I think atleast 10k. Maybe more. The remake didn't kill the nice originals MM as much as they killed the original AFMs and MBs. The big display is killer in the new AFM and MB but that didn't happen for MM so as fas as I'm concerned I would rather have an original MM with a color DMD then a MM remake with color. Theres just not enough good stuff in the MM remake to make me want one over an original.