Do you have a ballpark price in mind for these?

Well, you should already know my opinion, but I voted for Future Spa anwyays. Just give the word!

I'd also consider Shuttle once the prices are known, since I don't think there's a way to vote for multiples?

Don't intend to ever own another Comet, I've only ever seen one Pharoah in my area and it was fully restored+cleared already, and I don't personally like Wizard.

*edit* Derp.. approx 50% of a repro playfield would put most in the 350-400 range?

Post your wishes and I will try to keep a running list.If the playfield is in someone elses Que I will not list it.
Here is a running list of games we would love to see this product made for:
Black Knight **
Eight Ball
Fire Power *
Flight 2000
The Phantom of the Opera
Dungeons and Dragons
Black Hole
Haunted House
Robowars
TX sector
Space Station
Added over 7 years ago: Blackout

Added over 7 years ago: Timewarp

So, somewhere around $300-$600? It's a big range, which was why I was asking.

You need to come to Ohio!

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I'll uh....get right on that? I have an old friend that I'd love to see that I think is in Ohio, but not real sure where. Would kill to pick her brain for a few hours.. Seriously though, I'm pretty sure I will never visit Ohio. =P

Hey, that's me. I'm happy to help to answers any questions from my experience as well!

I think what he's saying is that a price 1/2 of a repo playfield of that kind of game.

Space Shuttle was $550 for a repo playfield.

Silverball Mania was $550

Black Knight was $579 for the DOUBLE playfield set.

https://web.archive.org/web/20081118193959/http://www.classicplayfields.com/store.html

These games were never the high budget $$$$$ $999 playfields....

Will have to keep an eye out for a trashed space shuttle as i have none of the titles you list yet and space shuttle is on my want list.

Do you have to sand down the original first, or just place on top? How do the inserts look having to shine through extra material?

For me its tough to vote. I would rule out comet simply because its such a cheap game, most people wouldn't want to stick the extra money into it. I like the idea of Pharaoh but its a pretty low production run. I think you should do a game like black knight personally. I know they made repro PF's for it, but now they are hard to come by. Not to mention not everyone has the kind of money to sink into a repro PF (such as myself). Plus there is A TON of BK's out there that have badly worn PF's and it is a desirable game.

I think space shuttle was a good first choice, because of most of the reasons I listed above about BK. Your other options just don't have the same kind of draw. Some other good candidates IMO would be: Centaur, Sorcerer, eight ball or EBD, Xenon, Pinbot ect.

You're going to want to sand down the original playfield. This includes removing any mylar that may be on there today. It's also important to sand off any decals over the inserts.

You can see the process I went through in my beta test thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/space-shuttle-new-prototype-playfield-product

Its not a vote. Outside edge is attempting to get an idea of how many of these to produce in a run. They have stated that there will be more titles to come.

But if you want one of two+ of the listed titles you can't quantify that with a single item vote.

I look forward to seeing these come about.

I got the impression from your post that yours was already sanded due to the overlay?

Personally, my top list of games as far as finding a game with a wasted playfield would be space shuttle, firepower, black knight, comet, and if you wanted to do a widebody- flight 2000. I have been to a bunch of different pinball shows and those titles are always either roached out or have a nos or repo playfield, yea some of the titles are not worth big money but if its half the cost of a new playfield and it certainly looks like a job that someone that doesn't think they have the skills to do a playfield swap could accomplish this themselves instead of buying an expensive new playfield and having to pay someone else to install it.

I think he messed up the poll

I would like to say that I think The Phantom of the Opera would be a good candidate or any of the other DE titles that have never had a repro field done, the popular ones obviously lol. POTO owners have been begging for a repro for years now

Which all have HAD repro playfields, at the very least...smh...

Yeah there's probably a reason they had repro's made for them right? Did everyone who needed one get one? Could everyone who wanted one afford one even if they were lucky enough to get in on these limited runs of repro playfields? If you missed out are they easy to come by now? Answer those questions and then explain to me why those games shouldn't be near the top of the priority list for this product. If you have a good explanation then please point me in the direction of where I can get my BK looking really nice for ~350 or keep shaking your head.

I do not believe that any playfields that are in the pipeline to be reproduced are being considered. CPR has Sorcerer,EBD,Xenon

Thats too bad, missed opportunity if you ask me. Hopefully this product will be very successful and one day have a wide range

IMhO, you should start with a game that has not been reproduced already

There are still a ton of games out there that have never been considered for reproduction. I think this is exciting ! So many possible opportunities for what was once a lost cause title.

It was in some places, but I had to sand it even more to get all the insert decals off.

And explain to me where the hell I can get a mint Future Spa at *any* price, since I've seen ONE NOS playfield in the 6 years I've been in the hobby, it's in a game of a local collector to me, and he won't sell it for any price....believe me, I've asked. The playfields have never been repro'ed, or the plastics, or the backglass. Have never seen a playfield that would be worth trying to restore, and I have one already with VERY minimal wear. It's too complicated to be fully repainted, even the stupid inserts are screened with FOUR COLORS instead of just BLACK, and every one I've ever seen except that ONE NOS was yellowed and gross, unless chicks with "hairy" legs is your thing.

I'm sorry you missed your window, but frankly, what does that have to do with me? BK has had playfields run TWICE from what I understand, plastics were run.. pretty sure the backglass was too?

If it was that important to you, which it's clearly NOT since 350 bucks is your ceiling, you could go find one. Just because you don't want to spend the money is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than *not even having an option*, which are the games I'm advocating are more important to run first. The fact that you personally want to be a cheapskate because you missed them or simply didn't want to pay the price earlier when they were available has zero bearing on the games I'd rather see be *POSSIBLE* to be restored.

I can't just go out and conjure something that doesn't exist out of thin air. You can go buy a restored game, or wait for these to be run, or wait for a repro PF that's already been run to hit ebay....there's at least an option, even if you find it not to your liking. Frankly, I'd rather that CPR was going to run Future Spa, but apparently they just hate the game because there aren't thousands of people crawled up it's rear like Paragon... I'd *rather* sit on a waitlist for two years and pay them 1k for a new production playfield than have to jump through hoops trying to convince someone else to make some kind of alternative solution, but they don't have any interest, because CPR's bottom line (and in some cases their very survival, which I can't argue against..) will always take precedence over what's actually needed. You're taking a VERY narrow view of what's best for the hobby, simply because it would benefit you, IMO. Your opinion is only the most popular games should be preserved....my opinion is that as MANY DIFFERENT games as possible should be preserved. Which one of us is right? I dunno.

Hold on.. I gotta see if I still have the pic on my phone...it's pretty funny...

If he likes French women, maybe that's his thing.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/14/french-women-are-bragging-about-their-body-hair/

Yep...

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Guess its not my thing

I'll take a space shuttle when they're available.

I am commenting to follow this. Really cool sounding project. Can't wait to see how it pans out.

Frax just want to say I'm right there with you. I have a Dungeons and Dragons, and I suspect hell will freeze over before I see a CPR. Something like this seems very viable alternative.

Just an overview but many games like Firepower, Black Kight ...etc were and are much more popular than Future Spa that many owners are looking for a fix for thier games. Just like any product demand drives the market.

Black Knight and Firepower already had repo playfields & vinyl overlays over the years.

Future Spa, Comet and whatnot have never had any repo playfields.

Count me in for a new space shuttle ASAP!

I've owned 4 Comet's and they all had trashed playfields. And there is a good reason for this. It's a really fun game. A cheap way to make the playfield look new would be the ticket. Still can't believe CPR never did this.

Looks like a cool product.

Another idea: you could use this to easily create a retheme. Think of all the Flash machines out there, most with trashed playfields, and nobody really likes the art.

Come up with a new theme (or even upgraded Flash artwork) and have backglasses made, and wham! A rethemed brand new machine for say $600-800 parts plus your labour.

Could be a winner.

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Not trying to discourage any remakes at all but the most popular tables with the most potential for sales will be the best sales candidates. Vid I have always agreed with you 100%. But I hope they put out a Firepower overlay.

I totally disagree with that statement.The most popular titles have playfields readily available. Other top titles have playfields in process of some kind. The "A" games demand big money and I don't believe many owners will place a Hardtop on them. This product screams for all those titles that do not have playfields in a pipeline somewhere. Even games where the repo playfields are gone such asFathom,Flash Gordon,Taxi can be made.

This product would be perfect for so many Gottlieb titles that won't ever have reproduction playfields made. Black Hole, Haunted House, bunch of 80b's like Robowars, TX sector, etc.

The nice thing is that if the 100 hours of labor to generate the art holds true (and maybe improves with experience) I could see a lot of machines being covered with this product.

Is it really that hard to cast your vote without being rude? Who cares if a game had repro PFs done in the past? How many did CPR make? How many more of that title exist? Even then, how many people would be better off with this option compared to a full playfield swap? This is a lot easier, and a pretty cool idea.

Couldnt agree more, Cpr did firepower a while ago and are gone and hear of people looking for them all the time.

There are definitely many titles that I would not want to invest all the time and money needed to perform a playfield swap, no matter how available the repro playfield was. This method sounds perfect for such titles.

Space Station should be on the list, none out there and no one wants to take it on for a refurb.

I started a wish list back on post #5