It actually doesn't look like an easy one piece Cliffy to make? It might have to be multiple pieces. The person who commented about the edge of the WOZ upper play field was absolutely correct, but that was due to air balls.

For anyone who missed it , Buffalo pinball unboxing video .
I love how shiny the new decals are with the new protective film .

Yeah I get that, in all the streams so far which was at least 4 hours of video of gameplay, I don’t think a saw a single airball.

Now I’m not saying there won’t be any but in my experience targets, slings that are too strong and wonky ramps have been the main culprits.

I’m not seeing that on this...yet

Yes probably a two piece upper and lower edge cliffy or a one piece wraparound that covers the whole thing. Not sure.

Did they Mylar the PF where the balls land on release?

I'm not sure if you're a guitar player, if you are, you would recognize a broken Gibson headstock is more authentic.

It's funny to see this full circle. If you've been around for long enough you remember when everyone complained about Stern's flippers and was so excited for JJP to bring back Williams flippers.

Well the “cool kids” do?

Some people would rather dork out over the rules and tournament play of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

The pinside dorkability factor is in full force

I pride the dings in my real Guitar headstocks, and these are on $5000 Gibson's and the like....Badges of character. Posers pay good money for "authenticated wear" replica's of their guitar hero's go to axe's as well.

One of the JJP guys stated in the video that there was mylar installed in areas where the ball drops onto the play field.

I live in the area, what bar did you go to play these games?

Made me chuckle, thanks! Yeah ive been known to play alittle guitar. I got the exact same headstock and its alittle banged up. I prefer my Strat over it though just has silky smooth action to it. One of my life long friends is grabbing a GnR and i just know he would hate for any dents to happen like WOZ did is why i said anything.

Good to know, didn’t remember that.

Oh, good...so we get plastic-covered dimples then?

Better than POTC style chipping

Not sure we know that yet....ball doesn't drop very far, but only time will tell

I think your observation of the ball rolling over the edge is the greater concern (if at all)? The ball rolls over really slow so maybe it won't matter in the long run? I don't see air balls being an issue in that area

I like how the instruction cards are magnetic and there is artwork underneath them .

Dude, speak for yourself. I was good looking till I quit going to the gym and got fat.

Drove to Madison
Blue Moon Bar

They have an awesome collection.

Just checking back after a few days if my opinion has been made for me how I should feel about the game or if discussion was still ongoing?
Once it is decided please let me know

Yeah it’s made, just go buy it

They might be WMS mechs but there’s definitely a delay and/or speed issue with them versus Stern. Fliptronic were direct wired and these are CPU controlled so that might be the main reason for the difference.

Saw this on Facebook, it's great to see Jack at the factory! Now where's the cartwheel

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Nice...It sounds like he was pretty instrumental in nailing down the license for GNR, and clearly his past efforts is what drove GNR to him in the first place. I'm a little surprised he wasn't more involved with the launch, but its the new JJP

If you perhaps feel the need to move on from that KISS Pro to fund a new GnR, I'm your dude.

The album art on the spinning disc is random for each pin right? I think during Buffalo's unboxing video Eric mentioned that Chinese Democracy, Spaghetti Incident, and Lies were options.. does anyone know if its all of GNR albums or just a select few?

I've seen UYI I, so I assume II is available as well.

I think this game looks pretty monumental. It appears to me in a normal game you will only play a handful of song modes. And you get to choose how many balls you want to play it with. How cool is that? I’m still pretty unclear what the modes are like, if they are just shoot the lights of a certain color or a bit more interesting. It looks like if you are down to one ball you’re still in the multiball which makes it different than typical multiballs. That your goal is to play modes for a certain amount of time in order to progress to the album modes is, at least to my knowledge, a new idea. And if you complete the song you can start the next mode. It kind of upgrades the meaning of the song in the game. It sounds like the album modes themselves are kind of like MET Crank it up modes, but with 4 different qualities depending on how many minutes of album songs you did play. And you can build up to them in parallel which I think is a nice twist. I haven’t a clue about the tour features, TWIP mentioned it’s related to the orbits. I for one really like the spinning disk, I’d enjoy it more I reckon if Slash’s hat spun with it. I also really like that the pops have a lot of space around them and there are multiple paths to and from them. In so many games the pops are confined to such a small area. I really like that the songs are not running all the time, but just during the song modes (maybe at other times, too). That new music was created for other phases of the game is a really big plus in my view - and this by members of the band! I’m a big fan of pinball light shows and it looks like this game does not disappoint. Ironically, the concert footage doesn’t mean much to me, but as long as you see important infos, that’s fine. Back in the day it was cool to hate G n R so I never really got into them. I’ve been listening the last few weeks a lot and it’s definitely good stuff. Maybe the game is missing that game defing toy (and I’m a big toy fan), but the diverters at the headstock of the Fender base and the 3 ball paths down the left side of the game, the six ball lock on the Les Paul headstock, the diverter at the Marshall amps and the upper playfield are actually all pretty cool and fairly unique toys. And cudos to the drumsticks on the right ramp.

Not here yet.

My poster just got here, to replace my Willy Wonka poster in the door.

LTG : )

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No chance.

It's the six studio albums - those three plus Appetite and the two Use Your Illusions.

Anyone can explain to me why you enjoy Axl Rose? I never understood this.
A feminin looking and singing dude with rude attitude and the UGLIEST DANCE MOVES a man can do (side body wave!!!111).
Maybe its just me, but thats not what i want to see or hear when i listen to rock stuff.

I only saw GnR live once - in 2016....so the only live Axl I know is that Axl. I thought his energy was great, he was dancing like nobody was watching.
How could you not love this guy?

Maybe Bieber is more your cup of tea.

If you have to ask, then it's not for you. Just like I don't listen to hiphop..Music is subjective. You either like it or not. When I hear GnR, I think of 1986 in highschool and they were the band to surpass all the glittery hair bands...You had Def Leppard and other amazing talent in those days, but along comes Gun's out of nowhere...raw, unpolished, straight up dirty old fashioned American Rock...it's really that simple.

I guess i'm dump to write that in a GnR thread , thx fooflighter for the insight. Since im younger and from europe it may just not be my taste.

Yep, no worries, it was jarring back in '86 and '87 when they hit the scene, which is why I think they broke out as big as they did. I can remember the first time I heard/saw Welcome to the Jungle...it was genre changing, just like Nirvana with Smells like Teen Spirit etc...just a moment captured in time that conjures up emotions and nostalgia which at face value is just songs, but delving deeper, each song represents a historical impact and story. Especially in formative years...my "Golden Age" of music is from 85-93, I'm 47 now, and the music sticks with you for life...and there are a lot of people my age, where a theme like GnR resonates deeply. Warts and all

Axl's dance moves don't bother me but he could stand a fashion makeover. His wardrobe falls somewhere between homeless vagabond and Kaneda.

David Hasselhoff maybe?

haha yeah i loved knight rider and go check out this soundtrack, its awesome

I guessing that a clear plastic mod could be developed to protect it

JJP games feel different to me than a williams game. Honestly you can put a blindfold on me and I would probably be able to detect if I am flipping a Williams game, or at JJP game!

CGC games feel different than Williams games as well. No one has been able to re-create the greatness of WPC flippers.

I genuinely avoid downvotes, but really...this is the most hyperbolic of statements ever made on this board. (Obviously tongue in cheek, and made with irony.)

I was just "playing" this via Pinball Arcade last night, and still marvel at....theme integration, authentic callous, music, code, shots, etc.

It was the quintessential game of it's era, and sans modern doohickies that games presently have, it still holds it's own in gameplay, shots, and FUN!

Not so much. Getting to start the song can be somewhat challenging. Though again, I suck, and few tries on the game.

I feel like the song IS the reward for clean shot making. And once the song starts, sound kicks up higher, lights strobe amazingly, it's like you're sucked into the machine and concert. Time isn't really an issue, because it's just SO...damn...FUN!

It's a real nice, long loop. Definitely Hobbit-esque, and very Houdini like.

Can whip around fast depending on the shot, or lounge about nice and slow, and the Train animation that pops up from shooting the orbit is IMMACULATE!

Played the LE today. I loved it. The whole entire package. Played Avengers LE for the first time today too. Also, a very fun pin. It's just a really awesome time to be a part of the pinball hobby.

Cheers, everyone. Have a great weekend.

Brian

Every person and game is different...some people like mode based stop and go games....some don't....some love fast flow games...some don't....some games cross between the two....U may think TAF is a bad game, but most don't....honestly I can't remember when I played a really bad game. They are all fun in their own way....now maybe I wouldn't spend thousands to have one at the house, but its far from bad.

HOW DARE YOU, “BRIAN”!?! (If in fact that IS your real name!?!)

PICK A SIDE!!!

I had the same experience on Tuesday! So much fun!

Loved some of the shots on Avengers LE and Pro, but the polish, sound design, code, and production level of GnR makes it a non comparison in many ways. First time I've ever felt bad for Elwin, due to being hindered by Stern, yet at the same time able to pump out games so quickly!

Super good flow, and great wireforms on Avengers, but I didn't feel any interest in the code, battles felt flat, lifeless. And ironically the shots seem too easy, compared to JP2.

Whereas I was I putoff by shot rejects from GnR, but the game comes ALIVE like no other pin I've ever played.

I want more time on both, and most of all, more skill as a player to properly enjoy both...and of course more $$$$ to own both!

I read every single one of your posts in birdman voice.

I think Stern has been doing pretty well lately code wise, considering they're putting out 3 to 4 games a year. The polish JJP is able to give to their code with their slower release schedule is one of the things I really like about their games.