I think he got a few other things right, too.

And that's saying something when you have 96 machines. Whaaaaaaaaat???

Oh, O-D...what happened to the dog with the cigar avatar? I'm so depressed...

And I think the LCD is great - it's the first game that's interesting to watch when it's not your turn. The LCD isn't to see what's happening when you're playing - it's to see what was happening when you were playing when you're NOT playing.

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! It's Taylor vs. McCune! Oh, man...this is gonna be awesome. Going to get some popcorn - don't post again till I get back ...

And RobT! Even better!!!

Okay. I'm back! Aaaaaaand...GO!!!

Well, then, you may see "revolutionary" with Hobbit. Supposedly, they have patents pending on some proprietary stuff in that game. We'll see!

I don't know. My son in law is a casual player and he stays on the damn thing for two hours straight. Don't know how he does it. I always need a beer break.

I love you, Alex.

Gottlieb, maybe? Or do you just go to play pinball with a bunch of cheap bastards that don't want to spend a buck on a quality game? We've got a lot of people around here like that, too. And are you James T. Kirk again with a brand new Trekkie account, or do you just his "friend" at the conventions?

Alex isn't actually doing anything to drain JJP's income flow. He actually helps it. His helping me from his personal cell phone while he was waiting for his flight at an airport halfway across the country is one of the reasons I decided to preorder Hobbit. And he wasn't getting paid a dime to do it. He's a good guy, defending a good company, and doing great work for them as well.

I actually think that WOZ, with it's attractive LCD display and universal theme, brings a lot of people to pinball that wouldn't previously have tried it. And I can't think of another machine in recent memory that I can say that about. For that reason, perhaps, it's revolutionary.

Why don't you send him documentation that it CAN? He doesn't owe you anything, and you don't owe him anything. Nothing to see here...let's move on.

Yes, I do. And how's it going, Tiberius?

Here's what we've learned so far in this thread (if you don't want to read the whole thing):

1. WOZ has revolutionized pinball.
2. WOZ has NOT revolutionized pinball.
3. Nothing can actually revolutionize pinball and make it still BE pinball.
4. "Revolutionize" is entirely the wrong word to use anyway.
5. Some people love WOZ.
6. Some people hate WOZ.
7. Some people love WOZ so much that they're willing to take time out of their day to get their calipers out and show just how much better WOZ is.
8. Some people hate WOZ so much that they're willing to ridicule said person for doing such a thing.
9. The people who hate WOZ are actually open minded enough that they're willing to someday spend some serious time with the machine to see if it might change their mind, especially with the new code.
10. The people who love WOZ are shocked by this development.

I'd like to add two things to this discussion:

1. I'm a huge JJP fan, and while I think WOZ is a great game, it's probably the game that I play the least now. I've learned that much like with video games, more technology doesn't necessarily make for a better game. Donkey Kong is much more addictive than some recent games, and some old B/W games are much more addictive than WOZ. (At least for me...my son in law won't get off WOZ and I won't get off Congo (but probably because it's a much easier game)).

2. Here's something no WOZ owner has ever done, because they're too busy defending the machine they love...so I'm gonna do it. If anybody wants to spend some quality time with a WOZ, you're welcome to stop by my place and play it to your heart's content. I'll even crack a few beers with you - let me know what you want to drink. If you still hate it, that's fine. Different opinions are what make the world an interesting place.

The invitation stands to anybody...especially YOU, McCune, if you're ever in NJ (since it sounds like you're keeping an open mind!).

Hey! I invited McCune to NJ first! Freakin' Canadians trying to steal my thunder...

(I actually have a Congo PF I need him to restore...I'm trying to butter him up!)

The mounting system is absolutely fine. Sturdy and solid, and the best thing is that when you need to, you can unhook the handles and lift it up to get underneath. Wonderful design. One person's bad experience doesn't mean it's bad. No matter what the product is, there will always be a few flawed ones in the bunch. (If you believe the story to begin with...)

Thanks for that, Alex. Now I have to go change my Depends.

Who knew McCune had a sense of humor?

My offer from p. 9 of this thread still stands, Jim. Get to Jersey, and you can play your heart out on a dialed-in WOZ while I ply you with beer. I'd love to have you be my guest while I convince you to do a PF restore.

Most of the people there already own a WOZ, despite what Trekkie says in another thread (he apparently did an official poll of 10 people...supposedly...how you even bring that up with a stranger is a little creepy: "Pardon me, I'm a Trekkie. Did you play WOZ or Sterns more today?" Gallup he's not.)

I've been to every JJP party until this one because my tire decided to adopt a nail. And I never play WOZ when I'm there. Why would I? I've got one in my house.

Mines dialed in as well.

At least it would have given the nerds something to do.

Not much activity on those forums. Most of the users are busy writing their profiles for desperation dating websites. It's tough to keep a girlfriend when you say goodnight to your dates by saying, "Live long and prosper."

LOL! I'm sorry...I was actually winning my argument by just staying quiet. But I had to chime in here to give you a thumbs up, Alex. Carry on. I'll go back to shutting TFU.

Oh...My...God...

I just gave lowepg a thumbs-up. Wow...

...maybe Trekkie1978 actually brings Pinsiders together! (Cue Kumbaya...)

But I bet you won't!...