The rules to that game actually arent bad. Its a fin pin. But dear god the art design for that pin was ill conceived. And id rather claw my own eyes out than look at that backglass.

In fact, i think the backglass is so offensive that i expect a moderator to drop in and lock this thread at any moment.

In before the lock!

I agree that hardbody is a great "bang for your buck" Mine is set up in my garage and gets as much play as my A-games downstairs. The flex saves can really give you a fun rhythm in play. Id like to retheme mine to a forbidden planet. Ive been so busy that Ive not gotten far but I do have the translite in and even that helps. I also made an alternate translite for it some time ago and I always thought it had a lot more sex appeal than the factory.

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That looks and sounds great man. Hope you can find the time.

I'm a Hardbody fan. I might be the only one that likes looking at Rachel McLish. She was in the Pumping Iron 2 faux documentary. It's on Youtube if you want to watch it. I also like the playfield art with gridlines and pastel colors. I've had the chance to buy a few but the timing never worked out. I'm a 6803 fan so maybe someday I can put her next to my City Slicker.

Did you have any flickering with your LEDs?

Dmbjunky i have a 6803 dungeons and dragons with leds and have no flickering. You shouldnt have an issue with your hardbody

I've had a Hardbody for a couple of months now, and finally got it all working...well almost. Just the usual, flipper rebuilds, rubber and lights.

Couple of questions if anyone can help:

1) The upper flippers have the long shaft, but use the normal flipper bushings. The result is that the flippers are "wobbly" at the top. I can move them by hand maybe a quarter inch in all directions. This makes for an inconsistent shot, especially with the right upper flipper. I'm wondering if there's supposed to be a longer shaft bearing or something that stabilizes the shaft. I've looked for parts explosions for this assembly and can't find any, or for BMX, which I assume would be the same.

2) There is a "flap" that is used for the hinge for the ramps. The one on the left has cracks, but still works (for now). It looks like it is riveted in place. Anyone know where to get a replacement for this and how to change it out?

@lpeters

You idea for a Pandemic conversion is awesome. That might be my favorite board game. Using the "stations" for the four diseases is a great fit and pure genius.

The parts manual shows all flippers use the same 0017-00042-0413 bushing. Maybe yours are worn and need replacement?

As far as I can tell, they don't make a distinction between upper and lower at all?

You might be right, I didn't change the bushing since it's really hard to get at. Do your upper flippers feel solid, or can you move them around (like make a small circle at the base)? Maybe that's just how they are, IDK. It's the only two level pin I own. Flippers on my other single level ones can't move at all (except to flip of course).

@lpeters

I assume you're essentially talking artwork - cabinet, playfield, plastics and backglass. I've programmed in assembler in the past, and I've been thinking about making some mods to pinball game logic in general, but that's a substantial project unless you've done it before or can get your hands on some commented code, so relabeling the existing logic as you describe makes sense.

I'm guessing everyone on this site has seen this, but just in case, here's a guy who does a nice job on customizations...

http://gameroomblog.com/guides/custom-pinball-machine

To do what I think you're talking about, he says it takes him ~100 hours over 3 months calendar time. Of course, he uses CAD in his work, so he has a head start.

Besides the time, there's the cost. If several people went in together, I bet the cost of printing the decals, backglass etc would be somewhat cheaper per person, but it could still end up easily over $500/game, but I don't have any experience with that.

Thing is for me, other than the backglass, I don't really mind the artwork. It's just that I think your idea is really good. If you're reading this and never played the Pandemic board game, you should give it a try.

Finally, I wonder if there are possible copyright problems if this was done as a group, even non-for-profit. I guess calling it something other than Pandemic might fix that? And creating your own artwork.

I don't own a Hardbody but I'm familiar with 6803 games and own a SS, and excessive flipper shaft play is not normal. You are correct that the parts manual doesn't differentiate upper and lower flippers but it does call them "flipper assy-single switch left," "flipper assy-single switch right," "flipper assy-double switch left," and "flipper assy-double switch right." The single switch flippers are the uppers, and the double switch flippers are the lowers which can be seen on the cabinet schematic.

I've seen that in the parts manual for Hardbody. I'm guessing that these are sort of generic parts assemblies, since my uppers aren't exactly like the ones shown for "single". They have the expected EOS, but they also have and an additional switch like a lane change switch. The contacts are smaller than an EOS, so it's not carrying high voltage, but I haven't hunted down what they do (there's no lanes in a Hardbody).

Anyway, I think I'll take your advice about changing out the bushing. Couldn't hurt. It will be a while, though since I'm going out of town for a while. I'll let you know if that helps.

Can you take a picture of your flipper assemblies from the bottom with this extra switch?

Did you put those in the wash with a new red shirt?

Ive got a fully populated playfield and cabinet if anyone is interested. Might be willing to part it out as well.

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Hardbody pin owner bump.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/giving-a-hardbody-a-workout-to-remove-the-fat

Almost 100% complete, will be looking to sell it in early 2017.

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Looking for an original backglass and a flipper bat if anyone has these.

Ive got a backglass. Not sure how to ship them but if you are interested pm me. Some minor wear around score area from what I recall.

Just got my Hardbody and she is pretty... Cab is in really, really great condition, and the backglass looks great too... I do have a few bits of wear on the playfield which cheeses me off... And one of the bits is the ladies arm... One plastic is slightly damaged, but all in all I'd say the condition is near mint. I will work on restoring and fixing it to 100% mint... I want to also put a custom vinyl wrap on the cabinet as I just think that the cab art is boring and stinks and really should feature more of Mclish. YEP! I WANT MORE OF HER! This was a dream theme for me and this pin is never leaving my collection. Today I start my custom rule cards, and Im currently talking to another forum member to get plastic scans so I can repair and actually create a new Ab station plastic... I mean why show a guys abs there when you can show some pretty ripped ladies abs... Seems like a wasted opportunity but maybe they deemed it TOO sexy for the 80s.
I do have a play question though... The ball when I'm playing really seems to fly around and jump and bounce all over the place. I mean really wicked leaps and jumps... Is this normal... Or do you think I need to adjust the playing surface and make it more sloped??? I have no idea about the setups and I just did it by eye... I can always break out the level... But, I was just curious as the ball bounces like a rabbit a lot. Fast and lots of jumping. But, to me that adds to the fun of the game.

All my 6803 games have wild crazy balls. Gets the heart pumping. Love my hardbody. Can't wait to see how yours comes out.

Does anyone have any playfield scans. I need a good scan of the girl with the dumbbells on the upper playfield. Part of her forearm is worn due to bad flipper setup... Not from me. All previous owner. Anyway I'd like a nice high resolution image before i attempt to do the touch up...

Hardbody (like Space Jam) is a cheap game millennials would go nuts over (if and when they ever start buying pins)

Ya'll could be sitting on a gold mine!

I had mine (after a little restoration) for several months, before it sold, and never got to the second tourney.
I would own it again!

Well, I like that there are 3 main ways you can get an extra ball in this game and also depending on how you have it set up, you can get more for hitting the replays, which is how I have mine setup. I get an extra ball at like 1,200,000 and then another one at 1,800,000. But, I like that if you hit the three drop targets down that grunt and then the wall button, you get an extra ball. And I like the loop up top for the extra ball, and then I believe you can get an extra ball once the ramps go up and you complete enough loops...
And I think if you set it up a certain way there are no limits to how many extra balls you can get, so long as you get them on each ball. Still not an easy feat but a fun one.... My only gripe about Hardbody, because I LOVE THE THEME, my only gripe is it has no multiball... Man this game would really rock with multiball. And they could make it a new feature. Like the woman does heavy breathing and the weights are really clanking... Could make it fun... But, oh well...

Hey Diospinball where did you find your game? Was it the one on the Craigslist in Detroit?

No, it was from Omaha. I found it on Craigslist... But, to be honest... I'm a bit upset with the purchase. The flippers I still need to fix, and the playfield wear is just a bummer. Only 3 places, one very, very minor, one minor, and one one the upper playfield girls forearm... I think I can fix all of them... Just don't have the time right now... Also, some screws are missing in the plastics, one plastic has a minor crack, and lastly, he used screws sometimes instead of the plastic caps... Just a lazy refurbish I think... But, I got a decent price for the game, and I do LOVE the hardbody...
There is one for sale for a decent price in Arizona... 1,400... They wouldn't come down in the price for me, but that was a few months back... Might come down in price. I paid 1,200 for mine, and I think that's a fair price...
I would love to find a Raven for sale, and complete my 80s tough gals pinball collection. But, not going to pay over 1k for a Raven.

Hi, can anyone post a couple pics of the inside of the backbox?
Had to take mine apart for transport, not booting correctly now, I want to double check everything.

whew 8 months old... looking for alt translites if anyone knows of any

Ministry of Pinball. Site is down for maintenance.

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I would love a translate that would be in the same art style as the play field.
The ministry version is just.... too much.

I suspect you would have to make your own backglass, if you dont want MoP's porn one LOL

I was "this" close to offering my file. I'm missing the very middle!

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I would be perfectly happy to just remove the pictures in the translite, keep everything else and just paste inn the drawings on the playfield.

I did create this these when toying with a retheme idea back in 2016

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Hardbody must be the most 'almost rethemed' pinball machine in the world! I have heard four or five people who were contemplating a retheme. @atari_daze, was each station supposed to be the making of a burger??

#hardbody is upstairs at Hotrods Old Vail in the Top Fuel Lounge here in Tucson. It is not getting a lot of play - the lounge is only open on Friday and Saturday evenings and for private parties. New players don't understand the 'Flex Save' feature, but once I tell them they seem to think that is is cool and, indeed, it is.

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Seeing Atari_Daze posting here got me to thinking; a dangerous activity I must note. Atari_Daze was kind enough to make some 'Station 3' plastics for me. I ordered three but got five! I want to pass his kindness on to other Hardbody owners. They look great and will be a big improvement if yours is cracked or broken.

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The first two Pinsiders to PM me and let me know you want one will get one. First come, first served. Please, Hardbody owners only!