don't fix them.
I would be super pissed as you probably are.

#505 1 year ago

I want to own one HEP pin before I die.

#506 1 year ago
Quoted from paul_8788:

I want to own one HEP pin before I die.

but wouldn't that run you something in the neighbourhood of $2.3M canadian dollars?

#507 1 year ago
Quoted from j_m_:

but wouldn't that run you something in the neighbourhood of $2.3M canadian dollars?

Very close.

#508 1 year ago

MM 2 Head is mounted on lower cabinet and it should be moving quickly to completion from here.

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#509 1 year ago

Wiring MM 2 cabinet now.
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I will need to clean up the shaker wiring and install.

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#510 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Send them back.
Warn other pinsiders not to buy from that source if they don't fix them.
I would be super pissed as you probably are.

Yeah that is what I should do but I just don’t have time to deal with it.
Outing someone publicly rarely goes well for anyone involved from what I have seen unless it is something really substantial.
I have had some serious shit happen to me over my 45 years so some lousy powder coating doesn’t even register on the anger meter

#511 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Yeah that is what I should do but I just don’t have time to deal with it.
Outing someone publicly rarely goes well for anyone involved from what I have seen unless it is something really substantial.
I have had some serious shit happen to me over my 45 years so some lousy powder coating doesn’t even register on the anger meter

When you polish out the defects, what's your normal process? An orbital polisher with various polishing compounds? Or do you wet sand with high grits?

#512 1 year ago
Quoted from jsa:

When you polish out the defects, what's your normal process? An orbital polisher with various polishing compounds? Or do you wet sand with high grits?

Sand mechanically with a DA
800,1200,then 1500
Buff with wool pad and appropriate compound then polish with a foam pad and appropriate polish.

Technology has outdated most wetsanding in the polishing phases so there are good sanding and polishing systems out there from 3M and Meguires that can be followed.

If I were doing curvy surfacesthen I would get more detailed and go over watersanding and such but for plain old flat Pinball parts it is a waste and a mess.

#513 1 year ago

MM 2 Subwoofer is given an extended pig tail to clear the shaker motor. D82DB7B2-0C4A-4C12-9874-E4B234E69F1E (resized).jpeg

Shaker motor wiring is fully integrated with the cabinet harness. image (resized).jpg

I will make a new mating harness for the playfield portion that will give plenty of wire to easily hide it within there and allow for trouble free folding of the head,raising of the playfield.

#514 1 year ago

MM 2 Cabinet wiring and build is complete less the labels and cabinet sheet.

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#515 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

MM 2 Head is mounted on lower cabinet and it should be moving quickly to completion from here.
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Looks like I need to print more MM decals

#516 1 year ago

Going to rebuild the MM 2 dmd panel.
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To remove the push clips I simply squeeze them

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#517 1 year ago

Window and speaker mount are removed.

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#518 1 year ago

Mitering the cabinet edges...why do after the decal install and not before?

#519 1 year ago
Quoted from mbwalker:

Mitering the cabinet edges...why do after the decal install and not before?

HEP May answer this but it is an added touch most cannot do. He is sanding just the edges so there is no seem of the deacal which is prone to lifting at the edges. He then paints to touch it up. You can easily damage the decal and you have to be real good to touch up paint so it matches and looks like it belongs and is not a hack job. This is one of the details that sets a HEP restoration apart from many others. It is a small detail most would never know has been done but can help prevent decal lifting issues many years from now. Hope that makes sense.

#520 1 year ago

What do you do with all the old playfeilds you don't restore?

#521 1 year ago
Quoted from Mitch:

What do you do with all the old playfeilds you don't restore?

Send them back with the game,toss them or save them for a rainy day.

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#522 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Send them back with the game,toss them or save them for a rainy day.
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I'd buy a roached TAF pf for the right price if you have a spare. Looking for some wall art.

#523 1 year ago

Panel was washed and dried.
New window installed along with larger speaker housing. image (resized).jpg

Foam is used to fill in the large gap from this style ColorDMD.

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#524 1 year ago

Speaker panel is built for MM 2

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#525 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

To remove the push clips I simply squeeze them

Thanks for showing this up close! No idea why I couldn't figure that out.

#526 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Panel was washed and dried.
New window installed along with larger speaker housing. [quoted image]
Foam is used to fill in the large gap from this style ColorDMD.
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I see foam on speaker panel on sides and top and a piece of foam on the ColorDMD screen. Is that foam on the ColorDMD on the bottom? If so, any reason you put that piece on the ColorDMD versus the speaker panel? And is that a custom lip you put on the front of the speaker panel around the DMD opening & speaker openings?

#527 1 year ago
Quoted from hawknole:

I see foam on speaker panel on sides and top and a piece of foam on the ColorDMD screen. Is that foam on the ColorDMD on the bottom? If so, any reason you put that piece on the ColorDMD versus the speaker panel? And is that a custom lip you put on the front of the speaker panel around the DMD opening & speaker openings?

The foam placement on three sides of the panel and one on the color dmd itself is just done because The bottom is what can easily be spotted by the player and needs to be perfectly straight.
There is a little more leeway on the rest.
By placing on the dmd itself it is a flat surface.

#528 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

The foam placement on three sides of the panel and one on the color dmd itself is just done because The bottom is what can easily be spotted by the player and needs to be perfectly straight.
There is a little more leeway on the rest.
By placing on the dmd itself it is a flat surface.

These simple little details I bet most would not think of... the perfectionism is impressive. Thanks for sharing you're skills and techniques. Doubt I will ever restore a pin but these threads make me want to try.

#529 1 year ago
Quoted from swillie:

These simple little details I bet most would not think of... the perfectionism is impressive. Thanks for sharing you're skills and techniques. Doubt I will ever restore a pin but these threads make me want to try.

I remember thinking I wouldn’t ever do it. LOL. Oh well, can’t close that door now.

#530 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

they were welders at heart.
Between the flippers and the pops I walk away with two brackets,two secondary brackets and a lone plunger.
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All the rest goes in the trash. [quoted image][quoted image]

Hopefully you recycle the metal.

#531 1 year ago

Working on the final stages of wiring MM 2s playfield.
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The GI rewire is complete and all switches are new.

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#532 1 year ago

Making a color correct and extended harness for the playfield portion of the shaker motor wiring.

It will replace the section pictured in the floor

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#533 1 year ago

Underside wiring of MM 2 complete.

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Time to brand it.
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Branding cleaned up the clarity of the brand can be real hard to predict because it has a lot to do with how The smoke gathers around it ,the wood,the heat humidity etc
This extra step cleans it up a bit though.

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#534 1 year ago

Playfield is in MM2s cabinet.

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#535 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Using a grinder I rough it into shape. [quoted image]
And there it is I will wash it ,watersand the edges and flame torch it next
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I would like to create on of these. Can you explain what you mean by "flame torching" it? Thanks.

#536 1 year ago
Quoted from Jenk540i:

I would like to create on of these. Can you explain what you mean by "flame torching" it? Thanks.

It means taking a butane torch
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Then lightly and quickly running it around a plastic surface you would like to remove scratches and rough edges from.

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#537 1 year ago

MM 2 Powered up for testing
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Going to go with amber caps to tie the jet area all together.

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#538 1 year ago

Chris as part of the harness prep do you do anything to clean the internals' of the light sockets? If so can you share that process.

Thanks

#539 1 year ago
Quoted from Pintopia:

Chris as part of the harness prep do you do anything to clean the internals' of the light sockets? If so can you share that process.
Thanks

I typically replace them.
This came out of MM 2s harness.
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In the event I do reuse them I use lacquer thinner and these brushes to clean them up

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#540 1 year ago

Speaking of lamps
This morning I had the pleasure of changing out the third brake light in my wife’s car.
It is a 2010 Toyota Avalon and the dealer noticed it during the annual inspection and wanted $537 to replace it.

It runs an LED strip that isn’t serviceable.

Needless to say I just ordered the OEM light on line for $120 and set out to install it myself.

Sounds simple enough but they actually built the entire rear interior around that light.
Started out here. D00A8C2F-BF19-4F53-A99A-F0D89FBF5297 (resized).jpeg

Remove bottom seat easy.Car looked clean but it is amazing what kids lose in a back seat over the years. 9582EB18-50C5-4828-BE6F-66A6BB6D286A (resized).jpegRemove upper seat. More complicated.

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Now the rear shelf has to come out. Removing the C pillar covers is a true pain. It is the clips used to make sure they interact properly with the side air bags. 0918A781-0FE2-47BC-8AE6-F95615DF3125 (resized).jpeg
I have filled the back of my truck up with interior parts from the car
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Shelf out. You can see the light now and how it is fully encased within the shelf panel.
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New light installed but I found the old one actually works when you wiggle the connector. I could have probably just soldered it but after this much trouble I am taking no chances. 529448D8-D502-4455-ADA7-F5775B2A6780 (resized).jpeg

Back together. That was the easy part except those recliner arms. 5895585E-D969-498F-AA42-2D3B643A47D6 (resized).jpegE84376B4-3302-4470-884F-B24E7A97B3D1 (resized).jpeg

Light works back to Pinball
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#541 1 year ago

A friend's wife's 3rd brake light went out in a Kia. He's a good mechanic but ran out of patience and hacked into the light to change the bulb. So good job doing it correctly, that is what sets professionals apart.

#542 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

It means taking a butane torch
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Then lightly and quickly running it around a plastic surface you would like to remove scratches and rough edges from.
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Ok. Thanks for answering. Ordered a couple of those pieces so I’ll give it a try.

#543 1 year ago

Ready to swap out the drawbridge housing for MM 2
I will use one of Kerry’s upgraded versions with the thicker gate and riveted look. image (resized).jpg

The original assembly is missing clips and washers. image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg

I will redo the wiring also.

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#544 1 year ago

I know each game is different, but what is an estimate of hours per game you put in?

#545 1 year ago

Drawbridge mech is built up for MM 2
All new wiring with protections etc

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#546 1 year ago
Quoted from chad:

I know each game is different, but what is an estimate of hours per game you put in?

Just in general I shoot for around 100 per game.
That is for just a general WPC game with cabinet art available.
When it starts getting into early Bally solid states with painted cabinets and extreme rewiring that can almost double but you can’t charge double so there is a balance there.
I am about to do 3 System 80s back to back and an EM and those are even more time consuming.

#547 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Just in general I shoot for around 100 per game.
That is for just a general WPC game with cabinet art available.
When it starts getting into early Bally solid states with painted cabinets and extreme rewiring that can almost double but you can’t charge double so there is a balance there.
I am about to do 3 System 80s back to back and an EM and those are even more time consuming.

Thank you Chris.

#548 1 year ago

Drawbridge installed and tested in MM 2 all good.
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Really happy with the jet bumpers they are putting out a lot of light in what is usually a bit darker area. image (resized).jpg

The cleared apron is also placed.

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#549 1 year ago

Sorry if you already answered this but what leds did you use in the pop bumpers? Looks like the leds light up the whole pop bumper pretty good.

#550 1 year ago

I used these.

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