Quoted from Baiter:

GNR was one of the first pins I bought, I chose it over a TOTAN for the same price, same condition. The whole package is unparalleled, it stood alone for nearly 2 decades as the only real "rock" pin until ACDC and MET came along, and like MET it is a Borg design with Lyman's participation as well. It is the only game with 3 mid-field magnets slinging 2-to-6 ball multiball every which way.
I've gone thorough a round of trying to brighten up the game, being 20 years old... really hesitant to go LED which would affect the light show. I'm not yet convinced this game is a good candidate for LEDs, but I think it can be done somehow.

Quoted from Dbaum88:

Also, with the buy-in button, you basically turn every game from 3 ball to 5 ball and Billion+ scores become fairly routine.

Quoted from Iamdarras:

We need to rally Simone up to get into the code and change the Ain't going down song! It's he only thing I don't dig about the game!

Quoted from Blackjacker:

There are plenty of things I'd love to see revised in or added to GNR's code, but like dsuperbee I'd leave Ain't Goin' Down in.
For a 'cosmetic' only change, I'd like to see the order in which you get the band members on stage changed. Having Axl get on stage last (or sometimes not all) would seem to be a no-brainer.

Quoted from RoadRunner:

A new member joining in! I got my GnR a few weeks back and have been playing it a lot these days (and nights). The shooter lane switch leaf was broken when I got the game, but everything still worked fine. Except for when starting a ball with gilby rolls guitar feature. When the ride was over, I had to wait 'til the game went into ball search and launched the ball into play. If I pulled the trigger, it would only lock the feature instead of launching the ball. I changed the switch thinking it would fix the issue, but it still remains.
Anyone else with the same problem?
Otherways my game is pretty fine. I added McFarlane Slash with his Marshalls, stripped, cleaned and waxed the playfield, put new balls in, fixed one crispy GI connector and did some other minor stuff. I think I will be holding on to this one for a long time...it might even be a keeper

Quoted from RoadRunner:

Nope, guitar feature switch works just fine, the problem is when I start a new ball with guitar feature Gilby rolls. After the ride is done and the ball still sits on the shooter lane, it will not launch until the ball search.

Quoted from RoadRunner:

I changed the whole switch since the old one was broken. Shooter lane switch gets recognized in the switch test just fine, but still makes me wait for ball search after Gilby is done with his ride. All the other switches work fine too, so I suppose all is well with the switch matrix. Im outta ideas

Quoted from Arcadegarage:

Does anyone think the Macfarlane 6.5" slash mod is too tall in their machine? I'm looking into getting a slash mod and didn't want to have a figure that looked disproportionate on the pf. Thanks.

Quoted from BigLebowski:

That´s interesting. I have the same shooter ramp, but there´s a one way gate at the end of the left orbit, which keeps the ball from going all around like you describe it.
On the other hand there´s no such gate at the end of the right orbit, so a shot up the left orbit goes all around and doesn´t end up in the bumpers.

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

Probably a silly question, but how many balls should the GNR pinball have for active gameplay (not counting the DUFF ball)? Mine has 5 but I've read that it should have 6.

Quoted from CraZ4Pin:

Possibly someone prior to you added some lighting enhancements? Mine was fairly dark when I got it ... but then Steve (Hemi) at Pinball Refinery worked his magic and now it's lit up nicer than a Christmas tree.

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

I'm wondering if anyone can help me locate the specs for the screws for Guns N' Roses pinball that secure the Axl scoop plastic down. One of my 2 screws fell somewhere while I was doing some mods and I cannot find it! I would like to match the screws so need the identical screw or 2 new ones but was wondering if anyone can refer to a parts company that would carry this. I checked in the manual but the screws are not detailed (only posts). Thanks in advance!

Quoted from a_derelict:

just picked up a GnR for 1k with a very nice playfield and cabinet. he had a jumper bypassing the f1 fuse on the psb and the game was functional . which brand of replacement board recommended? this one is fried pretty good behind fuses f1 and f2. but everything else on it is snazzy. no topper though...

Quoted from a_derelict:

it looks like someone spliced and soldered a violet/brown to psb, and a green/yellow to psb right around the base of the relay. also, there isn't anything plugged into the molex connection adjacent to the relay.
Any ideas where the violet, brown, yellow and green wires fitted onto the board originally?

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Quoted from o-din:

I have read a lot of stories about people modifying flipper and shooter coils to make them stronger. I found a simple adjustment in the menu to increase coil pulse just like on newer Sterns did the trick. The game plays so much better, and the ball flies up the ramps now. Even backhand from both sides. There is also a noticeable difference in magnet action during multiball.

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

Has anyone here used EL wire to light up their G and R ramps using yellow and red (respectively)? I'm planning on using Coolight that many have used to modify Tron ramps and have the ramps continuously on with these colors as the ramps are so dark and could use some additional lighting.

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Quoted from Blackbeard:

Thanks for all the info on the shopout.
I'm about half way through the top. All ramps and wireforms off. Apron, etc. So far extremely easy. I can't believe how easy the ramps remove.
My only gripe (and this isn't a shopout gripe) is I noticed that the axl plastic has that light rivited on to the bottom of it. I ordered a new plastic, as mine is cracked. I have no ability to attach the light to the new one. Thinking of super gluing it actually.

Quoted from CaptainNeo:

12 songs I think. Plays almost the entire album of AOD. Doesn't play rocket queen tho which I was hoping was the song for RIOT.

Quoted from o-din:

Nighttrain comes on when you start multiball. One of the reasons I love this machine so much.

Quoted from Blackbeard:

Anyone have any trouble with the cliffy for the g ramp?
The holes aren't lining up well for the cliffy and ramp

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

I've had some trouble with my G ramp after I had removed it to install my EL Wire with the slope being a bit steeper than it used to be so it's harder to get the ball up the ramp. It appears that everything is lined up just fine but for some reason the "feel" is not the same to get the ball up the ramp and even when putting the backglass back on, the glass will occasionally slide against the top part of the Slash decal metal piece above the snake ramp trap door.

Quoted from Blackbeard:

Guys: I should've made my post more detailed. I apologize.
I'm talking about the cliffy for the G ramp's entrance... not the trap door..

Quoted from Blackbeard:

I'm nervous about redrilling the ramps. Did you just use a standard drill bit?
Cliffy mentioned just filing the metal holes of the protector to allow a skewed screw hole

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

I tried to push the ramp down and still not much luck. I'm finding the top of the G seems much steeper but the circle at the end of the snakepit is underneath it and it can't really be lowered.
I just seem to have alot more trouble getting the ball up the ramp that I used to have. The R ramp is super easy to hit.
Perhaps I will post some pictures and see if anyone has any other suggestions to drop this down a bit.

Quoted from Blackbeard:

Question for those that have shopped it: the DUFF targets don't have much foam backing behind them. So i added some. Now I'm thinking they should go without the foam, as the captive ball doesn't get hit too hard and the foam may impede the switch contact.
Thoughts?
I do t want to get it all back together and then change my mind. Pita to get to.

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

I tried to push the ramp down and still not much luck. I'm finding the top of the G seems much steeper but the circle at the end of the snakepit is underneath it and it can't really be lowered.
I just seem to have alot more trouble getting the ball up the ramp that I used to have. The R ramp is super easy to hit.
Perhaps I will post some pictures and see if anyone has any other suggestions to drop this down a bit.

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

Great question... is this really needed?
I'm considering if I remove it that may help with my G ramp being propped up as high.

Quoted from 2RustyBalls:

Anyone here get their hands on these ramps?
ebay.com link » New Data East Guns n Roses Pinball Ramps G And R Ramps New Rare

Quoted from Blackbeard:

So thought I'd post these questions here. First though, loving this GNR since being shopped. What a spectacular rule set and pin. Just super cool. Now on to some tweaks I thought you members may be able to help with:
1. Once in awhile, the vuk will send the ball up to the shooter lane wireform, but it hangs up on the left side of the shooter lane wire form. I have to pull glass and Nudge it. Quite annoying. I tried to swivel the vuk wire form a bit with no success.
2. Occassionally the laser kickback will not kick the ball very hard. It's like it makes half an effort to kick. All is tight under the apron and the plunger moves freely, etc. Also the wiring looks good to the lugs. Wondering if this is switch related?
3. Anyway to make the pops more powerful? I haven't cleaned the switches on them, and that would probably help a great deal. I know DE pops aren't like Williams. Thoughts?
Thanks

Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Do all DE games ride as high in the cabinet - and off the floor - as GnR? Can't lift playfield all the way up in my low ceiling basement. No problem with Stern and Williams games.

Quoted from Blackbeard:

Anyone know what the backstage pass light does?

Quoted from Blackbeard:

I thought it was a ball saver flasher too, but it comes on at weird times and I can't find a pattern to it.
Anyone else have any clue?

Quoted from Nelly:

Not sure if this is against the rules but, figured I'd share with you guys. I have a complete set of NOS playfield decals up for auction. These are originals from the late 90's. NOT the wrong colored repros that are available today. Please check them out if you are interested.
ebay.com link » Like

Quoted from pinballYeti:

About 5% of the time my GNR will kick two balls into the shooter lane at ball start. Anyone else seen this? I'm not sure if the coil is firing twice, I think it does. Flaky trough switch maybe? I guess to debug I'll take the apron off and watch for it to happen...

Quoted from CaptainNeo:

on clean games with flipper mechs that work right and rebuilt, should be no problems. Only problems i've ever heard about, are the auto kick problems from powdercoated wire tubes.

Quoted from Kerry_Richard:

My GNR have all black wire rails... which I like better than chrome look.
I do occasionally get balls stacked in shooter lane during MB. I've shortened the wire length on coil to make it stronger, this helped and pitch of game/playfield is spot on.
Anyone know of a stronger coil option?

Quoted from vdojaq:

Same with mine, the left one was broken. The Pinball Life replacements work very well. I replaced them all and it just looks much better.

Quoted from matt_adams:

When my G&R is in attract mode it says that the next game from Data East is Carousel. Does this happen with anyone else's and what is this mystery game?

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Quoted from DrMark12PA:

Just wondering if others who have installed the back lit up banner like this (as I have it installed as well) notice that you really don't see the full Guns n Roses logo when standing in playing position. It looks like it's a bit too high to see the full lettering while actually playing.

Quoted from Nexyss:

Although I would really like to see it, I think it is doubtful. Slash is all about live performances, and I think it is pretty safe to say that Axl is a studio musician at this point. He will spend years massaging an album, while Slash is more prone to just recording a live session.

Quoted from CaptainNeo:

I was thinking about putting mini spot light looking cans in the back area, shining down on the back of the playfield. Linked directly to the mode lights. As you light a mode, it will light the same colored spotlight can in the back as well. As you get more and more modes done. More cans would be lit, and when you have them all, you are ready to do the concert (riot).

Quoted from delt31:

Any tips on installing the green LED strip under the snake? Mine is about to arrive and its the first thing I want to do! Any help would be appreciated.

Quoted from delt31:

Interesting - it looks like you put the light within the snake itself by opening it. I was thinking of just putting a sticky LED strip underneath or somewhere. Wasn't sure though how to power it on. I know dumb question but where does that exactly attach to? Prob alligator clips somewhere no and would I have to remove anything besides the glass to access?? Thinking just take glass off, sticky on in some location (any sugg would be appreciated) and then attach to bottom of the table underneath but where....

Quoted from delt31:

GnR owners - what color flipper rubbers do you use? Mine has black and I kind of like it - wasn't expecting to.....
also - any crazy brand or are they all the same?

Quoted from delt31:

any ones in particular or just standard $1 ones?

Quoted from delt31:

guys - all of a sudden, the gate that allows the ball to fall into the snake pit (on the yellow G ramp) does not go down after it should. This results in snake pit shots that aren't intended. Suggestions on how to fix so it goes back down when needed (besides manually pushing it down)?

Quoted from delt31:

thanks - if you have a pic of the arm let me know. I see the coil and the black rod but didn't see an arm on the blue door that goes up and down itself. Might just be a mix of words though.

Quoted from delt31:

Still struggling with this. It seems to go down by itself during gameplay but not consistently. Not sure why. The black rod is aligned and when I test it out by pushing it, the gate opens and closes fine. Am I not understanding your suggestion correctly?

Quoted from Baiter:

On mine the hinges of the G-ramp door touch the wireframe below, so after it opens it gets stuck in the up position. It sounds like yours is doing that but to a lesser degree. My fix is to put in a spacer to lift the G-ramp just enough so the trap door has plenty of clearance to go back down without resistance. I have a replacement ramp that I hope will resolve the issue, just haven't got around to installing it.

Quoted from allsportdvd:

This was my first Pinball and I'd rather sell my left nut than this machine. I'd like to improve it somewhat as I've done LED's/Cliffy/Red DMD
Has anyone added a speaker kit & would this be the one to add?
ebay.com link » Pinball Pro Speaker Kit For Data East Guns N Roses Tommy Pinball Machine

Quoted from Nexyss:

Is the mounting on this different than Stern pins? My GnR is for sale, but I would like to try it with my Metallica CDMD before it sells.

Quoted from TKDalumni:

What are the must have mods?

Quoted from alimerick:

Guns and Roses stud removal. DMD stud so Color DMD will fit.
Not near a GNR and can't find pictures. Is it necessary to cut this with a dremel. How is the stud held in with a t-nut? Could it be removed or unscrewed? If not tips or tricks to do this without a dremel ?
Thank You

Quoted from snaroff:

Yep...here's a picture that shows the problem. Major bummer.
Chris and I are working on a simple solution that should provide a fit-and-finish consistent with the B/W platforms that also have a door.
For now, I've removed the 1/4" spacer...replacing it with a 1/8" nut. This allows you to remove the panel without damaging the controller board or ribbon connector.

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Quoted from snaroff:

Not a fan of hacking the light board. I worked with Chris @ ColorDMD to solve the problem properly (by just adding 4 new, well placed holes). Fits perfectly now Here's a pic...

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Quoted from scottmaggie:

Anyone ever figure out where the "Snake Jackpot" plastic from Pinbits is supposed to get installed?

Quoted from Minneapolispin:

Anyone that has LED'd their game, I'm looking for ideas. Please share a photo of color schemes you've done. Thanks!

Quoted from Bigbossfan:

I'm babysitting my buddies GnR for him while he's renovating his basement. Thought I'd do a favour for him and shop it out. Going to order a bunch of competition rings from Titan. Is the list in the manual accurate?
Any recommendations for anything else. Going to LED it for him as well.

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

I am having trouble with my snake pit trap door not lifting up during game play when it is supposed to engage so the ball can drop down into snake pit ramp. When I test it in the "cycling coils" diagnostics menu, it works. I'm wondering if the coil is failing or what else could be the issue.

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

Shouldn't the trap door trigger when the multi ball is lit or Snake pit is triggered before even the ball hitting the ramp?

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

Now comes the silly question, but how do I test the ramp switch?

Quoted from Draegermeister:

I've had my GNR since 1998, but it never had a topper. I just picked one up, and I was wondering the specs to drill it in. Anyone have the proper dimensions?

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

Also wondering if anyone has recommendations on left G ramp and seems like ever since I redid some things on playfield it's harder to get the ball up the left G ramp. I have tried everything to make sure the entrance grade is low but nothing appears grossly off

Quoted from volkdrive:

Anyone have an issue with the G ramp trap door sticking in the up position? I can't really see where it's binding. Most parts there are not usually available from common sellers.
On note related to the tour: first time was 88 when they opened for Maiden then in 2012 (basically just Axl), now taking my daughter and my wife to see this tour in August.

Quoted from Djshakes:

Is this a hot mod or stupid mod?

Quoted from billrz:

Hoping to pick one of these up. But the guy wants 10,500 Canadian. It's signed by slash and has colour dmd and topper. Couple other upgrades as well. A bit steep. But I want it so bad ! A bit pricey tho?

Quoted from FlipMyBalls:

Can someone take a couple photos of the snake pit coil for me? Mine was working fine but i had to take it apart to get that cliffy in there (the biggest pain in the ass cliffy ive seen) and after i put everything back the pit wont lift now so i had to take it apart again. Not sure if i put the coil back right. Switches are working btw
Thanks

Quoted from FlipMyBalls:

yea I guess the photo was more to make sure I had that little spring in the right spot and what the arm looks like off the coil. As I had to take the coil/ arm off and apart to get that cliffy on. but now I have it off again lol. Gonna take a while to get it just right. power is going to the coil but nothing is moving.
thanks for the response

Quoted from gweempose:

I'm currently having my cabinet and backbox restored, and I figure I might as well do the siderails, lockdown bar and hinges while I'm at it. What color do you guys think looks best on this game? Should I go with a glossy black, or something a bit more exotic?

Quoted from matt_adams:

+1 on that, G&R and LAH are great but they aren't really there for any reason, on TAF they are "the power" even on Godzilla they are his radioactive breath

Quoted from DrMark12PA:

Is there a way to test the magnets on the game to make sure they are working?

Quoted from billrz:

Since I installed a new axl cliffy, 90 percent of the kickouts go sdtm anybody else have this issue and know how to mitigate it?? thanks you in advance.

Quoted from Chalkey:

I'm working on someone else's G&R. It rules.
Does anyone have a bulb list? I'd like to do an LED conversion but get comets. Also, anybody done anything cool with titans?

Quoted from matt_adams:

I have just got my second G&R and I wonder if someone could answer a question for me.
Both games had the later wireforms on but on my previous G&R when you launched the ball it would stop at the top and roll thorough the roll overs to the pops but on my new one it fires all the way round to the upper flipper, which is correct?

Quoted from allsportdvd:

I’ve had this machine for 10 years and did not know that. Is there one that’s preferred or one that is more common?
Mine feeds the pop bumpers.

Quoted from Nexyss:

I like revision one, but they can be a pain to get and keep the adjustment to work reliably. The guy I bought mine from set it perfect. I want to set the pitch of my machine steeper, but it breaks the adjustment, and I don’t want to lose what I have now. Lol

Quoted from billrz:

Amazing. Will this prevent more than one ball from entering the shooter lane and getting stuck ?

Quoted from Dallas_Pin:

Yes sir ... 100 operational. I figured a switch was not registering, but up/down the ramp they are perfect.

Quoted from Mitoska:

While at techs today checking on game, we wondered if these posts are supposed to be like this, they are Very hard plastic, and solid and they do not slide off a post, they are like a bushing or something.. wondering if these are supposed to be here or if someone made them at some time, I would have guessed regular metal posts that took a rubber.. Can anybody please confirm if these are correct, or what should be there, thanks
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Quoted from jake35:

Does anyone know what fuse is linked to the lights under the playfield, where the "Guns" and "Roses" inserts are lit? All mine went out including the one that lights up when the magnets come on. I installed a pinsound board a couple nights ago and I think I missed a pin on the ribbon cable that came from the power board and I believe that may have been what blew the fuse. The game plays fine otherwise including the sound etc.

Quoted from jake35:

Thanks, looks like f1 and f2. They checked out fine so must be something else.

Quoted from Foraree34:

Looking for a reworked magnet board, looks like Great lakes Modular is a dead end now, per other pinside theads and unanswered emails....
What are my other options or suggestions as I keep blowing magnet fuses

Quoted from billrz:

My left flipper just started sticking up and staying up, it goes down if I turn off the machine.. any body else have this issue and maybe a solution? I’ve not moved the machine or anything.
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Quoted from TronGuy:

Nope. I may be able to glue it so I can play it, but I still have the issue of the door on that ramp not opening and closing.

Quoted from wolfemaaan:

What is the door hitting? I cant tell from that side, maybe take one from the other angle and show what its hitting?
I seemed to had this issue for a minute and needed to move/adjust something

Quoted from TronGuy:

yep and adjusting that got me into a situation where I destroyed my original ramp (after spending hours cliffy-ing it up)
I'm leaving for CAX tomorrow, so I will deal with it some time after I get back.
does someone sell the slash sticker?