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Harbor Freight 500 lb lift table, release valve broken. PROBLEM SOLVED

By mg81

11 years ago


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    #1 11 years ago

    So I picked up the standard yellow Harbor Freight 500 lb lift table and over all it seems very nice, except I can't get the ram to lift. I pump it and nothing.

    I did the whole remove the fill plug purge thing that was listed in the manual and I filled the ram up with extra fluid until it ran out of the fill hole.

    What I am thinking is that the release "button" is stuck into the ram body. But I am not sure I don't know how far it is supposed to stick out when it is in the closed, ready to lift position. I have tried to pry the release button out of the ram, but it is not easily moving, so I am not sure what it is supposed to look like when it is released. Sorry, the lift table is 20 minutes away so I can't take a photo to show what position mine is in.

    When I lift the table it goes up easily and when I let it go it drops back into position quickly and I hear fluid flowing in the ram. That leads me to believe the release button/valve is stuck open. I just really don't want to tear the release valve apart if that is not the problem area. A photo of that area of a working lift table and any ideas would really be appreciated.

    Sadly I live a few hours from the Harbor Freight store or I would exchange it, I picked it up over holiday travels.

    Thanks.

    #2 11 years ago

    I had the same problem and went through the 800 diagnosis with them. I was told this has never happened before. I ended up screwing up an afternoon and returning it. The new one is working great.They were nice about the exchange never even asking for the receipt.Good luck.

    #3 11 years ago

    Yeah, I would just take it back. But like I said no store close by me so I am willing to spend sometime trying to get it working. I just don't want to be chasing the wrong thing and I am hoping a photo will let me know if something is obviously wrong.

    #4 11 years ago

    Mine did this too, I loosened the cable completely and worked backwards until both raise and lower worked. PITA, for something that should have worked out of the box.

    #5 11 years ago

    Same here.

    Turns out the release valve wasn't seated properly.

    Re-seated it and it works great now.

    Give it a try.

    #6 11 years ago

    Could you please explain what you did to re-seat the valve?

    Did you remove the big hex nut that the release button is in the middle of and get into the whole valve assembly that I see an exploded diagram of in the manual or did you do something with it still assembled?

    And what is the philips head screw doing on the end of the release button? Is it some kind of adjustment or just a replaceable "press" area so the actual parts precision parts don't get messed up from being pressed on?

    #7 11 years ago

    Here is a photo of my table valve release button. This is with the release handle fully released. From the looks of it I am guessing it is stuck into the ram.

    Can anyone tell me what their working one looks like and what I need to do to get mine working. I have tried to gently pry the button up (I have even tried more than gently).

    Do I just unscrew the hex nut part and have a bunch of fluid and parts come out at me?

    Thanks

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    #8 11 years ago

    The plunger does tend to sit higher and tight against the bracket on mine. Unfortunately I can't advise on how to make adjustments to this as I didn't need to make any. It would make sense that you can't raise the table if the plunger is stuck down.

    Have you tried prying it up?

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    #9 11 years ago

    Hi,

    Sorry it took so long to get back to you...

    I'm pretty sure I just pulled out the valve (J37 in pic) and pushed it back in. If not, unscrew,the phillips head screw. Some fluid might leak out.

    You can see how it goes in to the piston in the attached pic.

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    #10 11 years ago

    Thanks for the photos everyone.

    I have already tried removing the philips head screw, J38. Nothing happens, seems like it might just be a consumable wear point so the actual piston does not get worn/mushroomed over.

    I will try extra hard to pull out the piston part J37. But barring that and anyone elses recommendations I guess I will remove J34 and let the mess of springs, washers, ball bearing and fluid go all over the place and hope I can get J37 to pop up free.

    The exploded diagram does not really explain what retains J37 I am guessing it is larger/has a rim on the inside and that keeps it from popping out.

    Any other suggestions or experiences would be greatly appreciated. It will probably be a few days until I can find the time to do this, I want to do it all in one session.

    #11 11 years ago

    I think it just presses in. The "O" ring keeps it in place.

    Try pushing it in instead of pulling it out.

    #12 11 years ago

    Hi Mg81
    Funny just had to fix mine tonight, you probably have dirt or metal stuck in it if its not popping back up. Mine would lower very slowly even with a load. Here is what I did:
    1) Lift up the unit until you can set the safety stops.
    2)use a 15/16 socket and remove th6)e valve from the unit. (oil will not even leak out)
    3) diassemble and clean the valve.
    4) The phillips head screw does nothing, but the piece it goes into needs removed and cleaned.(just pull it straight out)
    5) at the bottom of the valve remove the c-clip for the screen and then the c-clip for the brass
    button. You might have to tap the valve on a piece of wood to get the brass button out.
    6) clean with brake clean, electrical cleaner etc. dry and re-assemble.
    Option 2 return to store.... I should have done this, but like you its a drive and I would rather
    fix it then go through the hassle to return it. (sorry if there is misspellings, couple of beers
    in a hurry to go to bed got to work in the early morning.)
    Good Luck
    Jim
    Pm me if you need to talk and i will send you my cell.

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    #13 11 years ago
    Quoted from Liftserv:

    Mine would lower very slowly even with a load.

    I'm not sure if its by design or not, but this is actually how mine works - and is favorable. When under load, the table will drop rather slowly and smoothly. Once the load is removed from the table, the table will drop a bit more quickly when I press the handle again.

    #14 11 years ago

    Problem solved, table works correctly. Glad I got to use a 20% off coupon when I purchased the table, this helped to make the extra work to make the table work more bearable.

    So what was going on was extra paint got onto the release button and when it was pressed in the paint cause the button to bind up and stick inside. It was in really tight, I had to grab the button tightly in the jaws of a vice and wiggle/turn with a wrench the whole valve assemble to get it to come free.

    I would not recommend trying to insert a drift into the opposite side and drive a stuck button out. The rod that you would be hitting on the button is very skinny and you would likely damage one of the sealing surfaces inside of the valve. You can chew up the outside of the release button in the jaws of a vice and it won't matter, it will only look crappy.

    After I got the button free I hand tightened it into the chuck on a drill press and very carefully took the paint off with a fine cut file followed by 600 grit sandpaper to remove all of the paint to prevent future binding.

    You do NOT have to remove the whole valve assemble like I did. You can just grab onto the button and pull it out of the ram. As previously mentioned it is only held in by the friction of the O-ring.

    But I did find random metal shavings inside of my valve assembly when I took it apart so I felt it was time well spent to prevent future problems.

    As Liftserv mentioned 15/16" socket and the whole assemble screws right out, not much fluid came out with it, less than a teaspoon.

    Here are photos of the taken apart valve and a close up of the release "button" that I end up filing down.

    Thanks again for the help everyone.

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    #15 11 years ago

    Very helpful. Thanks for the follow up.

    #16 11 years ago
    Quoted from wizzardz:

    I'm not sure if its by design or not, but this is actually how mine works - and is favorable. When under load, the table will drop rather slowly and smoothly. Once the load is removed from the table, the table will drop a bit more quickly when I press the handle again.

    Mine now works like this also. At first it would only lower very slowly.

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