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Haggis Pinball next title is Fathom Revisited

By chooch

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago

Kaneda reporting this in association with TNT Amusements. Supposedly they have the rights and are making a 2.0 version.

Update 4/26/21 - Confirmed - Manufacturing is scheduled to begin on July 1st

Classic Edition: ~$7,360 USD | $9,500 AUD

Mermaid Edition: ~$8,900 USD | $11,500 AUD (limited to 250 machines)

More info from TWIP

https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/haggis-pinball-announces-fathom-revisted-in-depth-overview-of-the-machine-editions-features-rules-plus-an-interview-with-haggis-pinball/

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#2 1 year ago

Smart choice if true Fathom is a really fun game.

#3 1 year ago

What ballys from 1981 should be remade?

February 1981 - Flash Gordon
April 1981 - Eight Ball Deluxe
June 1981 - Embryon
June 1981 - Fireball II
August 1981 - Fathom
September 1981 - Medusa
October 1981 - Centaur
December 1981 - Elektra

#4 1 year ago

Add music and sound and it could be cool!

#5 1 year ago

Hoping it’s a true remake and not a remaster.

Keep the playfield but maybe add a 2.0 code option.

#6 1 year ago

Is this one Thiel has been working on?

#8 1 year ago

This is the kind of title that Humungus is talking about, Fast, flowey
and no spinning hats with lights!

#10 1 year ago

Could be interesting to see how it all comes together

#11 1 year ago

I'll pay 6 grand+ for a new in box Fathom.
Easy money for whomever will do it.
I'll take a Flash Gordon, Eight Ball Deluxe and Centaur also.

Message from the Bally Freeeek Kingdom.

#12 1 year ago
Quoted from chooch:

That says JAWS. What's your point.

That it turns into a Fathom thread

#13 1 year ago
Quoted from HighProtein:

What ballys from 1981 should be remade?
February 1981 - Flash Gordon
April 1981 - Eight Ball Deluxe
June 1981 - Embryon
June 1981 - Fireball II
August 1981 - Fathom
September 1981 - Medusa
October 1981 - Centaur
December 1981 - Elektra

Fathom

#14 1 year ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

That it turns into a Fathom thread

This was to give credit to Kaneda for reporting it first. And if he is wrong then haters can get off saying he was wrong again since they never give him credit when he is right.

#15 1 year ago

Supposedly multiple trim levels with the top of the line being the Mermaid addition.

#16 1 year ago

It’s rumored that this is just the first in a series of remakes coming out. Potentially 5 titles will be remade, with different trim levels. It would be nice to see updates such as rgb lighting and modern electronics as well as updated code

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#17 1 year ago
Quoted from chooch:

This was to give credit to Kaneda for reporting it first.

Well...if it is Fathom, well done to Kaneda for spoiling the release of a bunch of down-to-earth guys who have risked everything and busted their butts for a year during the pandemic to get a new game out...I guess

#18 1 year ago

Such a rad idea!! Glad for Haggis and I wish the best for them. Exciting times
to love pinball.

#19 1 year ago

Thank you TNT and Kaneda for the tip, I almost bought something stupid

#20 1 year ago
Quoted from solarvalue:

Well...if it is Fathom, well done to Kaneda for spoiling the release of a bunch of down-to-earth guys who have risked everything and busted their butts for a year during the pandemic to get a new game out...I guess

Wow, dramatic much.

It’s fun to speculate and predict. That’s half of these threads. It builds excitement. The true release brings photos, explanations, video etc. It’s ALL exciting. You make it sound like he destroyed their last year of hard work. Pinball is fun.

Love the idea and I am pumped to see it and hear about the whole release.

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#21 1 year ago
Quoted from solarvalue:

Well...if it is Fathom, well done to Kaneda for spoiling the release of a bunch of down-to-earth guys who have risked everything and busted their butts for a year during the pandemic to get a new game out...I guess

In what way is anything spoiled? If true, so we know it's Fathom a day early. Doesn't ruin anything, and it gets people talking, and maybe even gets people more interested in Haggis' announcement than they would have been otherwise.

Plus, I for one am tired of all this damn secrecy around upcoming pinball releases. The secrecy only benefits the manufacturers. I'd love to know what the upcoming titles for all the companies were. It'd be great to plan my pinball purchases. Pipedream, I know.

#23 1 year ago

This definitely could be interesting if done right. Hope they go the TNA route with next level lights and music.

#24 1 year ago

I hope he is right, this could be incredible. Excited for the reveal!

#25 1 year ago
Quoted from chooch:

This was to give credit to Kaneda for reporting it first...

Well then the other thread would be proving that people reported it a day before he did

#26 1 year ago
Quoted from HighProtein:

What ballys from 1981 should be remade?
February 1981 - Flash Gordon
April 1981 - Eight Ball Deluxe
June 1981 - Embryon
June 1981 - Fireball II
August 1981 - Fathom
September 1981 - Medusa
October 1981 - Centaur
December 1981 - Elektra

Out of that list, I enjoy playing Fireball II the most. More than Fathom, Medusa and Embryon (the ones I own, in order of my ranking)

#27 1 year ago

I hope it’s a follow up to the 1951 Mermaid. One of the best back box animations of all time... and no need for an LCD.

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#28 1 year ago
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#29 1 year ago
Quoted from Blacksnow:

Wow, dramatic much.

Fair enough, maybe I'm a bit oversensitive because I know some of these guys and don't want their hard work to be ruined, carry on.

#30 1 year ago
Quoted from Pmaino:

Hoping it’s a true remake and not a remaster.
Keep the playfield but maybe add a 2.0 code option.

That would be my ideal. Or at least if there are playfield features like the spinning circle and magnets that were added to The Beatles, at least you could potentially disable that in some game versions and play Fathom 1.0

#31 1 year ago
Quoted from cait001:

That would be my ideal. Or at least if there are playfield features like the spinning circle that was added to The Beatles, at least you could disable that in some game versions.

Tough to imagine what they could redo becasue Fathom is so good. Seawitch is not that great, and beatles fixed a lot of the issues and is a much better tweaked layout.

#32 1 year ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

I'll pay 6 grand+ for a new in box Fathom.
Easy money for whomever will do it.

I think you're right about that. Seeing what nice Fathoms go for, a NIB Fathom with modern software options would be very tempting for a LOT of people.

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#33 1 year ago

Rebooting older pins is such a great idea for start ups like Haggis.

Heck...it's a terrific idea for the established companies too.

This could turn into a very cool thing.

#34 1 year ago
Quoted from Coz:

It’s rumored that this is just the first in a series of remakes coming out. Potentially 5 titles will be remade, with different trim levels. It would be nice to see updates such as rgb lighting and modern electronics as well as updated code

Yuuuuuuup
Hence why I posted all the 1981 Bally titles duuuudes!

#36 1 year ago

I'm so excited for haggis if this is true. This could be a really successful business strategy and I wish them all the best

#37 1 year ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

I'll pay 6 grand+ for a new in box Fathom.
Easy money for whomever will do it.
I'll take a Flash Gordon, Eight Ball Deluxe and Centaur also.
Message from the Bally Freeeek Kingdom.

Centaur with some premium animation and I'd take an LE/CE, no problem. I once waxed poetic in school about the art of Centaur. I was very impressed. My classmates didn't share my appreciation.

#38 1 year ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

Centaur with some premium animation and I'd take an LE/CE, no problem. I once waxed poetic in school about the art of Centaur. I was very impressed. My classmates didn't share my appreciation.

Oh man. I'd love a Centaur remake. Artwork on that game is awesome.

#39 1 year ago

I would agree centaur should be on the remake list but I would prefer a Medusa first.

I would put quarters in fathom and almost any of the others, but I would buy a Medusa. It’s personal.

#40 1 year ago

I’m curious to see how different it will be. A great idea on a classic pin!

#41 1 year ago

So many people siked to buy throwback pinball machines that are 40 years old without knowing what it will cost!

#42 1 year ago
Quoted from Viggin900:

So many people siked to buy throwback pinball machines that are 40 years old without knowing what it will cost!

Just wait until they reveal a topper.

#43 1 year ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

Centaur with some premium animation and I'd take an LE/CE, no problem. I once waxed poetic in school about the art of Centaur. I was very impressed. My classmates didn't share my appreciation.

I would totally buy a new centaur from an Australian pinball company- no questions asked

#44 1 year ago
Quoted from HighProtein:

What ballys from 1981 should be remade?
February 1981 - Flash Gordon
April 1981 - Eight Ball Deluxe
June 1981 - Embryon
June 1981 - Fireball II
August 1981 - Fathom
September 1981 - Medusa
October 1981 - Centaur
December 1981 - Elektra

EBD was done multiple times. Thrice by Bally, and then Gottlieb did Bad Girls and Stern did Golden Cue/Sharkey’s Shootout

I actually prefer original EBD for its simple yet elegant rules compared to the others

#45 1 year ago

I’d be a big fan of a modern Fathom.

The art is beautiful but the rules are pretty so-so as is. There’s little point to getting MB other than to do it. The game is really light the spinner and shoot the spinner.

It’s a brilliant Flash-like layout without the rules to make good use of it

#46 1 year ago

Multiball is going to be the deciding factor in what makes it onto the remake list, I reckon. Fathom and Centaur are the obvious ones, collector demand for these two are high. After that, I'd say the third contender would be Fireball II.

The Class of '81 may be beloved, but none of the multiball ones actually sold very well at the time leading to their high desirability now. Even with the later '83 run (and backbox nobody really likes), Centaur barely cracked a combined 5,000 initial units.

#47 1 year ago
Quoted from PismoArcade:

Rebooting older pins is such a great idea for start ups like Haggis.
Heck...it's a terrific idea for the established companies too.
This could turn into a very cool thing.

Only problem Is Stern would gatekeep their Stern electronics license!

#48 1 year ago
Quoted from TreyBo69:

I’d be a big fan of a modern Fathom.
The art is beautiful but the rules are pretty so-so as is. There’s little point to getting MB other than to do it. The game is really light the spinner and shoot the spinner.
It’s a brilliant Flash-like layout without the rules to make good use of it

2x playfield is at least worth it, 3x playfield is pretty silly. I have been able to rip 2x 5k spinners multiple times on the game. 3x is so hard to control and set up it's not really worth it. The drops on the left are a fun strategy, the sequenced 1 - 2 - 3 extra ball is also a challenge depending on the set up of the game.

Overall I love having Fathom in my collection, but I don't think I would really pursue early SS games in a smaller collection. Including a second layer of code could really make Fathom shine in a smaller grouping of games.

#49 1 year ago

If Greg Freres is doing the artwork it would be tempting to consider... I like the game play and sound on Fathom, but the artwork is what makes it my favourite pin. Looking forward to seeing more today on it.

#50 1 year ago

I'm curious about how they will implement this. Fathom has 2 sets of individually controllable in-line drop targets (3 each), no mech like this has been made in a long time (the ones in Metallica aren't individually controllable). There is also a set of 6 side by side drops.

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