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Help with very low volume system 6

By Tomass

2 years ago


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#1 2 years ago

I am having an issue where all my sounds and speech are working but the volume is too low. Here is what I have done so far:
Recapped the ps and sound board.
New headers all around.
I eliminated the main pot as the source.
I eliminated the speaker as the issue.
I replaced the transistor that drives the dac

I am not sure what to test next honestly. I did check 2 pins on the dac per an old thread, but that didn't show an issue. Hoping someone can help.

#2 2 years ago

I am thinking it may be a sound ampliphier, but I do not know how to test one.

#4 2 years ago
Quoted from Cheddar:

I think if you touch the tab on the amp and you hear a loud hum it means the amp is good

Touch with my finger? Thanks

#7 2 years ago

Ok, so I get nothing when I do that. I think I see the input pin on the schematics, but how much voltage should I see there? Also, does it always how power or just in gameplay? Thanks for your help!!!

Quoted from Cheddar:

Yeah and I'd do it right when you turn it on so it isn't hot yet

Quoted from pins4u:

Not the tab because usually that is earth, but certainly the pins that solder to the PCB. One of them is the input and it should blurt a healthy noise to the speaker when touched.

#9 2 years ago
Quoted from pins4u:

It's a signal not a voltage as such applied to the input pin BUT you certainly should make sure the voltage is applied to the correct pin on the audio amplifier IC. Probably about 12 or 15V DC on pin 5 if this is the correct schematic for your machine? Yes, the amplifier is always powered when the machine is switched on.
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Thank you! Yes, that looks like the same schematic. I will double check though.

#10 2 years ago

Ok, so at pin 5 I am getting 10.75v is this close enough?

#13 2 years ago

I know the caps are correct value and polarity, but there was one listed as "low leaking". I put a ceramic cap in this spot after trying an electrolytic first. It was originally an electrolytic. I ordered a tda2002 and figured I would swap it out and see.
I also tried a second speaker to test that.

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#14 2 years ago

Well, I swapped out the tda2002 and still the same issue. I notice that I am not getting much wattage at all if I read the volts at the speaker. I did check all the resistors around that amp and they read good. I am kinda stumped again.
I know the data signal is good since I get all the sounds. I still get no loud hum if I touch the legs of the amp. All test points show proper voltage.

#16 2 years ago

Ok, so by swapping out my sound board from BK, I have full sound and speech. Now I know the issue is on the sound board itself. I am digging through the schematics to the best of my ability, but nothing pops out at me.

#18 2 years ago
Quoted from Cheddar:

can you swap the roms between boards? Use the known good board to test any swappable components of the bad board.

I did put the gorgar rom in it. The only other thing I could swap is the 6808. I will do that next and at least eliminate that. I don't think a pia would do that though, would it?

#19 2 years ago

I swapped that out with no change so the pia is good.

#20 2 years ago

I guess I can compare votages at certain components between the 2 boards and see if that shows anything.

#21 2 years ago

Can anyone tell me what this circle is?

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#23 2 years ago
Quoted from pins4u:

It's the voltage supply voltage point to the amplifier chip.
There are about 4 parts in this entire circuit. I would just replace them all.

Problem is I already replaced the caps and the amp. All those resistors read in spec. Not sure what else to replace.

#24 2 years ago

I am gonna swap out the ceramic caps next but for the 100v ceramic, I only have a film capacitor in that voltage. Hoping that is OK.

#25 2 years ago

Still the same issue. I notice that c12 and c14 have more voltage on the broken board. 1 4v compared to .69v. Not sure what to do next honestly.

#26 2 years ago

Replacing everything on the output, even the resistors that read fine. If I have input voltage and a clean output line, I should at least get a loud hum when touching legs, right?

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#28 2 years ago
Quoted from pins4u:

Those blue 1% resistors are stupidly difficult to read the values with the colour bands. Are you 100% certain they are the correct values, verified by a meter?

Yes! It is working now! I did test each resistor, but they are labeled on the paper. Not sure if it was a resistor or one of the new caps were bad, but I replaced them as well.

Thanks for your help, everyone!

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