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Haggis Pinball defeats dimpling and pooling with sledgehammer test

By FalconPunch

4 years ago


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    #15 4 years ago
    Quoted from Viggin900:

    So a few guys figured this out in less than 18 months with no experience and how long has Stern been in business?

    About three months actually

    Truth be told, there's not a lot that is truly new in pinball. There has been various versions of what we've designed, used on pinball machines in the past. We've just taken modern materials, worked with what we thought would be the best and most achievable outcomes, made a couple of enhancements and brought it all together.

    #16 4 years ago
    Quoted from FalconPunch:

    My understanding is that even though games have been ordered - they where being held back to make sure all production versions have this new playfield method. So yes, this is for production

    Yup - all production machines will have this playfield

    #17 4 years ago
    Quoted from RatShack:

    That rolling test rig is interesting. I'd like to see a rig that uses a flipper to launch the ball so it's skidding and spinning across the surface instead of gently rolling.
    Must be a newer generation plexiglass vs what Bally used for Elektra.

    I feel a new test coming up

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    #20 4 years ago

    Thanks to Cary for posting the review
    I clarified a couple of points on the YouTube clip, so thought I would add them here as well:

    Hi Cary - thanks for making the video - much appreciated

    Just to clarify a couple of points:
    1. Acrylic layer is 4.5mm (so a little under a 1/4 inch)
    2. The plywood layer is 9mm, so I end up at a standard thickness playfield so standard mechs still fit
    2. The test rig at the time I filmed that was at 504,000 passes (with a small double tap at the end of one pass, so that section probably double that) - it's now currently over 800,000 and there is no wear. That mark you can see is actually a dust line and cleans off with some IPA - I probably should have cleaned it first but I did literally take it off while filming. Interestingly, the ball spends the majority of it's time rolling up and down the middle, the vibrations sometimes shim it to one side, which of course it decided to do when I filmed it

    Cheers,
    Damian

    #21 4 years ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Hey Haggis, I’m out of the loop but I’m very glad you guys are still trucking along. I really don’t pay attention to most pinball upstarts because it’s always seemed to head the same way...
    So for someone who’s out of the loop.
    What games are you producing, how close are you to cranking out games and how many have you designed?
    Will you be producing them or going through an existing manufacturer?

    Just one game currently: Celts

    Will have some production games at TPF and at least one at MCG, so come along and have a flip if you're there. Production is currently to order, and we'll be firing up the line once we get back from the shows

    #23 4 years ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    I truly hope as many people who are currently in the position to buy new games order and support you guys!
    Do you have any dream themes you would like to work on/create in the future? Actually don’t answer that we don’t want them being snapped up

    Thanks and yes, and don't worry, I wont

    #29 4 years ago

    Thanks all

    @noob-a-tron new playfield, retiring undefeated is a good idea
    @Dr-pin we are using a scratch resistant acrylic - comfortably stood up to a steel wool scratch test

    #60 4 years ago

    Thanks for all the responses all

    Some really good questions and points to be discussed. I'll shoot another video this weekend and we'll try to go through and respond to them all

    Cheers,
    Damian

    #98 4 years ago

    Hi all - thanks for the commentary

    I'm planning on making another video this weekend to respond to a lot of the questions that have been asked, as well as go a little more into the method of manufacture.

    Cheers

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    #102 4 years ago

    Hi Rensh,

    To clarify, the three options are (from you post above):

    1) classic wood-only playfield as we all now
    2) wood + acryl with anti-scratch layer
    3) wood + acryl + clearcoat.

    So option 3 isn't using the scratch resistant coating, just standard acrylic with a clear coat. Option three was for those that didn't want to play on an acrylic top, but wanted to retain a clear coat feel/finish, without the worry of dimpling, etc..

    The prototype we had a Chicago Expo (the video still you posted), was a traditional playfield, so has our faceted inserts installed. Both of the Hybrid options (HySR and HyCC) will also have the same inserts installed, just via a different mounting method.

    Cheers,
    Damian

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