I'm going to grab a Rfm tomorrow, deep rulesets are great but fun is the number one goal. Look at medieval madness, keep destroying castles by hitting the same area. By adding an awesome toy like the castle with the moat bridge and gate and lighting and side objectives to compliment it the "repetition" is extremely fun and satisfying while remaining accessible to newcomers. I really admire the technology and innovation in the p2k machines and really look forward to playing it. I'll let you know what I think after tomorrow....