(Topic ID: 56838)

Help me choose LAH, JD or The Shadow


By Thoomaso

6 years ago



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  • Latest reply 6 years ago by Mato
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“Which game is best?”

  • LAH 7 votes
    11%
  • JD 9 votes
    15%
  • The Shadow 45 votes
    74%

(61 votes by 0 Pinsiders)

#1 6 years ago

As the post says my next game is probably going to be one of these three games.
Advice please!

#2 6 years ago

Shadow problem solved.

#3 6 years ago

Dredd, rules are simple, but the shots are tough, awesome voice acting although the music gets repetitive if you are having an all out pinorgy day. Bonus is Supergame, if you want to work on your multiball skills and work on ball control its a must have. I scored mine for $1000, and wouldn't sell it for 5 times that.
My 3 year old is in love with Supergame, he won't play a regular game anymore since he found that.

#4 6 years ago

I have not played shadow, but I have owned Judge Dredd and LAH. I got bored with LAH pretty quickly but would not sell my Judge Dredd.

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#5 6 years ago

Always buy based on BRAND never forget that and you will go far.

LAH it is.

#6 6 years ago

If you are purchasing based on BRAND, then Bally/Williams/Midway always win, hands down. If you are buying based on your budget get the game you can afford. If you are buying based on longevity, buy the "hardest" game you can find. If you are buying just to buy, then buy whatever game speaks to you the most. This is a very subjective hobby, everyone and their brother has an opinion on everything from design, to rules, to re-playability, to toys. Bottom line, buy the machine you like best at this time. You can always sell or trade up at a later date.
IMHO...

#7 6 years ago
Quoted from Jamesiewaimsy:

Always buy based on BRAND never forget that and you will go far.
LAH it is.

This is a really weird post. Are you saying Data East is the superior pinball manufacturer across the board?

#8 6 years ago

LAH, I have owned this game for 15 years. Such a great game, lots of modes and the Crane is cool. Game has magnets that act just like Addams family. It is a fun game, very easy understand the rules and can be picked up at a great price.

#9 6 years ago

Shadow. JD is awful and I don't recall liking LAH either but I'm biased towards WMS games of that era (as most people are).

#11 6 years ago

Shadow, awesome rule set and fasty fast bumper less flow. Best genuine mini playfield going both in terms of theme integration and actual playability. Are these three hypothetical examples or actual pins where condition is going to be an issue? If the latter check the sanctum area as this is likely to be mangled.

Was my first pin and just as my first it was well worn in and not cosmetically unblemished but boy oh boy wah wee did it play like a trooper.

#12 6 years ago

The Shadow is a top 20 classic that's only been held back by the movie license (though it's really well done, and ultimately comes down to just the backglass getting hate). JD and LAH are bang-for-buck pins. I wouldn't put them on the same level personally. Poll results seem to agree.

#13 6 years ago

Shadow. No contest. I enjoy both JD and LAH, but Shadow is superior to them in almost every way.

#14 6 years ago

I have owned (and sold) all three titles.

LAH - best "bang for the buck". 6 ball multiball, 3 sub-playfield magnets, TONS of "modes" to complete before wizzard mode. This one was made to compete with Addams Family (in terms of tech). The backglass is very ugly, but I have seen some nice alternative ones. Really can't go wrong if the price is right ($1500 or under is good on this one).

Judge Dredd - another excellent choice. Supergame (as mentioned by others) is a blast. If you like non-stop action, dredd is the way to go. There are no pop bumpers, and only one scoop, which means just about every shot flows to the next. Its a FAST game, I felt the modes left a bit to be desired. Expect to pay about $1800+ for a nice condition one. Plastic condition and cabinet fade are the biggest things to look for. Dredd should be GREEN on his gloves, that color often fades. Also, the logo should be deep red, not orange/white as seen on most faded cabs.

Shadow - probably the best of these three, also the most expensive by a long shot. The battlefield upper playfield is a blast to play - its like real-life brick attack. There are a lot of satisfying shots, and the player controlled ramp diverters add an interesting element to the game. I found the game modes to be slightly bland. The backglass is terrible, have seen a few decent alternative ones. If you go for shadow, make sure the 4x rings, 3x mongols and 2x Phurba's are present. If they are broken or missing, you will be hard-pressed to find replacements. Added bonus- CPR JUST redid the plastics for this game. Expect to pay $2500++

Budget is everything. If you can swing the money, go for Shadow. If you can't, go for LAH. If this is your first/only machine, go for Shadow or LAH. If you have other machines (depending on the titles), go for Dredd. I find Dredd compliments other games very well (especially DMD wide body games).

Hope that helps!

#15 6 years ago
Quoted from cpsystem3:

LAH - best "bang for the buck". 6 ball multiball, 3 sub-playfield magnets, TONS of "modes" to complete before wizzard mode. This one was made to compete with Addams Family (in terms of tech). The backglass is very ugly, but I have seen some nice alternative ones. Really can't go wrong if the price is right ($1500 or under is good on this one).

Judge Dredd - another excellent choice. Supergame (as mentioned by others) is a blast. If you like non-stop action, dredd is the way to go. There are no pop bumpers, and only one scoop, which means just about every shot flows to the next. Its a FAST game, I felt the modes left a bit to be desired. Expect to pay about $1800+ for a nice condition one. Plastic condition and cabinet fade are the biggest things to look for. Dredd should be GREEN on his gloves, that color often fades. Also, the logo should be deep red, not orange/white as seen on most faded cabs.

Shadow - probably the best of these three, also the most expensive by a long shot. The battlefield upper playfield is a blast to play - its like real-life brick attack. There are a lot of satisfying shots, and the player controlled ramp diverters add an interesting element to the game. I found the game modes to be slightly bland. The backglass is terrible, have seen a few decent alternative ones. If you go for Shadow, make sure the 4x rings, 3x mongols and 2x Phurba's are present. If they are broken or missing, you will be hard-pressed to find replacements. Added bonus- CPR JUST redid the plastics for this game. Expect to pay $2500++

That's a great breakdown.

#16 6 years ago

I gotta go with Dredd on this one. This game has way more to offer than the other two,
including Supergame- not available on any other machine.

#17 6 years ago

Shadow for sure. That is one cool game. Love the mini playfield. Switching the knife blades really gets you into the game and can be very challenging.

#18 6 years ago

Brock (aka pinballcustoms) makes repro mongols and phurbas if you are missing them.

#19 6 years ago

I currently have a LAH and JD (2nd JD) and owned a Shadow for about 6 months in the past. You can't go wrong with any of these games. What game you should choose comes down to what theme you'll like having around the most, as all have a bunch to offer in gameplay. I voted for JD, as I've owned it the longest of the 3 and can't see myself parting with it again.

JD has the most unique layout/shots of the 3. The shots exclusive/easiest made from the upper right flipper are a blast and make the game feel huge. While it can feel a little slow compared to standard (non-widebody) pins, it is still pretty fast. I really like the central location of the drop targets and their role in starting multiball.Best art package of the three games by a mile. One of the few games where the PF, translite and cabinet are all equally well done. Topper is awesome and ties it all together.

LAH is still brand new to me, so I can't comment too much on what it has to offer. Just listing the toys/mechanics on the game sells it, though. 3 huge magnets, the crane, a row of drop targets, 3 scoops, 2 captive balls, return plunger (can't remember commonly used name. Same as raptor kick shot in JP). It is a truly packed playfield in the best way possible. The modes in the game (and there are a ton of them) make great use of every shot/toy on the PF. Feels complete and well thought out. Easily one of the best games by Data East or Sega. I am a huge Schwarzenegger fan, so the art package doesn't bother me as much as it does most people, but the translite to the game is truly hideous. The cabinet art is mediocre. PF art is busy but really detailed, I wish the whole game was done in it's style.

The Shadow's player-controlled diverters and awesome mini-playfield are what makes or breaks the game. I really loved both and found it an awesome game and regret selling it. A vicious game and the most difficult of the 3. No pop bumpers and a really fast layout means you have very little breathing room. Unique theme that you'll either love or hate. Ugly translite, great cabinet. PF art reminds me of BSD's, middle of the road overall.

#20 6 years ago

well if JD and shadow are the same price..I'd pick Shadow but if the JD is anywhere between 700-1000 bucks cheaper than it's JD for sure....

#21 6 years ago

My picks would be The Shadow or LAH. I'm actually pretty happy that LAH is ahead of JD! Maybe it'll turn into a $2400 game soon haha.

Anyway, I own LAH and Shadow both and enjoy them both for different reasons. I've had a lot of plays on JD. To me, it just feels a little clunky. LAH can feel clunky at first, but once you start seeing how the game works with the multiple modes, etc., it becomes awesome. Shadow is just a really great players game. I've only had mine for a short time, but so far am really loving it and becoming more familiar with the increasingly deep rule set that you don't gather it has first.

#22 6 years ago

Shadow is by far the only choice here, all things being equal. Just a fantastic game. Deep enough to be very challenging, but not too deep where you lose track of everything you are supposed to be doing.

#23 6 years ago
Quoted from sleethering:

This is a really weird post. Are you saying Data East is the superior pinball manufacturer across the board?

I look at what Data East placed on the market and they are all hits well a large % anyway.

I never feel they cheated on a game just to save a few bucks like I do with some Williams games.

#24 6 years ago

JD for sure!

#25 6 years ago

Thanks for the advice all. The price on the shadow is actually about the same as the other two games here in sweden recently. Around 1800 dollars. So i think i will look around for the Shadow!

#26 6 years ago

wow shadow must be really good I'm going to check it out on youtube

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