Wow , that could put you in a position where you'll be scratchin alot of pins off your list! I don't think many of the older 80's-90's feature much except women....I like you have never approached it from that perspective and I can see her concern.

Funny, I was going to call her a prude

But no, I can get whatever I want...

When you turn my Bally Skateball on, it actually lights up the nipples on the girl on the left. So you can clearly see her nipples through her shirt. You can kind of tell by this picture, but when the backbox lights come on they actually light up in a darker color than her shirt..

I talked to Greg Freres (the artist) at the Seattle show and asked him if thats how it was supposed to be, and he said yes haha...

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No, never...
She does know that this is Pinball, right?!?
I'd say you're gonna miss out on a couple of hundred sweet pins then if she scoffs at CFTBL's damsel in a one piece swimsuit...
I guess the kid's are never going to get to watch any modern-day television then!
Qubo and Nick till the break-a-break-a dawn eh gweem?
Oh- the teenage years will be a fun one for sure!

So I guess the "adult" topper is out of the question then too...

LOL, yeah I guess you have a point. Love the nipple lights! How clever!

That sucks Gweem. Especially since that is really a scene from the movie. Maybe a tad racier, but still a legit movie scene.

Seven years old is about the proper time to learn that by being a good looking female, you stand a better chance of favorable results when confronted by almost any adversary.

Giant gorillas, fish men, traffic cops, judges, HR department, college professors, and successful athletes all cast favor on fine examples of the fairer sex.

Sure it is sexist, sure it is unfair, but seven year olds need to learn the reality of the world we live in.

GORGAR BABY!

Ya pussy

LOL...you guys crack me up. I have a 10 year old daughter and a 7 year old son, and yes - there have been some pins that the wife has said 'no' because of the theme/artwork. Thankfully, she's not as concerned with pretty girls as she is with 'creepy stuff'. She is OK with my Paragon - but said absolutely no to LOTR. Heck, even the shrunken head on RBION gave her the creeps.

No but my wife says I can never have a Playboy. Not that I want one.

She just laughed and rolled her eyes at my Future Spa, though she didn't laugh when I said The Machine was my other bride. Basically I can have whatever I want in the man cave as long as it isn't "Nude or Crude."

BOP is the only one she's ever mentioned an objection to. I guess the balls in the mouth thing is kind of pushing it in a family setting. So I pass up one with a diamond playfield at a reasonable price.

Playboy I can totally understand, but CftBL is a movie that has girls swimming in a lagoon. It's your life and your wife so you have to do what you have to do, but I just don't see it on this pin.

I think it objectifies creatures.

I think that Creature backglass is a good role model for today's women. It and the film feature a very beautiful, full figured women. Not the anorexic, string beans that we see everywhere today that are worshiped.

That does seem rather prudish and conservative to me I'm afraid - but it's worth considering that a lot of people are prone to over-reactive judgements when children are involved. The damsel in distress at the mercy of monsters is a staple of B-movie style from the era the pin reflects. In fact I'd go as far as to say it is impossible to grow up without seeing imagery of damsels in distress. Was Superman objectifying women when he rescues Lois Lane time after time?

Racy artwork makes me more likely to buy a pin personally, I have no children and my long-term girlfriend tolerated Stern's Playboy, she thought it was a little embarassing and nothing more.

HA!

Hate to say it, but does your wife watch TV? Heck, not even cable now...With shows like the bachelor, "Hey, you excited, here's 40 girls you have never met, pick 2 who go home now.

What kind of impression does TV have on a 7 year old? Better only have on Nick Jr.

I think it may be time to have a heart to heart with her, or get rid of the TV.

I can think of a ton more pins that are a hell of a lot worse than CFTBL...

Why not just buy it and put blue painters tape over the lovely boobies?

I sense a WOZ in somebody's future.

Actually, just looking over your lineup Gweem, you've proven it's possible to still have a great line up from games with just one knocker.

My eight year old and five year don't even notice the artwork on my Paragon. Then again, I don't have a wife to make a big deal out of either and call their attention to it either.

Haha, I just looked at your games list. Containing themes of bullying, child abuse, prostitution, drugs, self-harm, cultism, infidelity and murder, you probably shouldn't ever let your wife see the production of Tommy.

Never has concerned me, but then again I don't have any kids.

Racy? No. Rudy? Yes.

Ehh I do not run what machine I am getting past my wife if I really want it. She is not into playing so that is not a worry. I do have a little one on the way. But I would say Pinball would make a lot less of a negative impression on the little ones than the blatant objectification on TV, Magazines, Movies ect...ect.. So no the art on CFTBL and others would not prevent me from buying it.

Totally protecting children from the influence of the outside world will be impossible once they reach a certain age. I do agree on censoring stuff when they are really little but I think not buying a pin because there is a nice looking lady on it is going a bit too far.

There is a lot of worse things out there than BG artwork(I know you realize this). Unfortunately your children are going to be exposed to some of them no matter what IMHO. Besides if your imparting your morals on your children, they will see the artwork for what it is and not look at it as a reason to objectify women. At any rate, goodluck and hopefully your wife will come around on this issue and let you get what you want. Her mindset is going to put the kabosh on a lot of great titles, which would be a bummer.

That's a good one.

LOL dont seem a problem the creature artwork

Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about HBO or even cable TV. You stated that your wife thinks that backglass objectifies women... your telling me the kids haven't seen TV shows that objectify women on ABC, NBC, CBS? Hell, even the promo / commercials for some of these shows are nuts...

I know your not letting a 7 year old watch Weeds or Hung.. Lets get real.

Racy artwork is a major concern with the pins that make it into the house. However, my wife went the other way with CFTBL. It is tastefully done and she is wearing a one piece suit. There isn't anything overtly sexual about it, other than a great figure. I have shown her a lot of pins that get rejected, creature just wasn't one of them.

+1

But probably would not get stern playboy

The only one my wife said no to was Funhouse. She has something against Rudy...poor Rudy not allowed in my home.

LOL, too funny!

My all time favorite quote on these boards ever. Nothing screams "not a prude" like hardcore porn. I bet she would LOVE that you wrote that quote. Holy hell that is funny stuff right there.

Exactly what kind of "hardcore" is your wife a fan of? I'm just making small talk of course. BTW any pics of her would help.JK

In answer to the original question, no in fact just the opposite!

Man, my wife won't warm up to the hardcore, she's more into the skinamax softcore stuff!

My wife probably wouldn't say anything about CFTBL, but hey, it's like they say, if Mama ain't happy, no one is happy! She did have reservations about the Funhouse that came home recently. She HATES clowns, and Rudy is close enough!

Tell her its the Funhouse or a Cyclone I bet she will warm up to the Funhouse then.

Creature is a classic movie from the 50's, i don't remember what the movie itself showed, but i'm pretty sure it had the girl in the monster's arms! i'm just a college dude so my opinion is pretty loose on whats racy or not, with kids involved its easy to draw the line pretty quickly. My parents, who didn't even let me buy "T-rated" video games till i was officially 13, and even then, "no shooting other people" was the rule. (Battlefield 3 rules btw!) I remember watching all the universal monster movies at like 5 or 6. I think far worse exists in the world besides universal monster movie images though, even for kids. Maybe its more the machine art than anything, but i think they were just duplicating scenes from the movie...?

You could always tell your wife & kids that the creature mearly saved this poor attractive woman from drowning. The creature is actually a well respected businessman who happens to be very sensitive about his appearance & once he saved this poor woman, they shook hands and called it a night.

Then you should mention that 'you should never judge a book by it's cover'

see how that goes, either that or just get another pin... tons to choose from

I am very confused here. I am no porn expert but doesn't porn objectify women which seems to be the problem with the Creature back glass.
If it is the big problem, can't you just put a cover over it so the kids won't see it and then play it when they are asleep.. like you do with your TV shows?

Great thread, Brian! It was my machine he was going to buy but I have 3 kids myself, so I know how that goes with the wife sometimes.

On a side note, I stopped by Brian's today and he was gracious enough to let me play through his collection of machines. Man, what a nice setup he has! Great room, and great examples of some killer games. Got to play some titles I hadn't played before. Came away really impressed with Star Trek: TNG and RFM. Thanks again, Brian!

We're raising a nation of pussies..I hope no other countries are catching on...

Naw, it isn't about being tough. We just don't want our daughter getting the wrong idea. We filter everything we expose her to because we love her and want the best for her. We also teach her that the guns are real and they aren't toys.

Meant as a joke, every kid should be taught that about guns - actually had some sad personal experience with that. But truly, I do not like the "everybody wins" society we've created. It can go too far, pretty soon every kid feels he is entitled, and every parent has a lawyer to back that up. Kids need to learn that things are earned, and not everything can go your way.

Back to the original topic - I agree that this isn't necessarily racy. I also agree that there are plenty of pins out there - getting one that everyone likes will not be all that hard.

With Cable TV, internet, and everything else out there, what possible damage could cfbl do. Seriously, that is nuts.

Sorry, must have missed the sarcasm. I couldn't agree with you more. Of course, we also have a creature and love the artwork.