Erie, PA
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:and no V cut behind the drop targets.
I'm curious what are you gong to do in this case, or is the cutout not required?
(Topic ID: 229439)
Quoted from kickthefog:I'm curious what are you gong to do in this case, or is the cutout not required?
I haven't gotten to the point where I know just yet. Just glancing at things, it doesn't appear that the cutout is needed.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:I haven't gotten to the point where I know just yet. Just glancing at things, it doesn't appear that the cutout is needed.
That's a relief! I was a bit worried. I know if I had to somehow cut that out, I'd screw it up for sure. 
May the wind continue to be at your back! 
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:Lots of wire guides. I’ll drill a 3/32” hole for these. My spacer guide is 3 paint stir sticks and a plastic ruler.
[quoted image]
kicking it old school. I like that, bryan!
I'm assuming that puts the center of the ball guide at the center of the ball in terms of relative height
Quoted from j_m_:I'm assuming that puts the center of the ball guide at the center of the ball in terms of relative height
Yes, sir, it does. This isn't rocket science. Stir sticks and plastic ruler work just fine.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:The new playfield has recessed holes for the 4 T-nuts and no V cut behind the drop targets. I wonder how many versions of these were made?
[quoted image][quoted image]
Looking at pics on ipdb and here
http://www.hsapinball.com/HSA_PINBALL/hsa082114hh.html#73
it would appear that the V notch behind the upper do targets was not required.
Quoted from j_m_:kicking it old school
He can't help but kick it old school, 
Following by the way. Wish my F-14 had those dimples!!!!!
Quoted from woz:What ultrasonic cleaner are you using bryan_kelly ?
I'm going to be doing a Black Hole playfield swap soon so will be watching this thread closely. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Interested in this, I am trying to figure out if I can swing the funds to buy the BH playfields myself.
Quoted from woz:Looking at pics on ipdb and here
http://www.hsapinball.com/HSA_PINBALL/hsa082114hh.html#73
it would appear that the V notch behind the upper do targets was not required.
Turns out the lower playfield has a 5 target bank that has a switch mounted in the back, which requires the notch. The upper playfield has a 4 target bank with no switch.
image (resized).jpgQuoted from heni1977:He can't help but kick it old school,
Following by the way. Wish my F-14 had those dimples!!!!!
yeah, with bryan I think they just called it "school" and all of the kids were in a single room with one teacher for grades 1-12
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:Bare wire stapled back in. I set the regulator at 75 psi. With higher settings, you stand the risk of cutting the wire. Don’t ask me how I know this. I said DON’T ASK!
[quoted image][quoted image]
Looks like it can mess up the clear on the other side too - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-ultimate-playfield-restoration/page/124#post-4693717
Quoted from lb1:Looks like it can mess up the clear on the other side too - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-ultimate-playfield-restoration/page/124#post-4693717
I saw that. I've done a lot of stapling on the underside of playfields and have never had this happen. Lesson learned from someone else....only use enough pressure to set the staples. 75 psi works for me.
Quoted from Mombo-number-5:Just curious, are you doing this for a guy named Craig?
Nope.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:The apron is really nice. I used nothing but water to clean it. I think most anything else will effect the ink.
[quoted image][quoted image]
Does look great. I would add that 70s Gottlieb aprons can sometimes be prone to ink/graphics damage even with water. I always test a small area with just a q-tip before proceeding further. System 80 games may be more durable. Following your thread as these games use lots of Gottlieb parts common in the 70s. Great work. Thanks for documenting this for us.
Sana'a
Looking great!
I always give all those slotted screws back to the owner, and change everything over to slip-free Phillips head screws.
Makes the re-pop go 3x faster, and eliminates the chance of sliding out of the slot and damaging something valuable.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:Having never done a HH, I'll be taking a ton of pics.
Your pics are nicely lit (and focused), you should consider putting the 100 best tear down pics on the HH Pinside Shopout Galery:
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/haunted-house/gallery/shopout
Quoted from vid1900:Looking great!
I always give all those slotted screws back to the owner, and change everything over to slip-free Phillips head screws.
Makes the re-pop go 3x faster, and eliminates the chance of sliding out of the slot and damaging something valuable.
It would be a lot easier to use different hardware, but I don't work that way. I prefer to use the hardware that came with the game....cause that's what came with the game. I want the owner to open the game up and have it look just like it did from the factory.
Quoted from vid1900:Your pics are nicely lit (and focused), you should consider putting the 100 best tear down pics on the HH Pinside Shopout Galery:
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/haunted-house/gallery/shopout
I'll look into that when I'm all done.
Quoted from Zablon:Something I wasn't clear on, are the guide posts holes already there or did you have to find the place and drill them yourself?
The holes are there. You'll want to drill them out just a tad, depending on the diameter of the guide.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:It would be a lot easier to use different hardware, but I don't work that way. I prefer to use the hardware that came with the game....cause that's what came with the game. I want the owner to open the game up and have it look just like it did from the factory.
I hear ya.
I always figure that no one is going to think that my restored **sheet of glass** playfield is anything near original, so using better fasteners is just one more improvement.
(and unlike the playfield, screws are 100% reversible)
Carry on with the good work!
Muskoka, ON
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:Well. That didn’t go well.
[quoted image]
whose product was that ?
Quoted from fast_in_muskoka:whose product was that ?
No idea who made it but it came from BAA. I'll contact Rick and have him send me another. I rarely ever have issues with his stuff, but when I have in the past, he always takes care of things.
Quoted from stashyboy:Looks awesome! Is the large light shield at the left end of drops cracked? Bummer if so...
It is. It's the only one cracked. At least it's on the lower playfield.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:No idea who made it but it came from BAA. I'll contact Rick and have him send me another. I rarely ever have issues with his stuff, but when I have in the past, he always takes care of things.
looking through e-mails to see where this one came from ( I think it came from CPR ) :
IMG_1814 (resized).jpg
I recall reading a few posts months ago where others had the same problem with the spiderweb print lifting off when they removed the protective coating. It's possible that the whole run may be like that.
Quoted from jibmums:I recall reading a few posts months ago where others had the same problem with the spiderweb print lifting off when they removed the protective coating. It's possible that the whole run may be like that.
Let's hope not. I've requested a new one and have asked them to remove the coating before sending. I'll see what happens.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:I can not lie. All the star posts are on and I have 2 longer ones I have no idea where they go. Of course I didn’t notice them when they were take off. I’ll find out where they go at some point. If anyone happens to know where these go, please let me know.
[quoted image]
Happens to me all the time.
Reply
Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.
Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!
Donate to PinsideGreat to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!
