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Help with afm flasher

By ninjabones

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago

Very close to finishing an afm play field swap. Got everything plugged back in (except for back glass lights). Everything seems to be running fine. However, one flasher isn't working. I swapped led's, checked all fuses and confirmed continuity from the lamp socket through the wires to the board connectors (red/white and blue/orange) but no joy. Any help troubleshooting appreciated

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#2 7 years ago

Bulb good ? Metal clips inside the socket that grab the bulb good ? Power at the socket ?

LTG : )

#3 7 years ago

Nothing at the socket. Swapped with led from working flasher. Checked continuity from each lead in the socket all the way to the connector at the board. Upon further inspection, mothership cockpit flasher also out, although I haven't had a chance to swap that led to rule out whether it's just a bad led.

#4 7 years ago

Hey Ninja
One way to isolate a board problem from a wiring/connector/socket problem/playfield problem is to put an alligator clip w/lead on the metal tab of TIP 102 Transistor Q 14 (associated with Blu-Org). (Sol/Flasher Table P 2-46 in the AFM manual)
With power on, momentarily touch the wire to ground (side rail, .....) Don't get shocked by touching any bare wires or ground.
If the flasher lights, then wiring, power to flasher, connectors, even the trace on the driver board to Q 14 is OK. This would further indicate a problem with the TIP 102 or it's pre-driver or other board problems.
If the flasher does not light, there is a wiring, connector, socket, lamp, power to flasher, or other playfield ........ problem.
Do not run this test on the high power TIP36C transistors.
Wally

#5 7 years ago

Did I miss it somewhere that you tested the socket for voltage? I see testing for continuity. Led flashers are very , very finicky. Start with the socket before delving into anything else. If you have voltage, play with the led bulb. Rotate it 180 degrees and reinstall it.

#6 7 years ago

Thanks for the input guys. It'll be a few days before I'm able to try those suggestions. I'll post results then.Thanks

#7 7 years ago

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#8 7 years ago

nice! I get it.

#9 7 years ago

Every time my flashers have gone out it turned out to be the socket. I took the sockets from old ramps I had laying around . I would remove the rivets and install the socket to the ramp inside the machine giving me the issue. The sockets seem very temperamental. Actually this happened on my AFM but the socket location I replaced was on the right ramp.

#10 7 years ago
Quoted from wiggy07:

The sockets seem very temperamental.

Pinball Life sells new ones. No problems for 20 years again.

LTG : )

#11 7 years ago

Thanks for the input.. I have some time this weekend to do some more troubleshooting.

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