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Haunted House Club: The Beautiful Beast

By davebart5

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#936 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Honored to be part of the haunted house club! Played the machine before I bought it it played great. Remove the head for moving purposes, get it home set it up and boom! It works fine except it won't play a game. I spent a week trying to figure it out finally I Hire a tech who is coming to fix it. I'm guessing a easy fix which honestly make me more pissed how I can't figure it out. Anyway this machine is in excellent condition with almost all new coils and serviced boards. Hopefully I can get it working

2 weeks later

#940 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Someone come and fix my haunted house I'll pay you $$$$$ it's driving me crazy!!!

#942 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from gdonovan:
If I was not up to my eyeballs in projects right now I'd help! Whats going on?

So I played this at the sellers house and it worked fine. I removed the head to transport it. I get it home reconnect everything. It turns on all lights work and goes into attract mode coins up but when I push start to start a game it just takes a credit away and won't start a game? I've checked the connectors and tried everything I can think of. I'm thinking it's a connection or the slam switch? Idk I'm out of ideas

#944 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
The slam switch should be closed on old Gottliebs. Tone it out with your Multimeter and see if it really is closed. The problem child is usually the one on the door. Jumper it if you have to. Also make sure there is a ball in the ball trough.

I was thinking of buying a new cpu for free play and it would take away the slam switch all together

#948 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
It will boot but the displays usually light up with all ones or zeros. Another likely problem is worn out connectors on the cable running between the MPU and the driver board. Those pins are hard to get these days (very obsolete).

When it first boots on the displays come on Immediately no five second. Delay and they're all, zeros

#950 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
Jumper the slam switch on the door to the closed position and repeat the power on test. Does it act different? How are the pins on your cable running between the MPU and driver board? You might need to replace / repair that cable. PM me if you want a new one, I still have NOS parts to make those. Do you know how to clean the edge connectors on the board? The best way is very old school. Take the board out and use an old rectangular rubber pencil eraser on the edge connectors until they are shinny. Clean the area with alcohol and reassemble. Do not sand them. A lot of people do and it is just plain wrong. Report back your findings. Don’t worry, we’ll help you get it sorted out.

Thank you! I'll try that and report back

#951 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from jetmechinnc:
I hope you can figure it out. Dumb question, but are there credits on the game? I’m new as well to the solid state Gottlieb world, but I’ve read the 1980s games don’t have free play unless you jumper wires. Might just need to put in a quarter?

To coin up I have to go inside the coin door and hit the coin switch. It coins up credits but won't start a game. When I push the start button it just takes a credit away.

#952 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
Jumper the slam switch on the door to the closed position and repeat the power on test. Does it act different? How are the pins on your cable running between the MPU and driver board? You might need to replace / repair that cable. PM me if you want a new one, I still have NOS parts to make those. Do you know how to clean the edge connectors on the board? The best way is very old school. Take the board out and use an old rectangular rubber pencil eraser on the edge connectors until they are shinny. Clean the area with alcohol and reassemble. Do not sand them. A lot of people do and it is just plain wrong. Report back your findings. Don’t worry, we’ll help you get it sorted out.

I did the slam switch closed, cleaned the connectors on the boards and still the same thing, no change.

#955 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
The door slam switch should be closed. The other problem switch is at the base of the main playfield by the coin door. That one should be open. Those two combined with the trough switch ( should be closed when the ball is sitting on it) are the usual suspects.
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I'm going to check those switches and try the swap of the boards. I'll report back

#957 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
The door slam switch should be closed. The other problem switch is at the base of the main playfield by the coin door. That one should be open. Those two combined with the trough switch ( should be closed when the ball is sitting on it) are the usual suspects.
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So, I cleaned all the connectors on the boards with a eraser and alcohol, adjusted the switches on the coin door and ball trough. I took a few shots of the two connectors that I felt were a little loose. A3-j5 on the driver board and j4. Oh I also swaped out my driver on my Mars and it didn't make a difference. One side note.. When I turn the game on the displays come on right away full zeros. The game will stay like this and not do anything. I push start nothing happens. Once I open the coin door nothing happens until I shut the coin door hard. Then the game clicks and goes into attract mode. If I then hit the start button it just makes a sound from the game and takes a credit away

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#958 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Jasenwm:
So, I cleaned all the connectors on the boards with a eraser and alcohol, adjusted the switches on the coin door and ball trough. I took a few shots of the two connectors that I felt were a little loose. A3-j5 on the driver board and j4. Oh I also swaped out my driver on my Mars and it didn't make a difference. One side note.. When I turn the game on the displays come on right away full zeros. The game will stay like this and not do anything. I push start nothing happens. Once I open the coin door nothing happens until I shut the coin door hard. Then the game clicks and goes into attract mode. If I then hit the start button it just makes a sound from the game and takes a credit away [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

One. Pic is. Of the ball trough twice my bad

#961 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
Your first photo showing the ball trough is very wrong. That should be closed with a ball sitting on it. Yours is open. That might be your problem. Adjust that and see if it fixes things.
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I was thinking that about the ball trough. I closed it with my finger and it didn't change anything? The mpu is new no damage. I'm going to repin the connectors like you suggested and see what happens

#964 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
The game needs to see this switch closed to start a game. It is a must fix.

So I adjusted the ball switch and repinned the main connectors and went and up graded to a ni wumpf new cpu. Now when I turn it on and attempt to start a game the ball is kicked out to the lane like normal but then the display reads a error message? It says BAD ONE on the display? I'm not sure what that means?

#966 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
Switching to a aftermarket board actually compounds the problem for me. I am OEM Gottlieb guy. Sorry, you're going to need to contact Ni-wumpf to find out what that error means. Report back what you find out and we'll start running down the next steps.

I emailed the company and asked what that messege ment. This is the reply I received from them.

''Normally that messege is indicating that the Slam switch has been detected on the game. It will come up at game start,because it was ignoring the switch until then. Let's start with looking at the Slam circuity for the game, on the front door, and the ball roll tilt.''

I emailed back telling him more about the issue but I'm confused why the Slam switch is still an issue because I bought this board because it states the board will disable and ignore the slam switch common issues?

#968 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from gdonovan:
Make sure you keep the old board, odds are nothing wrong with it.
I might be free this weekend if you need it looked at for a few bucks, live down by the casinos.

I'll gladly pay you to fix this . I've had this machine for three weeks and have not been to play it once.

#971 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
Ok, that makes sense. Your door slam switch is open. It usually is the slam switch. I know you said you checked it but we need to revisit that. Get a couple alligator clips and solder them onto a wire. With power off put one clip on each of the terminals of the slam switch and turn the game back on. Does the error go away? If not, the next place to look is at the wire harness by the hinge of the coin door. It is likely you have a broken wire and that wire is one of the two going to your slam switch. Report back your findings. By the way, does the game play yet with he new board?[quoted image]

The diffrence with the new board is when I attempt to play a game the machine kicks the ball out to the shooting lane like normal. After then I get the bad one error. With the original board the game would take a credit away when you attempt to play a game that's it. So we are getting closer. I'll try what you suggested.

#972 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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8y 42,900 218 17 10

Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
The next thing we are going to look at is this cable. The pins are always shot on this and very obsolete. Is yours still the original with original pins?
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I think it is the original but someone did the ground mod on it

#973 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Waterbury, CT

8y 42,900 218 17 10

Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
Ok, that makes sense. Your door slam switch is open. It usually is the slam switch. I know you said you checked it but we need to revisit that. Get a couple alligator clips and solder them onto a wire. With power off put one clip on each of the terminals of the slam switch and turn the game back on. Does the error go away? If not, the next place to look is at the wire harness by the hinge of the coin door. It is likely you have a broken wire and that wire is one of the two going to your slam switch. Report back your findings. By the way, does the game play yet with he new board?[quoted image]

With this new CPU it says in the discription one of the features is it ignores the slam switch error. If it is bypassing that wouldn't it take the slam switch out of play?

#975 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
It does take it out of play but still detects it as being a problem. It looks like it needs repaired for the error to go away. Do you have a source for the pins that the double sided edge connectors take? They are different than the other edge connector on the game. I can make you one with all NOS parts but it isn’t going to be cheap I’m afraid. Your looking at $95 shipped. I only have few hundred pins left and each cable takes around 70 to make. Also, Do you know for a fact your driver board is good? Were you able to test it in your other game?

The game worked fine when I played at the sellers house, no I haven't tested the driver board. Yeah I'm in for the new harness let me know.

#980 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
Ok, this is good news. We are getting closer. It is possible a board failed during the move but I think the mostly likely problem is the pins after the slam switch gets sorted. Did you remove the head for transport? If so, it is very likely the problem pin(s) is in one of the connectors removed to move the game.

Yeah I had to remove the head when I transported it

#983 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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8y 42,900 218 17 10

So we're SO close!! I adjusted the slam switch so it stayed closed and before I did anything else I wanted to see if that did anything. I turned the game and it powers up, I press start it kicks the ball out like it was doing but this time everything actually works on the playfield. Bumpers kick the ball all the normal functions except no sound? I let the ball drain and start another game. I was able to start three games until I got the BAD ONE code again and the game went back to not doing anything.

2 months later

#1018 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Buy my haunted house or fix it. It has no sound. I'll pay you handsomely

#1021 3 years ago

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Jasenwm

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Quoted from Robotworkshop:
Do you need your sound card repaired? I've fixed a few of them.

I'm not sure. At this point I honestly love this machine but it been one thing after another, it is a system 80 so reliability is not its stong point. I'm looking to sell

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