(Topic ID: 181987)

Hardtop Playfield New Product Announcement .. Poll Included


By Outsidedge

3 years ago



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“If you plan to buy a Hardtop, please select from the 3 titles below.”

  • Space Shuttle 129 votes
    49%
  • Pharaoh 32 votes
    12%
  • Comet 50 votes
    19%
  • Future Spa 37 votes
    14%
  • Wizard 17 votes
    6%

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#901 1 year ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Yes!!!! Just picked up a project High Speed that was taken down to the playfield and put in boxes. Figuring it out has been fun. Just about got it together with a clear playfield protector until the hard top comes. Going to be awesome!

Well I guess I won't be selling the two I've got...

#902 1 year ago

Sorry if this is a repeat but I would love and elektra upper pf hardtop...that would make my game for me...thanks!

#903 1 year ago

Firepower!?!

#904 1 year ago
Quoted from HamDandsome:

Sorry if this is a repeat but I would love and elektra upper pf hardtop...that would make my game for me...thanks!

Yep, that’d be a seller ... almost all Electra’s I’ve seen have a flakey-paint upper playfield. Mine does.

rd

#905 1 year ago
Quoted from HamDandsome:

Sorry if this is a repeat but I would love and elektra upper pf hardtop...that would make my game for me...thanks!

It would be perfect as a upper and lower set. No need for the main playfied, but the lower on mine is hashed as well.

#906 1 year ago
Quoted from RCA1:

It would be perfect as a upper and lower set. No need for the main playfied, but the lower on mine is hashed as well.

Is it “hashed” under the acrylic cover?

rd

#907 1 year ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Is it “hashed” under the acrylic cover?
rd

No, I mean the bottom level mini playfield, not the main level.

#908 1 year ago
Quoted from RCA1:

No, I mean the bottom level mini playfield, not the main level.

Ahhhhhhh I see.

Mine seems ok. But the upper one is toast.

rd

#909 1 year ago

Just did my Taxi....looks awesome and plays smooth.

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#910 1 year ago

Any update on the Firepower Hardtop progess?

#911 1 year ago
Quoted from Balaraform:

Just did my Taxi....looks awesome and plays smooth.

I'm thinking this is on my short list now for mine once it's 100% working (getting closer!). How was the install? Did you do it with two people to help keep it lined up properly? I'm terrified I'd apply it a centimeter short and ruin it...

#912 1 year ago
Quoted from eabundy:

Any update on the Firepower Hardtop progess?

I was told at the Ohio Show by a inside source it would be closer to mid/late
summer.

#913 1 year ago

What other option is there besides dry installs?

#914 1 year ago
Quoted from grantopia:

I'm terrified I'd apply it a centimeter short and ruin it...

It's not that scary. The hardtop is flexible enough to start with a small section.
Line it up on the playfield with the plastic sheet still on the back. Pull the sheet off part of the adhesive, lay that part down. It won't move after that, as you pull the rest of the plastic off and stick the rest of the hardtop down.
Also, if a "small" part makes contact slightly wrong, you can pull it back up and re-set it correctly.

#915 1 year ago

I've done two now. I position the hardtop on the playfield with the backing still on. Once I'm satisfied with it I put a board across the middle with clamps on each side to hold it. Then I peeled the backing as far as I could from the edge to the clamped board and cut the backing about 3" long and folded it against itself. Now the exposed part of the hardtop gets pressed onto the playfield and rubbed all over so it's solidly in place. Take the clamps and the board off, lift the end that still has the backing and grab that folded over portion and pull the rest of the backing off. Press the rest of the hardtop to the playfield. Sounds more complicated than it was to do but with the clamps and doing 1/2 at a time the position never moved.

#916 1 year ago
Quoted from nitrojcrawf:

I was told at the Ohio Show by a inside source it would be closer to mid/late
summer.

I donated the playfield for the prototype (last August). I'm told the prototype is close. At one point I was hoping to have it done for PATZ this weekend . But, alas, that didn't happen. Good things come to those that wait. Hardtops are an awesome option for these games.

#917 1 year ago
Quoted from 64bsstp:

I've done two now. I position the hardtop on the playfield with the backing still on. Once I'm satisfied with it I put a board across the middle with clamps on each side to hold it. Then I peeled the backing as far as I could from the edge to the clamped board and cut the backing about 3" long and folded it against itself. Now the exposed part of the hardtop gets pressed onto the playfield and rubbed all over so it's solidly in place. Take the clamps and the board off, lift the end that still has the backing and grab that folded over portion and pull the rest of the backing off. Press the rest of the hardtop to the playfield. the position never moved.

This.

#918 1 year ago

Somewhere recently in this thread someone posted that they use A wet adhesion process. This is not recommended and not warranted. The proper installation is not very difficult. As discussed by others,position the hardtop on a clean play field with all artwork removed from the inserts. When it is in position place a clamp on each side of the playfield approximately half to 2/3 of the way up. This will ensure the hardtop does not move from its existing alignment. Pull the bottom side up and remove The paper covering the 3M adhesive on that half. Let go of the hardtop it will lay down without wrinkle. Now apply pressure to that area to lock it in. Remove the clamps pull back the top side and remove the adhesive backing from the top half let it go. You are done. Again I need to stress there is no reason to use any type of a liquid and float the playfield. This can potential emulsify the adhesive

#919 1 year ago

Taking the plunge on a Hardtop for my Pharaoh restoration. Playfield was pretty trashed to begin with in non-mylared areas, and the mylar removal wasn't a success as it has been for me in the past. Looking forward to seeing the product for the first time in person at Pinfest.

#920 1 year ago

Any idea on the High Speed topper? If you need one I've got a couple extras I'd be willing to send over...

#921 1 year ago
Quoted from spiroagnew:

Taking the plunge on a Hardtop for my Pharaoh restoration. Playfield was pretty trashed to begin with in non-mylared areas, and the mylar removal wasn't a success as it has been for me in the past. Looking forward to seeing the product for the first time in person at Pinfest.

That a boy! I'm going to get Walt M. to pick up my Black Knight hard top at PinFest. Save a little bit on the shipping charges. I've been talking about this with the boys at Bluffs for a few months. A few of them are curious how this is going to work out. For an absolutely trashed playfield, this seems like a great option! I'm dying to get this BK finished as it's been sitting in my basement sanded down for a few months!

#922 1 year ago
Quoted from dzorbas:

That a boy! I'm going to get Walt M. to pick up my Black Knight hard top at PinFest. Save a little bit on the shipping charges. I've been talking about this with the boys at Bluffs for a few months. A few of them are curious how this is going to work out. For an absolutely trashed playfield, this seems like a great option! I'm dying to get this BK finished as it's been sitting in my basement sanded down for a few months!

The big appeal to me... besides cost... is not having to strip the underside of the playfield. I hadn't even considered this prior to a conversation with some local collectors. Now if they would just make an EBD I'd be set

#923 1 year ago
Quoted from roar:

The big appeal to me... besides cost... is not having to strip the underside of the playfield. I hadn't even considered this prior to a conversation with some local collectors. Now if they would just make an EBD I'd be set

I think my guys are a bit skeptical as to how this will play. The BK I'm working on had a horribly bad playfield and I immediately thought this would be a great candidate for a hardtop. And good luck finding a CPR playfield that wouldn't completely break the bank. I think this is a lot better than parting out a working machine because of a crappy playfield. Will it be "original" or perfect? No, but it will give it new life at a decent price and it isn't a huge undertaking like a full playfield swap!

#924 1 year ago
Quoted from dzorbas:

I think my guys are a bit skeptical as to how this will play. The BK I'm working on had a horribly bad playfield and I immediately thought this would be a great candidate for a hardtop. And good luck finding a CPR playfield that wouldn't completely break the bank. I think this is a lot better than parting out a working machine because of a crappy playfield. Will it be "original" or perfect? No, but it will give it new life at a decent price and it isn't a huge undertaking like a full playfield swap!

Agree on all counts... Micro had said that EBD was "in the schedule" but then put a call out for a donor playfied so I'm less hopeful of seeing another EBD remake any time soon. The hardtop looks like a great alternative, hope more titles are announced soon.

#925 1 year ago

what is the shelf life on the adhesive backing? ( how long can a hardtop be stored before use?)

#926 1 year ago

I would like to see an EBD done as well!! Seems like there is still a huge need for this title and the great guys at Hardtop will hopefully get this done!

#927 1 year ago

How about one for Heavy Metal Meltdown. Fantastic game and every single playfield I've ever seen is trashed!

#928 1 year ago

Please do Fish Tales! Yes I know repro playfields were made but this is a much more cost effective option in my opinion.

#929 1 year ago

Count me in for a Firepower!

#930 1 year ago

I will need one for my Firepower that I just picked up. I did my Space Shuttle last year and still looks amazing just like the day it was installed!

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#931 1 year ago

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#932 1 year ago

Mata Hari would be nice. Power Play for that matter too........

#933 1 year ago

Grand Lizard! Impossible to find one without a blown out upper playfield.

#934 1 year ago

All are amazing suggestions...right after Flash Gordon

#935 1 year ago
Quoted from GoneFishinLvMsg:

Grand Lizard! Impossible to find one without a blown out upper playfield.

Well, close to impossible. I have one of the few left.

#936 1 year ago

Was the hard top set made for the upper and lower playfields for Elektra? Seems like everyone is in need of those.

#938 1 year ago

I am in for a firepower
Frank

#939 1 year ago
Quoted from freddy:

what is the shelf life on the adhesive backing? ( how long can a hardtop be stored before use?)

It's 3M 300LSE. You can search for the data sheet, which says:

Storage: Store at room temperature conditions of 70°F (21°C) and 50% relative humidity.
Shelf Life: If stored properly, product retains its performance and properties for 18 months from date of shipment.

I suspect it's quite usable for pinball purposes for a lot longer than that because sticking to wood/paint is a breeze compared to everything else they recommend it for. Lightly oiled surfaces? Really?

#940 1 year ago
Quoted from 64bsstp:

It's 3M 300LSE. You can search for the data sheet, which says:
Storage: Store at room temperature conditions of 70°F (21°C) and 50% relative humidity.
Shelf Life: If stored properly, product retains its performance and properties for 18 months from date of shipment.
I suspect it's quite usable for pinball purposes for a lot longer than that because sticking to wood/paint is a breeze compared to everything else they recommend it for. Lightly oiled surfaces? Really?

There are some crazy aggressive adhesives out there these days.

We used some tape that applies aluminum channel to shelving facing. Can stick a one foot piece (by 1.5" wide) on a shelf, and immediately it'll easily support your own weight hanging from it.

#941 1 year ago
Quoted from RustyLizard:

. I have one of the few left

I have played it. It is very nice along with his very nice collection. Did you ever get your game room finished?

#942 1 year ago
Quoted from heni1977:

I have played it. It is very nice along with his very nice collection. Did you ever get your game room finished?

No. I'm slow.

#943 1 year ago

I see these listed on the Outside Edge site.
Space Shuttle Hardtop playfield overlay (traditional version)
Space Shuttle Hardtop playfield overlay - non hotdog "SPACE" and "SHUTTLE" version (less common)
Pharaoh Hardtop playfield overlay (upper and lower)
Taxi Hardtop playfield overlay - blonde hair version
Taxi Hardtop playfield overlay - red hair version
Wizard Hardtop playfield overlay
Future Spa Hardtop playfield overlay (widebody)
Comet Hardtop playfield overlay
Frontier Hardtop playfield overlay
Black Knight Hardtop playfield overlay (upper and lower)
Evel Knievel Hardtop playfield overlay

What is the current list of coming playfields ?
Looks like there is a lot of testing going on for several machines.

Thx.

#944 1 year ago

Are there going to be any Hardtops to play on at Lodi's Golden State Pinball Festival this coming weekend? I'd love to have a look and play on one in person.
~Steveo

#945 1 year ago
Quoted from Impzilla:

I see these listed on the Outside Edge site.
Space Shuttle Hardtop playfield overlay (traditional version)
Space Shuttle Hardtop playfield overlay - non hotdog "SPACE" and "SHUTTLE" version (less common)
Pharaoh Hardtop playfield overlay (upper and lower)
Taxi Hardtop playfield overlay - blonde hair version
Taxi Hardtop playfield overlay - red hair version
Wizard Hardtop playfield overlay
Future Spa Hardtop playfield overlay (widebody)
Comet Hardtop playfield overlay
Frontier Hardtop playfield overlay
Black Knight Hardtop playfield overlay (upper and lower)
Evel Knievel Hardtop playfield overlay
What is the current list of coming playfields ?
Looks like there is a lot of testing going on for several machines.
Thx.

We will not announce anything in the pipeline for several reasons. The biggest one being the amount of calls and emails and PM’s. It’s wonderfully that everyone is so excited about this product, as am i. The issue is that many people feel they have the next suggestion,the next prototype,the next best game.We are all very passionate about this hobby but we sometimes forget that some of the people involved are busy with much more than just pinball. FYI,several of us own companies with real world issues that must take president over pinball. I hope I’m not coming across as brash, that’s not my intention. I am just hoping to let people understand our process.

That said I can tell you that High speed is in process along with a few others.

#946 1 year ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

That said I can tell you that High speed is in process along with a few others.

Thanks for the info and explanation.

#948 1 year ago

You guys are doing great! Keep up the good work!!

#949 1 year ago

Still waiting impatiently for a Blackout...

#950 1 year ago
Quoted from John_In_WI:

Still waiting impatiently for a Blackout...

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