FWIW: A link to the scene.
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Larry: "A marble machine in a jail."
Moe: "That's where they belong."
Hmmmmm... Commentary on gambling? Pun on "marbleheads?"
Quoted from spfxted:Whoa!...a real mystery here! I was going to look through all the usual Pinball Books tonight. Ya saved me the trouble!
On the other hand, it's a good reason to look through all the usual pinball books tonight!
Quoted from spfxted:Good point!
Anyway, it certainly seemed like an elaborate backglass. I guess I couldn't put it past Hollywood to create something for the short, but ...
Quoted from spfxted:...the WHOLE machine??
I don't know anything about cabinet creation, but it seems to me that the cabinet is very generic. There's no story on it. Just a bunch of lines in a sorta-deco style. So, I could definitely see a woodworking shop putting something together like that pretty easily. As for the play-field and the backglass? Those look like things that would be easier to get out of a real game...
Quoted from SaminVA:Keeneys RED HOT 1940 1 player
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4025&picno=10938
http://mirror2.ipdb.org/images/4025/image-1.jpg
Fantastic! This has gotten to be quite an interesting topic.
Does the name Keeney's provide any clues to the first game? Who is Keeney's? (Heading to Google now.)
Quoted from KenLayton:Now it could be possible that Columbia Pictures may have used another Keeney made machine in the other Stooge short. Although in the playfield shot it looked like a Bally decal on the wood.
Yeah, it's pretty clear that's a Bally logo in the upper right.
However, perhaps it's important that the ball doesn't interact with the play field. The ball never hits anything to cause a reaction on the upper box. On Curly's second plunge, the box reacts as if Curly broke it. The lights go on and off seemingly random. And the ball is shot out and hits Curly.
It's possible that the back box and the play field aren't the same machine. Is it too much of a stretch to place a Keeney glass in a Bally box and rig the lights to produce nonsense unrelated to actual play? Is this something a prop designer in 1941 could do?
I was looking through stuff on IPDB and couldn't find Bally produced games in 1942 or 1943. Did Bally not release any games during the war?
Quoted from tcv:It's possible that the back box and the play field aren't the same machine.
Nah. This is wrong. The play field shows the same icons (hats, clovers, award medals, stars) that are on the back glass!
Quoted from rennervision:But are the playfield/back box shots from the same machine as we see the Stooges approach?
This is a good point.
Quoted from PinFun:So, based on what we have so far, it's a Bally made prior to 1942. Knowing Columbia, they would of bought a used machine. Using the "Pirates" short as an example, the short was filmed in 1946 and they used a '41 Keeney. Keep trying guys, the answer is out there!
It's pretty clearly an earlier machine than '41 or '42. Looking at a number of flyers on IPDB, you can see that Bally was using the more well-known (albeit more loosely drawn) Bally script logo by 1941.
The sad part, at least from an Internet Sleuthing perspective, is that there just aren't that many photographs of 193x-1941 Bally machines. There are many, many listed in various places, but not many photos.
Maybe this is the kind of stuff that's collected in books?
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