So I picked up a project Jungle Lord a month or so ago. Playfield has some wear, cab needs work, etc. As much as JL has the absolute best art package ever made....well, it doesn't, but it's still fun as hell to play. I was batting around ideas for a retheme to take a stab at one...and I've settled on the epic John Carpenter classic.

Working on some designs for the playfield and plastics currently, and my bud's working on reprogramming the sound board and making new ROM's. Another friend of mine is a storyboard / scene artist out in LA, and he's planning on helping with the PF and cab artwork.

Going to start the JL tear down hopefully this weekend and get this party underway. Always open to input or opinions. Some music for attract mode...

Donor game...

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I know man…right? As soon as I posted the thread I couldn’t help myself. I went back out to the garage, took off the glass and dove in, at least to get started. I need to get Justin some scans of the plastics anyway.

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She kinda looks like Michael Myers already.

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Are you kidding? I was going to frame this thing and make it the centerpiece of my entire house. LOL.

Seriously though...sure Skip. I’m sure we can figure it out. It does have a tiny bit of flaking, but not bad compared to a bunch I’ve seen of this title. I can bring it to York if you want it.

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And awesome. I’ll keep that in mind as I get through this one. The inside of this one is pretty clean.

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Yeah man. Already done, and my other one is already sold and gone. I think I did that the night after I got home from your house.

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Shit! Skip do you have the lower flipper assemblies, or at least both brackets? It looks like both of the stoppers on these are busted with chunks missing down near the coil lugs.E548D713-E529-490C-82D0-38B2EB23E38A (resized).jpeg
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If anybody needs plastics let me know. The bottom right sling has a chip out of it, and the left main tiger plastic has a crack and a chip off the top left corner, but the rest are really nice.

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Definitely, thanks Alex. It’s going to be a process. I’m anxious to get it moving though. You and your pop will be down here trying to pick it up when I’m done. Make sure you bring the pinball armor.

Plastics, rubbers and ramps off.

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Cool. Let me know how much you want for them and if you can bring them to York.

Definitely a cool pin to retheme. Multilevel games are always fun.

If Skip doesn’t take it, you’re welcome to it.

Just trying to come up with ideas. He and I are apparently both deep in thought.
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Of course, that goes without saying. In the words of Barney Stinson...challenge accepted.

Although it would be much easier to incorporate if I were doing a Trading Places or True Lies retheme.

Bottom PF surface is stripped other than mechs and a few metal posts. Two of my ramps have some dings at the bottom that it looks like somebody tried to straighten. Anybody have a nice set I could grab or swap out?

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Done, and kudos for the great price. I’ll let you know if I come across anything else I need. Thanks man.

Definitely. You mean the Vampire I restored and took to A-town?

As for the Stern Drac, I had a good example, but his PF was nicer than mine and cabs were about equal. So I swapped out my shooter hive, coin door, plastics and my backglass and shopped it with Titan rubbers and LEDs. Sold another Pinsider the leftover game for a great price, which was still a pretty decent example.

I don’t think any of us did. A lot of people don’t even realize that John Carpenter transposed the music from some basic chords/notes that his father taught him on the piano when he was a kid, and he even composed and played the music for the movie himself.

With only a $300,000 budget, he didn’t have many choices. The movie went on to gross over $50 million after release, even though it had flopped and was heavily criticized in the first few weeks.

Your Jaws retheme was part of my inspiration to attempt one myself. You did a phenomenal job with that game.

I’m going to take my time though, because I want to do it right. I might be hitting you up for some advice and input if you don’t mind.

Maybe the first and second. I’m trying to keep it as original as possible. Don’t want to dive into the latter movies, or the Rob Zombie remakes.

Man, when you’re searching for ideas...people really put a lot of time into analytics for cinematic murder.

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Thanks man. Still have some tweaks to make on that one, but should be bringing it to York. I just moved it and set it back up earlier today.

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Unfortunately I did not, but that sounds awesome. And classy on the nod. Now I’m going to look for one of those posters to hang in the game room next to this thing when it’s done.

I just shot this guy an email to see if I could use some of his art cuts for the backglass.

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I was thinking the bottom one has a little more meat to it, but like the art in both. It’s just going to be a section of it.

Too much to add a pinball with a little blood on it and take out the six-year-old Mike? (Pardon the crappy mock up and sketching. I’m at a party, had a few beverages, and I’m working on an iPhone) Kind of like a horror TOM? Haha

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I can honestly say I didn’t know that was a William Shatner mask until a few years ago.

Back to brainstorming over pins and a brew.

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Definitely. That’s another reason I want to limit it to the first two movies, if not just the first. I don’t like that they changed his mask later on. I think we all skipped over Halloween III, as that had absolutely nothing to do with the first two movies.

I’m definitely having an actual backglass made. I was thinking of emailing the guy over at BGresto, but I know they do not do mirroring. Shay does, so maybe he would be able to help me out or point me in a direction. Open to any other suggestions or recommendations on this front.

Cool. I’ll reach out to him, and thanks for the info. I played your Ash v. Evil Dead at Pintastic last year. Awesome job on that game.

Tear down continues...

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90% depopulated and initial wipe down done of lower PF. Surprisingly, most of the inserts are actually pretty level and not cupped. Almost ready to trace and grab a couple scans.

For the center bonus advance inserts, I’m thinking a knife at the top (#10), then spell out HALLOWEEN from 9 down to 1. It’s really the only space where I could spell it out on this game.

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Just ordered this poster for inspiration.

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Too much to try to incorporate this, or too cheesy? Or maybe on a smaller scale?

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I manipulated the movie poster, and this is going to be the decal in the center of the apron. I’m going to move the light socket or use an LED strip underneath and drill it out / open it up so it’s illuminated.

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Definitely wouldn’t mind. I was going to have two made for myself anyway (in the event one would flake or worse break at some point) so commissioning/ordering 3 might make them slightly cheaper.

That was my thinking...the knife has to be in there somehow. Just don't want it to be tacky. The mask and closet, other than on the playfield art and BG, is going to be a challenge.

That does sound like a good idea… Maybe have the closet doors where the flippers are entering the upper playfield from the middle ramp? Upper drops could be victim stab attempts.

Come on Lloyd! You and I think alike. Already on it brotha. Found this, but I may fabricate something with more detail and more creepy. I’m going to reach out to Modfather too.

I’d like to put an image with her lying on the bed in that scene on one of the plastics too.

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Creepy. I like it. That’s at least another plastic design.

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Even though the temptation is certainly there on a retheme, I don’t want to start throwing too many action figures in the game. I was thinking one of Mike and perhaps LED the eyes and knife he’ll be holding.

If I had 50 grand to spend on this, I would have him come up out of the playfield during slasher mode like the War Monger on IM.

Damn. With all these GIFs I’m starting to feel like I really need to convert this thing to an LCD/LED display.

That scene was freaky as shit when I was a kid...still morbidly creepy with the slow head turn.

JC = John Carpenter. Pure happenstance that the donor game has nearly similar initials.

As I think I said earlier in the thread, I’m limiting this retheme to the first two movies, and most likely just the first. Keepin it real...real original.

$10k by Xmas!! Haha (meaning that’s what I’ll be out of pocket)

True. And a full NOS Goldeneye is worthy of that effort IMO.

My buddy was over looking at the PF set up on JL to help with some design ideas, and I started playing around with some sounds on the synth. Videoed the friend in from LA, and didn’t even know he was filming this. Too funny, had to upload it.

That actually sounds pretty cool…you just made my BOM $51k on this pin.

Nice...definitely post a pic or two. My sister lives in the valley (Castaic), so I’ll have to plan a trip down there next time I visit CA.

Awesome. Even the mask aged LOL. Maybe I’ll make two games and ask him if he wants one.

I didn’t know about those either. I’ll have to check them out.

Good watch and some good info.

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That is awesome. Preliminary evaluation by my five-year-old daughter…Michael is freaking her out. She loves horror things, vampires and Halloween is her fav holiday, and plays my BSD all the time. She’ll come around.

Playing around with some ideas for the apron. Going to make new decals in a different font, and get it powder coated for the base color. Just tinkering for now. Is orange too much, or should I go with black?

I would go with a slightly darker orange than this. And keep in mind it looks a little blank without some other art I plan to incorporate.

I might also reach out to the guys at Tilt Graphics to see if they can make me a custom one as a continuation / incorporation of the playfield art.

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And I think I’m going to turn the Magna Save into “Orange Button Activates Save Laurie” or “Save Strode”

That’s more what I was thinking after looking at it for a while too. I think I’ll go black with orange for the lettering, and maybe a mix of stripes.

And I actually like what you posted better as a decal for the center.

Not sure yet, seems like DMD with custom animations would be much harder than uploading some vid clips to a Raspberry Pi or similar tech. I’m definitely going to need some input and assistance when I get to that point.

Just picked up my customized JL instruction manual from Kinko’s.

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That’s a virtual table? Looks pretty cool.

Very cool and appreciated.

Do you think I’m able to transplant a Jungle Lord into a WPC cabinet? Lloyd?

I’m talking about transplanting all of the guts into the head and cabinet. I have a CV cab and MMr head out in my garage. For this Halloween retheme, it would be great to have more space to add to the playfield (ie. butcher knife, perhaps raise some of the plastics w/ hex posts), and to make it easier for display conversion.

As long as the harnesses would reach where they have to, don’t think it would be that bad. Maybe I am fooling myself. Just an idea.

Starting to get a lot of ideas. Thanks for the input...always appreciated.

I’ve heard it is. I’ll have to check it out. Finally able to start thinking about this thing again after getting my ass kicked at the office all week.

Screwing around with some more apron ideas while watching the game. I’m going to send it out to see if it can be screenprinted, and have two made.

After seeing more of what the actual cut outs and layout would be, I’m kind of thinking maybe to go with orange but darker, with silver font for lettering. Black would have orange lettering, but still seems kind of bland. Thoughts?

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Thinking about what I’m considering & gathering for the lower playfield design, black might work a little better.

Plus the black mock up is kind of dull in color, and the final will have a base black glossy finish.

It seems the consensus is in. I agree, especially because I’m much more agreeable after two glasses of this.

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I was planning on illuminating the center Michael decal and maybe the custom instruction cards / free play cards. Backlighting the writing might be tough, or tough and very pricy. That's a lot of cut outs.

Or maybe convert one of the acrylic aprons and just apply decals, and backlight the whole thing?

^^ That’s a good suggestion. Maybe I’ll try that out.

I do like the idea. Maybe run some movie clips with a Raspberry Pi?

So Doc, how much you want to combine these ideas and put a killer apron together for this thing? Haha

Took a quick glance, but I’ll look in more detail when I have time later this week. Thanks for the info and link. Much appreciated.

That’s awesome. You’ll have to PM me your itinerary with addresses. I should be heading out that way in a few months. Nice touch representing with the Solid State tee.

You were probably creeping the neighbors the hell out. LOL.

Very cool. Thanks for the walk-through and narration. I’ll have to check that out next time I’m in the area.

My buddy just sent me this link. Anybody ever use this board? Sounds like it’s easily reprogrammable.

https://www.pinball-dreams.com/flipper-pinball-flipperautomaten-modding-shop/verschiedenes/all-in-one-nw7.html

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Save that stencil and send it to me so I can use it for the cabinet.

Very cool.

That’s a cool idea. Definitely in on the knife handle as a plunger.

Hopefully should be getting back to tackling this thing this week.

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Should have time to get back to this thing again after the holiday. Picked up this hilarious shirt last night while Xmas shopping to get me back in the zone...
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Damn...I should have flown out to see my sister in October. That would have been an awesome show to catch.

That Homecoming shirt is awesome! I’ve been real busy with work and a few other things, so I haven’t had enough time to get back to tackling this project. Feel like a slacker. Plan is to jump back on it in the next couple of weeks.

Kev, thanks for posting and putting this back on my brain. Made me reach out to my buddy who said he should have some sketches of final PF art in the next couple weeks.

Good news: That put fire under my ass and made me finally drag this thing into the gameroom, where it’s gotta be in the winter to really dig in. Now that Justin’s moving on the PF, need to finish stripping and get on the cab work.

Bad news: Back side of the cab and rear bottom edge is much rougher than I thought. Looks like it may have gotten some minor-moderate moisture damage at some point in its life. Might have to be totally redone.

Replacing a full wall of a cab is not something I’ve tackled before...

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It’s a shame, because the rest of the cab is in pretty damn good shape. A little bit of chipping up by the back box grate too.

I think it is still usable for this project. Looks like it’s time to up my carpentry experience and knowledge base so it’s done the right way.

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And decided not to go with anything drastic...like orange. Going to keep this game dark. Gunmetal gray for the legs and armor. Got the legs back yesterday.

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Very cool. Shoot me a message in our PM thread with the info. I’d definitely like to take a look at what prints they have.

Ramps Skip brought to York for me cleaned up nicely...better condition than the ones I had. I think I’m going to powder them, some of the other PF metal and armor in Illusion Cherry, same as my Vampire. Give it that dark red blood look to match some of the playfield colors.

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Finally! Cab art draft should be done next week, and PF the week after. So time to jump back on cab disassembly and get this thing moving.

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