Guns N' Roses
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This was my first Pinball and I'd rather sell my left nut than this machine. I'd like to improve it somewhat as I've done LED's/Cliffy/Red DMD
Has anyone added a speaker kit & would this be the one to add?
ebay.com link: Pinball Pro Speaker kit for Data East Guns N Roses Tommy pinball machine
Quoted from rockrand:Have you done the pinbits light sign mod and add a slash over the top lanes ,I also added mirror blades. fun game.i plugged it into a external sub, sounds so good that I did not upgrade the speakers but it could only help
That's the lighted sign that says Gun n' Roses in red? No & I didn't want to pay $200 for a McFarlane Slash. Mirror Blades are on the cards though, there is a guy locally for me who does Stern ones which will fit GNR
Quoted from Blackjacker:* LED OCD and EnerGI Maestro boards
* Upgraded magnet board from Great Lakes Modular
I'd like to hear a bit more about these 2 
Quoted from Blackjacker:LED OCD: eliminate "strobing/ghosting," mimic incandescent fade, control brightness and other tricks, for your controlled lights (inserts).
See: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/led-ocd-advanced-lamp-controller-shipping-with-wait-list
EnerGI Maestro: set max/min brightness for GI lamps, adjust speed of the fade out/in of the lamps when the game flashes the GI and, I think best of all, eliminate the relay clicking when the GI is flipped on/off.
See: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/led-gi-smoother-for-data-east
GLM's revised magnet board: http://www.greatlakesmodular.com/index.html?http://www.greatlakesmodular.com/products/pinball/stnmcb.html
Mate, thanks a bunch - the magnet board looks like a must to me!
Quoted from djh00000:Finally got around to adding this to my game. It's a prototype snake and the only one I have ever seen. Looks fantastic!!
It looks really creepy, I like it!
I’m thinking of buying this speaker kit that’s on eBay https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Pinball-Pro-Speaker-kit-for-Data-East-Guns-N-Roses-Tommy-pinball-machine-/263813834756
but I want to keep the original music so not interested in pinsound. Has anyone installed these speakers into their game and is it a worthwhile exercise?
Quoted from dsuperbee:Both. The style that feeds the upper flipper is Rev 3, the chrome style launch ramp that feeds the rollovers is Rv 2.
I’ve had this machine for 10 years and did not know that. Is there one that’s preferred or one that is more common?
Mine feeds the pop bumpers.
Quoted from tonyhoff1:Does anyone have an extra set of slingshot plastics and plastics that go on top of the lane guides. All 4 of my plastics are messed up. Thanks
I’ve got a spare set of slingshot plastics but they are used
Quoted from HomieDaChief:Next, I'd like to add a mod. Since I'm 25 miles east of St Louis I'd like to start with the "St Louis Riot" mod if I can find one.
Again, thanks for sharing your expertise.
Welcome to the Jungle Baby...
I bought a St Louis Mod from the person who made the mod and he took my money and never sent it! So if you find one ask him where my one is lol
Quoted from DorkVonWaterfall:My new topper? Maybe.....
Very cool! Pinsound Board too?
Quoted from Dallas_Pin:How do you get a perfect score with Gilby? I've made it through without hitting anyone/any car and get 45mil tops.
I know getting a perfect score on Gilby is 93 but does anyone have a video of how? I get 77 million every time
Just received these custom side rails in raw metal ready for powdercoating. Not sure whether I go black and then paint the cabinet under the logo in red or leave the cabinet black and do the rails in red.
Or a completely different colour?
Thoughts from the group?
1FACDF8D-43E0-43AC-A951-C046300A7A79 (resized).jpegFA098A6D-3820-4326-A228-F9297749F774 (resized).jpegQuoted from DorkVonWaterfall:do you have the cutting files? if you do, would you share them?
BTW, they look pretty awsome
I didn’t make them, they were done by a local distributor
Quoted from Boof-Ed:These are original legs. The ridge starts much further down the leg from the bolts than the one in you’re picture.[quoted image]
Great - so neither the smooth legs or the Ridge I have on mine are correct lol
Quoted from Jrotten:Shame they didn't fit, I think a guy in Europe had custom GNR rails made. I think page 35 or so. Pretty cool looking.
That was me and I’m in Australia not Europe
About to start my restore and have them powder coated black. They are raw steel at the moment
Quoted from gregh43:I plan on getting the JJP GnR . All depends
How awesome it will be. I have yet to see a teaser pic from JJ. I own a bally kiss and really wasn't impressed with the stern version. The gene head was poorly designed only good thing was it had a song list of music. And a DmD. Has anyone seen any pics of the JJ GnR? Hopefully JJ GnR will be great with Slash piloting production.
I have to have everything GNR so if JJ do one then I’ll have to get it. I kinda hope they don’t as my back pocket will hate me!
Quoted from Jimmyhonda:There is one screw in the grip and one in the gun. I’m guessing you can’t take the grips off without taking the entire gun housing a part, but I’m not sure? I’d rather not take everything a part if I don’t have to. Thanks for your help my friend.
I’m pretty certain you have to take the entire gun assembly off and then it splits in held with the removal of a couple of screws
Quoted from MJW:Wrong thread guys....This is The Data East one ..
THIS
Not SE, LE or CE, we are DE here
There are enough threads about the JJP machine, do not hijack our DE thread.
Further to my posts on the custom side rails, I have been able to install them amid my restoration. Here are some progress pics
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I didn’t make the side rails, they were done by an Australian supplier I use. Can’t see them selling into the USA as the cost to ship them would be astronomical
Quoted from mcuzz:Had my GNR for a while now and would like to share what I have done to it, first the skill shot and snake pit lights were just turned around so they are not seen but the light shines through the plastic. Snake plastic was trimmed a bit, might add some teeth (if anyone has suggestions share) Slash mcfarlane figure and amps were installed. Mystery scoop light relocated to under the scoop (I used blue but I think a color changer would look good as well) The skull at the right orbit is always lit so I put a color changer under it, skull looks good changing colors all the time. Removed the left 2 spotlights at the top of the playfield and relocated them to the tops of the slings for more light on the middle of the playfield instead. Painted the silver gun holder black to match the cab.
If you have a pinsoundboard I would like to share 2 pinsound mixes I have worked on.
If you don't have one, buy one they are amazing and really transform this game.
First one Is GNR's greatest hits, all the best songs mixed to be loud and compressive of the band we all know. welcome to the jungle is always the song for ball one and many other songs have been used for everything else.
Second one Is a Sound city 1986 mix, In 1986 the band recorded demos of what would become most of Appetite for destruction. Only songs from these recordings were used here, all crowd sounds were removed from sound effects because in 1986 there were very small or no crowds. Also sweet child of mine and coma were not recorded yet so I had to get creative with the mode start clip and coma mode. Again welcome to the jungle is always ball one and all other sound city songs are used somewhere in the game.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19NiUMQxXk4xsfc_S2y8XeOstIHir4H_E/view?usp=sharing
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Looks nice. In the process of restoring mine, where did you get the coming door decal?
Quoted from Jimmyhonda:Which size did you order? Thank you!
It didn’t matter, being in Australia meant huge shipping
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Thanks but I can’t tell from this pic how the switch is attached to the Axl scoop
Quoted from mozach:I meant when you submit a mix to the community board, they need to be approved and that can take forever. If you're just looking for a mix to put on your board, there shouldn't be a wait. Just go to pinsound-community.org and create an account. There's a download tab with all the mixes by game. There are about 10 on there for GNR including the original.
Okay, I have an account and see the Guns n Roses options, total newbie question but how do I listen to them to see which I'd like on my machine?
I’m very close to finishing my restoration and have 3 sets of wires that I’m unsure of location
1 - wires from Mystery is Lit light at Axl hole
2 - Green/White wire potentially slingshot?
3 - 2 long black wires from rear (look like the pop bumper light wires
Can anyone help with pics of these areas under their machine?
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Thanks I’ll check that out, I don’t think I have that folder name though, doesn’t ring a bell
Quoted from Blackjacker:If the folder is missing, you can simply make a new one, just be sure the folder name starts with 1432595207
In the original mix, the folder was 000050-press_fire (new format 1432595207-press_fire) and the file was press_fi__LEGACY.wav, which was an instrumental version of "Ain't Goin' Down"
I also used one of the others and added to it. Created an folder for that and now the guitar solo from November Rain plays during ramp millions! My only issue now is the volume. I have to crank it up to hear it. The diagnostic says volume of 23 at the pedometer when it’s fully turned up. I unplug CN3 and it goes up to 100. Any thoughts?
Quoted from thechakapakuni:If you are having volume issues you need to turn up the Pinsound EQ, Volume, etc on the Pinsound board. If it’s distorting I’m curious if you bought the power boost connector
Yes I have the Power Boost connector. Also have turned up the EQ to the 90's in volume just to get a decent sound
Quoted from boogies:I recently picked up a GnR, it's an awesome machine. I'vd been changing some of the LEDs and got it looking great (to my taste).
I plan to get the pinSound and an Alt Backglass, but I'm holding off a few weeks.
Is there any must have mods out there?
I made 17 changes to the original stock machine (not counting leds)
1 - Colordmd
2 - CPR Backglass
3 - Vampire glass
4 - Lit up "Welcome to the jungle" plastic (all new plastics)
5 - Lit up snake green
6 - powdercoated wire forms in red and yellow
7 - side blades with AFD skull faces
8 - Slash figure in top mini orbit
9 - Custom side rails with GNR logo etched
10 - Transparent pop bumper body and caps with color changing leds
11 - Clearcoated playfield
12 - Titan rubbers throughout
13 - Cliffy on Axl hole
14 - Pinsound and upgraded speakers
15 - New G Ramp (original commonly broken)
16 - New cabinet decals
17 - GLM upgraded magnet board
Any of those 17 could be "must have" depending on condition of your machine
Quoted from mozach:Any way to get those custom side rails in the US?
They were done by a company called Railways in Australia. Not sure if shipping to the USA is an option
Quoted from thechakapakuni:Airballs where?
Off the top of the left G ramp on the way up. Ball regularly lands on the back left green whirlpool ramp
Quoted from thechakapakuni:Yeah check the tightness of the flap, if it’s too tight the ball will get air. I have zero jumps off that ramp. Also what is your pin set at? Maybe try lifting it a couple degrees
Don't think it has a kink (must be the pics) I'll still loosen it and see. Machine is at 7 degrees
Quoted from Chosen_S:Anyone know where to get the g ramp decal with slash on it?
https://www.rtbb.com.au/product/guns-n-roses-g-ramp-decal-set/
Quoted from thechakapakuni:+2 on that. I’d actually take the worn out paint around the flippers over this. It looks like a chastity belt for flipper buttons. I think somebody had some nice engraved ones somewhere back in this thread. I’d look at those instead
That was me but mine are custom done in Australia. Not sure of the shipping costs for rails to the USA
C62FF6FF-83CB-405B-9F29-1978E993179A (resized).jpegQuoted from thechakapakuni:There you go, that’s it. Yeah that is legit, blends in nicely
Thank you for the compliment sir
Here is how it was originally done in raw. Then I had them powdercoated black. You’d have to cut into the cabinet I guess for a lighted option, I just painted that section red under (thought that was better than say white)
Yea it’s slightly back from the very front of the cabinet but I don’t have the original files to send you. Was made by Pinsider Railways but he hasn’t been on here for about 3 years
46539E47-C479-4729-A778-8A8C30543046 (resized).jpeg585D1F6A-49DC-4022-824C-4B2EF32DD7B3 (resized).jpegQuoted from Gazz_anderson:Recently picked up a GNRS!
Started doing a playfield tear down and acquiring new parts to put back on it - Ramps, drop targets, plastics etc.
Anyone able to help with the correct placement of my new drop target decals?
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I’ll talk in number of black keys as I don’t know the name of them lol
So it’s 2,3,2 on the left bank and 3,2,3 on the right bank
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Mine are the opposite Chaka and were like that on the original flyer. But I’m anal and wanted them the same. They were also that way when I got the machine.
It really doesn’t matter though. Someone had album covers instead which looked pretty cool
Quoted from allsportdvd:Mine are the opposite Chaka and were like that on the original flyer. They were also that way when I got the machine.
It really doesn’t matter though. Someone had album covers instead which looked pretty cool
08AC296C-DA28-4E1C-AD81-82ECCC24689B (resized).jpegQuoted from shepP:Marco sells that image as part of a sticker set for GnR. Would be cool to find out where it originated on a prototype machine.
What’s on the other side? I assume Marco has both sides of the spinner in their set?
Quoted from loanguy7171973:For all you guys that have added a color DMD did you go LED or LCD. I’m going to order one and am curious what everyone likes best and why. Thanks!
Bear in mind if you go lcd you’ll need to cut away part of the back of the speaker panel to make it fit. If that bothers you I’d go led
Quoted from insight75:From what I remember its just the threaded rods that need to be cut so the LCD will fit correctly.
I think that’s it. Definitely had to cut a part away, the posts sound about right
Quoted from pacman11:You guys ever light the snake up?
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Yes I did on my restore
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Quoted from gweempose:It's definitely not something you would typically expect to see in Australia.
Yea it's a Stern NFL themed into the Dolphins. I'm an American trapped in an Australians body 
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