HEP Is Hired To Protect The Black Knight

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#51 16 days ago

Chris,
A couple of questions:

Will you replace bulb sockets?

What about switches. You probably don't need to replace on this machine, but what do you do on a machine that has been out in the world? Is there a way to straighten and refresh the old switches.

Tia,
Bob

#52 16 days ago
Quoted from Pinzap:

Were any of these games made with collectors in mind back in the day? Or were they all made solely to route and make someone money?

They made 600 Black Knight LEs back in 1981

But I don't remember delivering any of them to homeowners.

Generally games would go to Professional Athletes or Musicians, but not too many went to collectors. It just was not a very large hobby back then.

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#54 16 days ago
Quoted from Gryszzz:

You make it look so easy, but nobody else's work looks like this. Amazing.
Shirley I can't be the only one wondering what yer listenin to while you work?
My guess on this one--Bad Brains.

I am originally from Richmond VA and I have a love for the early D.C. punk days so you were close.
I have rediscovered Avail this week and always looking for something new or something I forgot about.
New is getting really tough the older I get.

#55 16 days ago
Quoted from BobLangelius:

Chris,
A couple of questions:
Will you replace bulb sockets?
What about switches. You probably don't need to replace on this machine, but what do you do on a machine that has been out in the world? Is there a way to straighten and refresh the old switches.
Tia,
Bob

No I will not replace the sockets or switches on this one unless there is an issue. It has a lot of grouped sockets on a continuous bar like assembly so that makes it less ideal to do.

Switches can easily be straightened polished gapped and contacts cleaned.
I will make sure to detail that for you when it comes up.

#56 15 days ago

Chris,
Can't wait to see how this finishes up.

Thanks for sharing the process with us.

Bob

#57 15 days ago

Cabinet is now fully dry.
Grain and most imperfections are still present by design.
Gloss level is on par with what it was originally.

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#58 15 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

All inserts are glued and leveled.

Can you elaborate on your method for leveling them?

#59 15 days ago

Great work - very interesting to follow. Thanks for taking the time to share your process. I noticed you used a clear adhesion promoter first on both the playfield and the cabinet. Was it the same product for both? What do you use?

#60 15 days ago

Nice work, but wait, a Black Knight CIB? those still exists?

#61 13 days ago

Playfield set is now being sanded as level as possible and I will be working towards filling the insert gaps and getting a good level before I repaint the insert borders

The only inserts I am concerned about sanding through on would be the ones with actual art or text. The others that just have black borders alone are more easily repainted when and where needed.

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#62 13 days ago

Now I can start working the gaps.
No amount of clear can fill some of these without several applications so I will handle it a different way.
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The inserts are surface wiped with filler then while the filler is somewhat but not fully hardened it is skillfully and carefully shaved down with a razor blade
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#63 13 days ago

Since the inserts themselves are not perfectly flat the next step is wiping the excess out of areas that are too low with a lightly dampened lacquer thinnner towel. Towel only not paper.
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Because of the previous clear application I can carefully do that without damaging the surface but it has to happen quickly and in the correct window for the materials
Waiting too long the filler is too hard. Going over the same areas repeatedly there is a risk of softening the clear do it is something I can do and sense but not fully explain.
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#64 13 days ago

That process is now complete and was done in a way where only black work will be required.
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#65 13 days ago

Playfield set is cleaned again after a light resanding to shore it up from the filler wipe.
The various deepest void are successfully filled. There will be minor cracks and missed spots still at this stage but the type of gaps that endless absorb and eat clear should be gone.
At this point I will do some rough basic black touch ups by hand and clear again.

Not quite ready to do the real detail work in terms of repaints yet because the inserts really need to be smooth and solid prior to that and this next coat of clear should help get there.

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#66 13 days ago

Black touch ups are being roughed in.

The lower portion of the main is done it is a bit tedious.

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#67 12 days ago

Black is roughed in on the insert borders and the playfields are ready to clear
Might look a little rough still right now but at this point I am still better off to under do it than to overdo it.
When it is time to really address the cosmetics and insert borders I will do so on my light box.

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#68 12 days ago

Playfield set cleared inserts much more level and sealed.
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There is one lone trouble spot and all things considered I am happy to have shrunk that down to just this single one moving forward. Should be easily handled from this point.
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#69 12 days ago

Thanks for taking the time to post - great pics and I love hearing how its' done by the master himself.

#70 12 days ago

The one insert is overfilled with clear at this stage to help close and finish leveling it.

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#71 12 days ago

Playfield set has dried overnight and I can better sense what is going to be needed to finish sealing up the insert borders
From what I can see all will close up once sanded with the exception of two.

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#72 12 days ago

While the window of cure is still open I can drop some clear in the two inserts that have developed gaps now that the materials are settling.
The first is not a surprise.
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The second is very minor.
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#73 12 days ago

I love your threads, amazing work. As always thanks for documenting for all of us to see the progress!

#74 12 days ago

A small amount of clear is mixed and dropped in the voids.

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#75 12 days ago

So glad this game is in your hands Chris.

#76 8 days ago

Playfield set has had plenty of time to settle and I am ready to sand then start perfecting the insert borders.

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#77 8 days ago

I machine sand pretty much everything because it provides a finer pattern than can be done manually. image (resized).jpg

What do I want?
I want the insert on the right to look like the one on the left then I know it is perfectly flush and ready to paint.
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Remember this guy?
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It is now in good order
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#78 8 days ago

All inserts on both the lower and upper playfields are level so I can finish scuffing them up.

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#79 8 days ago

Playfields are cleaned and can now be checked on my homemade light box.

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#80 8 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Playfields are cleaned and can now be checked on my homemade light box.

Do you plug yours in or save energy like Stern does it?

Just kidding. Laughing every time I have seen that Stern video.

#81 8 days ago

Without the light box the insert borders look great and you would easily think it is ready to clear for the final time.
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Once on the light box it tells a different story. My light box is super bright because in the past we didn't have LEDs and once that trend started it made the need to really thoroughly light and check insert borders necessary.
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#82 8 days ago

Details, it's all about the details... Love your work...

#83 8 days ago

Tools required
Speader to smooth stenciling material
Razor blade.
Don't bother asking what material I am using is. It is nothing special just a matte like version of frisket that can stand autobase.
Often I do not specify certain products or processes not because they are "secrets" just more because they rarely can be applied to most DIY projects without certain equipment,access or underlying skill sets. When that is the case it usually just leads to more questions than answers.

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#84 8 days ago

The first group is cut out.
This involves a looser cut out on some inserts since the borders extend well into the art.
In those cases I treat it like I did with the cabinet repaint and leave large opening for a gradual blow over fade in so it melts in there without hard lines.
These do not need to be perfect tracings or cuts in these areas it will mostly be dependent on the spraying technique

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#85 8 days ago

Upper masked. Much broader masking is required on that because of how the black in the art flows from certain inserts well into the surrounding areas.

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#86 8 days ago

Areas masked are blacked out.
It is actually a super dark gray or muted black for this so it looks more correct and flows into the original areas that were not exactly straight black either.

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#87 8 days ago

Before unmasking repaints are double checked on the light box.

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#88 8 days ago

I can now start unmasking.

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#89 8 days ago

Thank you for posting all of this awesome work you do, man when I hit the lottery I plan on keeping you busy for a long time! What am I thinking your already busy, well I will get in line.

#90 8 days ago

Main playfield unmasked. image (resized).jpg

Pretty happy with the borders all things considered I just did not expect to need to put this much effort into this particular game. image (resized).jpg

When you mask cut and spray this many inserts there will be an occasional blow throw or imperfect cut. image (resized).jpg

I am able to easily catch that now and reshape it through some artistic scraping with a razor blade
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I will check each insert and make these type of corrections where needed.

#91 8 days ago

All inserts look correct now.
Not perfect by design but correct which means there are minor variations in registration and shapes similar to what they looked like before they had to be removed. I feel like that is important on this restore given the owners request.
I am trying to highlight the same exact inserts used as previous examples.

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#92 7 days ago

Ready to clear for the final time I hope.

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#93 7 days ago

Final clear freshly applied.

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#94 7 days ago

Oh WOW, well done!

#95 4 days ago

Cabinet parts were tumbled and the cabinet is back at the other shop for reassembly.

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#96 4 days ago

New rails are being placed. Slight change to the flipper button colors I think the red and yellow makes more sense.

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#97 4 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

New rails are being placed. Slight change to the flipper button colors I think the red and yellow makes more sense.

Was there something wrong with the original rails?

#98 4 days ago
Quoted from zacaj:

Was there something wrong with the original rails?

Yes the original rails were really bent up at the nail locations.
They just did not use much care installing them.

#99 4 days ago

Do the tumbled parts need a protective coating or are they all stainless steel?

#100 3 days ago

Hi,
I have a question.
When you remove siderail (whatever the game), how do you remove properly the sticking tape on the siderail and on the cabinet?
Thanks

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