Quoted from Hazoff:

No. At least for me, good is good and bad is bad. With pinball even a game where I can't get into the theme and maybe go in with less enthusiasm, I can't deny its good if it is. I can tell its good just not going buy it and if its bad and I love the theme also not gonna buy it. If Stern made Motorhead instead of Beatles I wouldn't have bought it, love the band (early stuff) but the seawitch reskin? nope. Many albums and TV shows and movies I believed would be good have sucked and vice versa. I do get it, BK3 wasn't a deep loaded pin however if ur a pinball fan how could not at least enjoy playing it? This is where ur theory comes into play. Because of the lack of features many won't even give it a chance and thats ok, I do that to some degree with Stern or JJP or Spooky because of the theme's mostly but if its a great playing pin I can't deny that. DI is an amazing playing game, only the theme keeps me from buying one as theme is very important to me when it comes to a purchase. If I go in believing something is gonna suck and its great then still say it sucks well its time for some kind of therapy.
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I trying to figure out the speculation line. Palm reading is horseshit and what they and Prostitutes speculating about.

So r base instincts are to be uncivilized?

Oh I think humans are in a league of there own. Like that great like from Runaway train. "Ur an animal" "No worse, Human"

Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Here's the pic of the GNR pooling playfield.
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Quoted from PinB:

For additional reference, here are pictures from the GNR on location at Helicon Brewing in Pittsburgh.

Quoted from Palmer:

That is a shit ton of pooling

Quoted from zr11990:

Fuck, seriously.
10k and we still have this bullshit

Quoted from PinB:

For additional reference, here are pictures from the GNR on location at Helicon Brewing in Pittsburgh.
There is pooling/bubbling evident on at least half a dozen of the posts (see pics), but I didn't see any chipping yet.
Please note that this particular machine was one of the first to go on location immediately after launch & has been played A LOT.
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Quoted from screaminr:

My concern would be if you have to remove a post , will be stuck to play field and lift up the clear coat and art work .

Quoted from kermit24:

Is this the game at JackBar?

Quoted from ZMeny:

Jersey Jack Pinball’s Guns N Roses Standard Edition Launch Party Stream LIVE TONIGHT! Be there to WIN a bunch of PRIZES, courtesy of JJP!!!
- GNR Signed Upper Playfield
- GNR LE Promotional Translite
- GNR 24x36 Slash Poster
- (5) JJP Mask & Sanitizer Kits
Thanks again to Jersey Jack Pinball, Ken Cromwell, and the Flip N Out Stream Team (Steve Bedi, Bill Webb, & @courtney Bowman)
Twitch.tv/flipnoutpinball
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Quoted from bgwilly31:

Also to comment on the CE's losing value in the next year. For crying out loud most of you cant even get the list of differences correct.
Also some of you keep mentioning another special edition ala YBR WOZ. or BA Hobbit. If you pay attention to the two titles i just mentioned. JJP as a company has changed quite a bit since woz and hobbit. And those are the last games they ever did Extra editions for. No Different DI, POTC, or Wonkas. I believe JJP Realizes and listened to the feedback from their CE customers that it wasnt cool releasing CE Type different versions of the game a year or two after the initial release. And they are more focused on moving on to the next game. For people counting on some special slash edition coming a year from now. I wouldnt hold your breath.
The CE's will not lose value. I can easily see the CE's selling for 18-20k for the next 6-8 months. After that they may drop to 14-16k. And then hold strong at 12,500 after that. I think theres a chance they stay at around the 14k mark or higher.
As for the LEs i easily see them bringing north of 10k for the next 3-4 months. As JJp wont be able to produce enough to keep up with demand.

Quoted from Dkjimbo:

Honestly? If I could buy that game will the pooling shown and have it at my house this weekend I’d pay full MSRP no questions asked.
I’m way more concerned about the production schedule and the silence that I am playfield defects. I want the damn game!!!

Quoted from romulusx:

Anywhere in St Louis or close by to play GnR?

Quoted from Dkjimbo:

Honestly? If I could buy that game will the pooling shown and have it at my house this weekend I’d pay full MSRP no questions asked.
I’m way more concerned about the production schedule and the silence that I am playfield defects. I want the damn game!!!

Quoted from PanzerFreak:

I don't know, maybe in the short term CE's will rise in value but in the long term they will drop in my opinion. This isn't a Pirates CE situation where we had a super loaded wide body game that came with a far more interactive topper and only around 200 were made. There's 500 GNR CE's being made and that is simply too many in my opinion to result in the game going up in value when the initial price is already insanely high at $12,500. I wouldn't be surprised if within a year or two we see HUO CE's selling for $10k - $11k and HUO LE's for $8k - $9k.

Quoted from PinB:

For additional reference, here are pictures from the GNR on location at Helicon Brewing in Pittsburgh.
There is pooling/bubbling evident on at least half a dozen of the posts (see pics), but I didn't see any chipping yet.
Please note that this particular machine was one of the first to go on location immediately after launch & has been played A LOT.
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Quoted from kidchrisso:

Yup, The Escape Room (that place is cool as all get out), CP Pinball, and Padavan's NY Restaurant

Quoted from bgwilly31:

Also to comment on the CE's losing value in the next year. For crying out loud most of you cant even get the list of differences correct.
Also some of you keep mentioning another special edition ala YBR WOZ. or BA Hobbit. If you pay attention to the two titles i just mentioned. JJP as a company has changed quite a bit since woz and hobbit. And those are the last games they ever did Extra editions for. No Different DI, POTC, or Wonkas. I believe JJP Realizes and listened to the feedback from their CE customers that it wasnt cool releasing CE Type different versions of the game a year or two after the initial release. And they are more focused on moving on to the next game. For people counting on some special slash edition coming a year from now. I wouldnt hold your breath.
The CE's will not lose value. I can easily see the CE's selling for 18-20k for the next 6-8 months. After that they may drop to 14-16k. And then hold strong at 12,500 after that. I think theres a chance they stay at around the 14k mark or higher.
As for the LEs i easily see them bringing north of 10k for the next 3-4 months. As JJp wont be able to produce enough to keep up with demand.

Quoted from PinB:

For additional reference, here are pictures from the GNR on location at Helicon Brewing in Pittsburgh.
There is pooling/bubbling evident on at least half a dozen of the posts (see pics), but I didn't see any chipping yet.
Please note that this particular machine was one of the first to go on location immediately after launch & has been played A LOT.
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Quoted from Tranquilize:

That works in a world where you just make shit up. Yeah... But... they made more WOZ and Hobbit editions BECAUSE THEY SOLD. The other games have not sold as well. So if we want to look at evidence, instead of --you know-- making shit up, the evidence points to them milking sales if the game sells well. 14k? LOL. Get atta here. I'm assuming you're in for a CE? That would explain everything.

Quoted from Tranquilize:

That works in a world where you just make shit up. Yeah... But... they made more WOZ and Hobbit editions BECAUSE THEY SOLD. The other games have not sold as well. So if we want to look at evidence, instead of --you know-- making shit up, the evidence points to them milking sales if the game sells well. 14k? LOL. Get atta here. I'm assuming you're in for a CE? That would explain everything.

Quoted from PtownPin:

I think if your looking at WW CE, and DI CE historical data u could easily surmise that the CE would lose value. Obviously POTC CE has increased in value mainly due to the scarcity of the game in general (plus its a great game). I think GNR CE is such a unique product that it will at a minimum hold value and possibly increase over time. Simply getting all the band members to sign the game adds several hundred to the overall value.....The product offering on the GNR CE is very different than other JJP CE's

Quoted from Dkjimbo:

Honestly? If I could buy that game will the pooling shown and have it at my house this weekend I’d pay full MSRP no questions asked.
I’m way more concerned about the production schedule and the silence that I am playfield defects. I want the damn game!!!

Quoted from Psw757:

That PF at Helicon is fucked!
Wonder how many plays?

Quoted from Dkjimbo:

Honestly? If I could buy that game will the pooling shown and have it at my house this weekend I’d pay full MSRP no questions asked.
I’m way more concerned about the production schedule and the silence that I am playfield defects. I want the damn game!!!

Quoted from ZMeny:

GNR Standard LIVE NOW + Giveaways from JJP!!
Twitch.tv/flipnoutpinball

Quoted from John1210:

This kind of Muppet mentality is exaclty why these pinball manufacturers could give a rats about fixing the problems.
Im personally pulling my order. I ain't paying for garbage playfields.

Quoted from John1210:

This kind of Muppet mentality is exaclty why these pinball manufacturers could give a rats about fixing the problems.
Im personally pulling my order. I ain't paying for garbage playfields.

Quoted from zr11990:

I can’t. He has already sold my FH. This is why I don’t buy new fucking games. Maybe I’ll just leave mine in the box and sell it and buy another AFM. Has anyone talked to Jen at JJP?

Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

Couldn’t find the stream until now. Anxious to see the SE.

Quoted from romulusx:

Dude relax your seeing one game,yours could be perfect!

Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

Couldn’t find the stream until now. Anxious to see the SE being shot. SE is the more loaded than a Stern premium.

Quoted from mbrave77:

The cost is the same SE to premium. And stern offers free shipping. Just saying(I have LE on order but watching stream now)

Quoted from flynnibus:

That’s a promo from your distributor not stern. Shipping ain’t free

Quoted from ZMeny:

correct hahaha the west-coasters hurt my pocket book haha but love shipping the WestCoast some Flip N Out pins

Quoted from mbrave77:

ive never paid shipping for a stern, but it seems standard from many(and maybe Meny)

Quoted from Pan94:

Can somebody explain why two weeks later we still don’t know build timelines?

Quoted from Freakyguy666:

I’m assuming you didn’t make the cut for a CE? That would explain everything.

Quoted from PtownPin:

No shit....so much for Mirco's new clear coat...sure would be nice if JJP commented on these issues, but we know that won't happen.