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RESOLVED! Help Needed - Twilight Zone is dead


By gac

8 months ago



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#1 8 months ago

Help! Odd thing happened today. I turn on my TZ today to change the time and I get nothing. No lights come on, clock doesn't move...nothing. I can hear a faint ticking sound coming from the back box. I haven't opened it yet as I have to move the machine to get at it. This is definitely a new issue with no warning. Nothing should have come loose as the machine hasn't been moved in years. Any thoughts? Is this a thermistor issue? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks all.

#2 8 months ago

Ya smell anything?

#3 8 months ago
Quoted from motorbreth77:

Ya smell anything?

No... nothing.

#4 8 months ago

I’d start with just working the connectors on the boards and the ribbons. It could just be a bad connection.

#5 8 months ago

Check easiest first. outlet, plug, fuse in cab

#6 8 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Check easiest first. outlet, plug, fuse in cab

Thanks. It shouldn't be the outlet or plug as other game on outlet is fine. It's plugged in and I'm hearing ticking sound in back box when switched on. There is power coming from the service outlet. Maybe the fuse. Will have to check. Hopefully I have one proper size on hand if that's it.

#7 8 months ago
Quoted from Niterider:

I’d start with just working the connectors on the boards and the ribbons. It could just be a bad connection.

Thanks. Will check out after I check service box fuse.

#8 8 months ago

Seems likely you do have power to the backbox then - I'd move on to checking the 5V and seeing if the CPU is running. Start here: https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC#Power-On_LEDs_and_Sound_Tones_.28Bongs.29

#9 8 months ago
Quoted from andre060:

Seems likely you do have power to the backbox then - I'd move on to checking the 5V and seeing if the CPU is running. Start here: https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC#Power-On_LEDs_and_Sound_Tones_.28Bongs.29

Not necessarily....I have seen similar before where it was the power cord at fault. Check both ends of that power cord very thoroughly. A lose connection can cause the clicking. Also check the main power fuse holder. The click can be a relay momentarily getting enough juice to energize, or arcing in a connection. Start simple first.

#10 8 months ago
Quoted from gac:

Maybe the fuse. Will have to check. Hopefully I have one proper size on hand if that's it.

Instead of ordering a fuse from a pinball store online you can buy slow blowing fuses at Home Depot, but you’ll pay twice as much as you would at Pinball life for example

#11 8 months ago

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I have not had a free second to dig into this yet. Just thinking out loud... I wouldn't think it is the fuse in the service box as there is definitely power going to the back box as I can hear a quiet hum and the "ticking'" sound coming from it. I'm thinking if it were that fuse, I would have no power going to the backbox. Is my thinking correct?

#12 8 months ago

I had an issue where the jumper plug in the service box had a bad jumper wire connection. The machine would not turn on, wiggled them around and she turned on. Someones bad crimp job.

At the test points was there any voltages.

#13 8 months ago
Quoted from bssbllr:

I had an issue where the jumper plug in the service box had a bad jumper wire connection. The machine would not turn on, wiggled them around and she turned on. Someones bad crimp job.

At the test points was there any voltages.

Haven't had a chance to get in there. Not very good with a multimeter either.

#14 8 months ago

Set dmm to voltage and put black lead on ground and red lead to test points. On the driver board look for tp1 or tp2 and so on the values actually say it on the board 5v or 18v. Here is a list of the numbers and values.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/voltages-on-test-points-of-wpc-power-driver-board

#15 8 months ago

Well, I finally was able to get at my TZ. Before turning it on to open it up and see what leds were on or not on when I switched the power on, I simply reseated every cable and connector I could see. Turned the machine on and presto! She fired right up and appears perfectly fine. Has to be a connection that loosened up over the many years of play.

Thankfully, it ended up being nothing really. I would like to thank all of you that offered suggestions and advice. Other then reseating the cable/connectors I thankfully didn't need to try the other suggestions. It is all good information to have, however, if I do need it in the future. Hopefully I won't! Pinside is such a great resource. Thanks again everyone.

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