Quoted from CrazyLevi:No he doesn’t. He’s another clueless noob, like you.
When the goal of your pinball company is to “own stern,” you get deep root.
When the goal of your company is to turn a profit, you get something like GNR.
If pinside ran a pinball company, it would definitely be deep root! Every “business decision” would be based on petty Grudges and white hot emotion!

Quoted from eyeamred2u:

So we put "guitar hero" into pinball and charged 12.5k for it....what the heck is going on here JJP? Too much open playfield in the middle, did not need a map of the world on the playfield. Slash's hat could have been a much cooler toy/mod other than a stupid spinner. I am hoping gameplay reviews change my mind because the art is so badass on this game and mod developers can have so much fun with this game.

Quoted from Joe_Blasi:

Also for network need to have e-net and let people set fixed IP's (don't force DHCP)

Quoted from thechakapakuni:

Stream that puppy!

Quoted from cconway84:

Live streaming gameplay
https://www.twitch.tv/cconway84

Quoted from kvan99:

I got a CE but now I kinda wish I bought the LE instead. I know the CE has some nice touches for sure but the biggest factor for me was the extra lights and the mechanical game differences, which now we found out is not a whole lot different. The extra lights are under cab lights (What the hell Eric?) and the apron lock. So yeah, I'm kinda sour on the way the characterized the different models

Quoted from PoMC:

My thoughts exactly.
“Oooooooh pretty!”
Doesn’t look like a terrific shooter so far

Quoted from cconway84:

Live gameplay uploaded to YouTube.

Quoted from Cobray:

Game doesn't seem to have good flow. Flame me if you want. I hope I'm wrong. Because I want one of these sooooo bad.

Quoted from nicoy3k:

True but it looks like the center shot is a scoop and the left ramp locks 6 balls...

Quoted from Neal_W:

Can't deny that lightshow is 1st class...
https://clips.twitch.tv/PuzzledCarelessMosquitoOMGScoots

Quoted from Neal_W:

GNR LE being steamed live...
https://www.twitch.tv/whattheflip

Quoted from Chicoman:

I'm almost more excited by what we saw from Deeproot than GnR. Sorry but someone else has to be thinking the same thing I am watching that stream!

Quoted from Jvspin:

Agreed. Why does this happen so much with JJP initial release videos?
How difficult is it to crank up the back legs and increase the flipper power in the settings? Also, this is a music pin, play a few games with the volume up!
Combine the floaty pitch with someone who has a slow and methodical playing style (but hasn't mastered the shot geometries) and it was a little difficult to watch. Still, I appreciate Kevin for streaming the game and it was nice hearing the commentary from the team.
I think the "What the Flip" stream is a better representation of the energy the game can create.
First impressions are important!

Quoted from cooked71:

Theyve deifinitly struggled with the artowrk on these entry price games - especially compared to Stern.

Quoted from fridgejam:

I won't, but JJP if you are listening, I'd bet there would be a lot of SE owners who'd be happy to pay a few hundred more for an upgrade kit to make those SE light bars colour.

Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:

Anyone can explain to me why you enjoy Axl Rose? I never understood this.
A feminin looking and singing dude with rude attitude and the UGLIEST DANCE MOVES a man can do (side body wave!!!111).
Maybe its just me, but thats not what i want to see or hear when i listen to rock stuff.

Quoted from MikeS:

CGC games feel different than Williams games as well. No one has been able to re-create the greatness of WPC flippers.

Quoted from PoMC:

This pin has ruined Kaneda’s podcast.
BEST GAME EVER! PINSIDE DOESNT GET IT! LIGHTS! FLOW AND BALL INTERACTION WITH PLAYFIELD ELEMENTS MEAN NOTHING WHEN A FLASHLIGHT IS BEING WAVED IN YOUR FACE DURING GAMEPLAY! CONCERT EXPERIENCE! THIS IS GUNS AND ROSES PEOPLE!

Haven’t been this bored listening to a pinball podcast since I last tried listening to the pinball show podcast.

Quoted from BillySastard:

That song was written by Paul McCartney when he was with Wings. Has nothing to do with the Beatles.

Quoted from manadams:

Whether this ends up being the greatest game ever or a multiball marathon .

Quoted from rai:

I’m about to order one.
I love the artwork on the LE just can’t decide if the upper PF is fun or would the SE be better faster playing etc.

Quoted from rai:

Did you order one?
I’m settled on the cost of the LE just unsure about the upper PF. Doesn’t look that compelling but maybe I’m not seeing something.
I do worry If the SE will feel too stripped.

Quoted from cooked71:

I honestly can imagine why you would buy a SE? If you were a massive GNR fan and really couldn’t afford the extra $3k then that makes sense.

Quoted from Pinzzz:

I have played two different POTC's. one with a DVI monitor, and one with a HDMI monitor. and the one with the HDMI monitor looked washed out to me. and the one with the DVI hooked up looked much better.
I was just curious how the GNRLE monitor was hooked up. and how it looked in person?

Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:

So you basicly said that you judge games after one or two balls.

Quoted from cooked71:

Seriously, he does all the hard thinking for me us. Easier to read than think.lol

Quoted from Dr-pin:

If there was a twipy for most boring person in pinball Dennis Kriesel would win every year.
Have anybody ever heard that guy beeing enthusiastic about anything?

Quoted from alveolus:

Thanks. I never tied the fog machine into the game. The fog just made the lights look cooler.
Pinball browser for Shoot to Thrill.
I also added backbox, under cabinet, over cabinet, and behind backbox flashers.

Quoted from romulusx:

Don’t think we’re going to need more lighting on GnR?

Quoted from LukyDuck:

Distributors should be receiving updated delivery information tomorrow from JJP. At least, that is what I was told by my distributor. YMMV

Quoted from Eskaybee:

Jack Black is a pinball fan too. Maybe he can pull a slash and co-design with Eric. Would be epic!

Quoted from delt31:

how that boring and outdated elvira is even in the top 10 is beyond me.

Quoted from rai:

I’m almost about to order SE but wanted to see it in action. I’m sorry JJP didn’t release any game footage, I’m sure it’s way better for them to sell the LEs.

Quoted from jawjaw:

Pinball 101. You need long breaks in gameplay to enjoy your adult beverage. Just make sure you can cancel out with both flippers.

Quoted from J85M:

which didn’t someone say are clearcoated before they go for art? That just sounds like a recipe for disaster right there.

Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

Would love JJP to release a Black Sabbath, Jimi Hendrix or Pink Floyd pin in the future. If they act fast, Ozzy will still be alive. Ask Slash to help get Ozzy onboard the project. That would be my dream music pin.

Quoted from JonCrox:

I prefer SPECTRUM tbh

Quoted from Psw757:

Looks like the post with the washer thing behind steel post has something going on too.

Quoted from Skyemont:

Stern is garage.