Wax the game so the Mylar can be removed and stick down some Mylar around the pops and any other trouble spots.

Don't let the **possibility** of something going wrong ruin you fun of owning a game.

I think I will do this and after seeing my bud Chris' 75th damage to the Munchkin playfield, I think a order from Cliffy would be a good idea also. Too bad I have to do this though on a new game.

A steel ball smashing around on a painted sheet of wood, wear is going to happen - I guarantee it.

Ironic because claims were made by JJP early on that no Cliffys would be needed for this game.

Just to put things in perspective it's too bad Cliffys were not available for MB and AFM and installed from day one. Two of the greatest games ever and they both had drop holes that would get completely blown out in well less than 1000 games for lack of a ten dollar piece of metal to line the hole.

This is still VERY isolated, right?

It seems par for the course with a new manufacturer to have some QC/design issues. Until JJP shows themselves to be unwilling to address the issue (and based on their willingness to work through the light board issues- I wouldn't expect that)- it seems like a manageable problem.

If its 10-15 games out of 1500- not a huge deal.... if it turns into 150- well, that's different.

So far I have heard of four with some kind of issue. They seem to be early runs if I am reading this thread correctly.

Your earlier post stated D.O.M @ 9/23/14, you must be mistaken if you have had it for 14 months...or am I missing something!

I've had my WOZ for 8 months and it shows zero damage or wear and I have not installed any of the cliffy's. Any large run of games willhave a few that pop up with some issues. It will be interesting to see how the platform as well as the playfield hold up 10years from now.

Has anyone called and asked them what they plan on doing about the issue?

i think they plan on selling playfield protectors.

You are correct. I meant to type 9/23/13.

mine 11/1/2013 zero damage or wear. About 700 games.

Irresponsible, that Cliffys are not standard on all games produced today.

If I'm beating a dead horse, I'm sorry, not my intention:

But are these early PF's and an issue that was resolved with newer ones, or is this cropping up on the PF's used now as well? Is this at all a concern for TH PF's?

I just don't see the answer, only people stating "If I understand this right..." I'm sure others are interested too in the conclusive answer.

It seems like info is still being gathered to figure out which playfields are having issues. I think more people need to post d.o.m and type of playfields(thickness/layers) are effected before this is determined.

Normally Id agree that a swap wasn't a big deal but WOZ is a mess with all the connectors and individual boards. Hell, just removing the castle mini is a pita.

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I have had zero chipping. 75RR mfg 10/7/2014, 250 games. I see mylar on my PF where the pics of damaged fields do not. About 1in square mylar under every ball drop - both inlanes, where VUK ramp dumps onto witch PF, Munchkinland hole onto main PF.

Do I put Mylar in front of the Winkie target all the way down to the bottom of the insert or just between the top of the insert that is showing and the Winkie target? Basically don't know if I should cover the insert or not.

For an added cost, JJP is offering a protective coating on TH. I'm thinking it might be a good upgrade to opt for in order to preclude this from happening again.

We have had a WOZ on route in a busy location for a year and a half. Built May of 2013. Grossing 100.00-160.00 a week.
Just took a close look, and happy to report no playfileld weasr, even under commercial use. With all the play it's had, I would actually expect a little wear by now.

The thing is... Woz was promoted as having this kind of upgraded of vs the industry standard to start with...

the problem I see with having a restorer clear it. IS that the ink and/or clear isn't grabbing to one of the previous layers. So someone adding more clear to an area where layer 3 was cleared on top of a non scuffed layer, wouldn't do much and layer 2-3 would still crack and release, regardless if more is on top.

It's worth a shot.

I've saved EMs where the paint was no longer holding on to the playfield.

If it keeps the game working until CPR does a re-run, then that's better than worrying about every plunge....

I agree. It's not a wear issue, it's an adhesion issue. The issue lies in the prep work I'm guessing.

I agree with this as well.

Seems to me that they are later PFs from a brief period. My game was one of the first shipped, made in 5/2013. I had it on location and after around 4000-4500 plays I didn't have any playfield issues. There was a little chipping of the clear around the edges of the Throne Room hole, but nothing that affected the artwork and nothing you wouldn't expect on a game after 4k plays.

Also reminds me of gottlieb system 3's. That silver primer they used was ass. the ink and lacquer coat doesn't stick for shit. But clearing holds up great. Even when I did my stargate, after 7 years, nothing was letting go.

To everyone that posted pictures, what # is your WOZ so we can narrow down which ones might have the defective playfields?, and that way see which ones we need to be most concerned about.

It will be the production date, not the number that will tell that story. Good idea though.

Exactly.

I don't think it's too late to ask. What's the harm in trying? Worse thing that would happen is he would tell you No and you're no worse off than having not asked but there's a chance he could say yes especially if you are somewhat cordial about it and plead your case with facts and not emotion (as a lot of people tend to do).

I would certainly ask, nothing to lose from asking from what I can tell.

Good luck either way!

My game has a production date of 10/24/2013 and after 400 or so plays the playfield does not have any clear coat chipping or artwork lifting that I am able to observe.

Gord

I really think we need to post D.O.M of the machines that are affected, it will be easier to narrow down the problemed playfields.

What's really surprising is not the problem but the lack others having the same problem. I'm beginning to think it's not a production date problem but more a matter of someone grabbing a playfield by the VUK hole with greasy finger lickin' good anti-adhesion fingers. Terrible for the person it happens to but it didn't seem to happen all that much. 8/20/14 production date - no problems

I guess people who get their playfield after workers have chowed down on a bucket of extra tasty crispy get the short end of the stick...