I've owned 4 G&R's thru out the past 12 years. Upgrading since the first purchase. I had the one with factory headphone speaker jack (volume up/down) on the front lower right corner. Actually, when I first saw the game for sale... I couldn't believe someone cut into the cabinet and installed it. Only to learn later, it was fairly rare with approx 100 made. I sold it for a nicer one.

My current G&R has all black rails. I actually owned 2 at the same time, and swapped the black rails into my keeper game. I prefer the look much better all black. I had a small issue the ball occasionally not making it all the way up shooter ramp. That was solved by reducing the coil wrap wire.

I added an internal amp, upgraded both back box & base speakers. This game ROCKS! I've added a few Pinbits items too. I do really like the wooden gun handle... maybe a little Christmas gift for myself.

My GNR have all black wire rails... which I like better than chrome look.

I do occasionally get balls stacked in shooter lane during MB. I've shortened the wire length on coil to make it stronger, this helped and pitch of game/playfield is spot on.

Anyone know of a stronger coil option?

Thanks dsuperbee... I checked Pinball Life this morning. They only had the strong flipper coil. I'll look into PR.

Kerry

I went on Pinball Resource's website. To me... that site is very difficult to navigate in/on. I wouldn't know where to start looking for an "upgraded" Data East shooter coil for my GNR's.

I think I'll try to call Steve on Tuesday. Last time I spoke to him personally, was 12-15 years ago. As I recall back then, he didn't like to discuss parts without a part #.

Good info... I'll look into all these suggestions.

Thanks Kerry

Never seen that come up on my game... very interesting.

I've owned GNR for about 10 years. We installed amp, big base and upper end mid's in the backbox = Huge Improvement.

I've not heard anything pinsound board & Julien's sound mix... please do tell.

Thanks
Kerry

Ulmpharmd... Thanks for the info. We put an interior amp, new base and 2 hifi mid/tweeters in backbox. It sounds so much better. However, I'll have to look into this.

Thanks Kerry

@GAP... I personally don't like the way it blocks the tip of the pistol near flipper buttons.

Where do you get a pinsound board and what's the cost?

I used to have a GnR's with the volume control, in front, under pistol.

When I first saw it and purchased the game, I actually thought some previous owners installed it as a mod. Only later, to discover they (factory) made approx 100 of them.

I've since sold that game and purchased a nicer sample.

Congrats on your first pin purchase. GnR's is an excellent 1st first.

Keep us posted on your progress with issues.

Yeah... I too agree $5500-$6000 w/o topper.

Your GnR with the headset volume controls in front is rare. I too had one, but I replaced that GnR with a nicer one (w/o volume controls). I think there were only 100 or so made that way from the factory. Someone in the know, could chime in.

The other thing I really like about yours is... all the black rails. Most GnR's have chrome or a mix of black & chrome. Apparently they had issues with black rails not allowing the ball to be shot into play, all the time. My GnR's has all black, shoots fine and looks good.

Good luck on what ever you decide.

Kerry

Thanks for the info & picts... looks like I'll need to do some fabrication of the grips, to get them installed.

Did yours come with original topper?

I was curious too, so I just looked at mine... it says Multi Ball.

Ah Man... what a bummer indeed. So sorry to see that. Thanks for sharing.

Hello GnR's Fans...

I'd like to replace the black plastic grips, on the shooter pistol. I'm not sure if these would work from Ruger, or maybe Colt?

I like them both, however, I won’t purchase either without knowing they’d fit.

The New Vaquero was introduced by Ruger as a similar gun to the Vaquero/Blackhawk family.
Rosewood https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/ruger/newvaquero/

Ivory type: ebay.com link: New Model Vaquero Scroll Checkered Brown For Ruger Frames NICE

Any help / thoughts?
Thank You!
Kerry Richard

@Blackjacker... Good info. I think I'll trace and send the grips to them, to see what style matches better.

Thank you!
Kerry

Man that's cool that you have all those sigs on your translite.

My GnR legs are original: they're about 1" longer than B/W and the metal fold at the bottom, come to a point. B/W legs are rounded off.

Hard to say with just those few picts. I feel there's definitely added value with the lower production and uniqueness of the different inserts etc.

I own GNR too, since late 90's. I'd guess low $6000 range.

Kerry

I too own a GnR's. I've had mine since the late 90's. I think the DE GnR's value is somewhat softer now with JJP's competing.

With all yours has to offer... I would think the low to mid $6000 range.

Kerry

First question: Does it have the original topper included? Huge difference in value either way.
And fix: Change out your rubbers ASAP.

No topper: maybe high $4000's to low $5000's.
Original topper included: add $500-$750

I own one as well. It's in exceptional condition. I have JJP's GnR's LE coming in 1-2 months(?). I'm not sure I want to sell my DE GNRs. It sits proudly next to Tommy

As an option:
I was looking to swap mine for maybe one of these. I haven't confirmed they'll fit, however I believe I saw and read here on Pinside where a guy did use the wood one. I also think he had to do some trimming on it.

https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/ruger/newvaquero/

ebay.com link: New Model Vaquero Scroll Checkered Brown For Ruger Frames NICE

Gun Handel for GNR's (resized).png

The blue in it is a lot more vibrant.

That could be a plus or minus for some purist's. For me... a plus

If you go back to post #2285 you'll see a couple links and picts of what I think are great looking handles.

I was looking to swap mine for maybe one of these. I haven't confirmed they'll fit, however I believe I saw and read here on Pinside where a guy did use the wood one. I also think he had to do some trimming on it.

https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/ruger/newvaquero/

ebay.com link: New Model Vaquero Scroll Checkered Brown For Ruger Frames NICE