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GUNS N' ROSES CLUB - GNR - Members Only!


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#1351 32 days ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Thanks for the help. Don’t have the capacity to do board work but it would be helpful to isolate the issue. I may end up having to buy a new board. I am trying to see if a friend will try the board in his GnR. Jim

If you are going to buy a replacement board anyways, it might be worth trying. It's not really hard to unsolder/solder in a new component. Figure a new SCR will be $2; a new board could be over $100. Just fruit for thought. I totally understand not wanting to get into the nitty gritty of board work.

#1352 32 days ago
Quoted from Grandnational007:

If you are going to buy a replacement board anyways, it might be worth trying. It's not really hard to unsolder/solder in a new component. Figure a new SCR will be $2; a new board could be over $100. Just fruit for thought. I totally understand not wanting to get into the nitty gritty of board work.

Thanks, maybe I will give it a try. Lets see how much work is required and if a beginner can manage it. Will try to get some closer photos tonight.

#1353 31 days ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Thanks for the details. If I remove the board and post some close up photos, do you think you could visually spot any issues?

Here are some photos of the flipper board. Any noticable issues? Thanks for the help.

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#1354 31 days ago

Hard to tell, but 1st photo....top row...2 pins on the left appear suspect...possibly cracked solder.. Reflow?

#1355 31 days ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Here are some photos of the flipper board. Any noticable issues? Thanks for the help.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

When you upload, change the dropdown to "original size, no rescaling" so it doesn't shrink the picture when it's uploaded. What's here is too small. Cold solder cracks are fine and hard to see at the size available with these shrunk pictures.

That said, these seem like trouble spots:
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Two diodes related to the upper left flipper (D4, D5)
A small diode related to the lower left flipper (D6)

I don't see anything related to the lower right, except maybe the 12th pin on CN2, but I'm not sure if that connects to the right flipper.

Anyway, I bet just re-flowing these points would get your board mostly or fully operational. No time like the present to learn. As long as you get a temperature controlled soldering iron ($100 amazon.com link » ) and some good solder, it's hard to mess up re-flowing solder as long as you remember NEVER TO FORCE IT. If the old solder isn't melting, add some new solder and don't leave the iron on the bad for more than a couple seconds.

Youtube video on how to reflow solder:

That guy has way too big of a tip on his iron for the work he's doing, but overall in the ballpark of the information you need. You can likely do this repair yourself, and you'll learn a new skill in the process!

#1356 31 days ago

How is this one?

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#1357 31 days ago

You can likely do this repair yourself, and you'll learn a new skill in the process!Thanks very much for the help! I will try to swap the board out in another GnR so I can see if it is actually the board.

One other thing that happened was when I held down the left flipper, all the sound would go off. Does that make sense? Thank you.

#1358 31 days ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

One other thing that happened was when I held down the left flipper, all the sound would go off. Does that make sense? Thank you.

I'm no engineer nor do I play one on TV but that flipper board should have absolutely nothing to do with your sound IMO

#1359 31 days ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Thanks for the help. Don’t have the capacity to do board work but it would be helpful to isolate the issue. I may end up having to buy a new board. I am trying to see if a friend will try the board in his GnR. Jim

A solder reflow is a 10-40 minute job max. Probably closer to 10 minutes. Let someone try to do that for you (if you don't solder), before buying a new board.
(if you have a local enough guy to lend a hand).

good luck!

#1360 31 days ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

How is this one?[quoted image]

Size looks the same. I guess you can just take a closer picture of the areas I pointed out with the orange arrows to see how they look with better resolution, but at the get least, get a temp controlled solder station ordered and a roll of thin solder so you can be ready to fix this once you verify it is indeed the board.

#1361 31 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

Size looks the same. I guess you can just take a closer picture of the areas I pointed out with the orange arrows to see how they look with better resolution, but at the get least, get a temp controlled solder station ordered and a roll of thin solder so you can be ready to fix this once you verify it is indeed the board.

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#1362 31 days ago
Quoted from Freeplay40:

Pinside automatically resizes (downsizes) any attached photos.

Not if you select "original size" on the dropdown when uploading.

#1363 30 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

Not if you select "original size" on the dropdown when uploading.

Ahhhh...Good to know. Never noticed that.

#1364 30 days ago

Geez, 5 hours and I’ve installed all but 1 cliffy, and half of the new rubbers.

And.....my freaking gate that lets the ball into the snake pit doesn't have room to open and close.

But, I made progress, haha.

I am only guessing, but it probably took me 2 hours to get those freakin cliffys on the yellow ramp.

#1365 29 days ago

Best fucking part, I cant get the fucking yellow ramp door to open and close so I do some tweaking to it.

All done, new rubbers, wax it.

Apparently my adjustment to make that door able to work had the yellow ramp too high. Shattered the piece of shit when re installing the glass.

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#1366 29 days ago

Oh man that is brutal!!!! That’s the worst I am sorry to see that! There are repro ramps around for sure, can ou even play it in that condition?

#1367 29 days ago

Well that sux.

#1368 29 days ago
Quoted from Dkjimbo:

Oh man that is brutal!!!! That’s the worst I am sorry to see that! There are repro ramps around for sure, can ou even play it in that condition?

Nope. I may be able to glue it so I can play it, but I still have the issue of the door on that ramp not opening and closing.

#1369 29 days ago

Ah Man... what a bummer indeed. So sorry to see that. Thanks for sharing.

#1370 29 days ago
Quoted from TronGuy:

Best fucking part, I cant get the fucking yellow ramp door to open and close so I do some tweaking to it.
All done, new rubbers, wax it.
Apparently my adjustment to make that door able to work had the yellow ramp too high. Shattered the piece of shit when re installing the glass.[quoted image]

maybe mark has a extra laying around still?

#1371 27 days ago
Quoted from TronGuy:

Nope. I may be able to glue it so I can play it, but I still have the issue of the door on that ramp not opening and closing.

It's a simple mech, but can bind easily. It took me a few days to get mine ironed out. Biggest issue is making sure the plunger is dead on straight, and the nut and washer don't hit the habit trail below it.

Reach out if you want a second set of eyes on it.

#1372 27 days ago
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:

maybe mark has a extra laying around still?

I fixed him up.

#1373 25 days ago
Quoted from Freeplay40:

I fixed him up.

Yes he did, thanks!

I have the new ramp in my possession. I assume some of the gate parts are riveted? So I need to drill them out and re-rivet them back into the new ramp?

Also does anyone sell the slash sticker that goes on the ramp? Mine is reusable, but a new one would be nice.

#1374 25 days ago

Well my rivets wouldn't fit through both pieces of metal and the ramp so I used small bolts.

This is as close as I am going to get.

Edit: good thing I used bolts instead of rivets here. Loosening the screws are helping me line things up.
Updated pic later.

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#1375 25 days ago

New ramp installed.

Door still has no room to open/close, but that problem is for another day.

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#1376 25 days ago

What is the door hitting? I cant tell from that side, maybe take one from the other angle and show what its hitting?

I seemed to had this issue for a minute and needed to move/adjust something

#1377 25 days ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

What is the door hitting? I cant tell from that side, maybe take one from the other angle and show what its hitting?
I seemed to had this issue for a minute and needed to move/adjust something

From.the pics, I am guessing it's the locknut and washer, and it's hitting the black habit trail.

#1378 25 days ago
Quoted from dsuperbee:

From.the pics, I am guessing it's the locknut and washer, and it's hitting the black habit trail.

yep and adjusting that got me into a situation where I destroyed my original ramp (after spending hours cliffy-ing it up)

I'm leaving for CAX tomorrow, so I will deal with it some time after I get back.

does someone sell the slash sticker?

#1379 24 days ago
Quoted from TronGuy:

yep and adjusting that got me into a situation where I destroyed my original ramp (after spending hours cliffy-ing it up)
I'm leaving for CAX tomorrow, so I will deal with it some time after I get back.
does someone sell the slash sticker?

I am in sac, and have offered to help.I got mine working great, I can assist if needed.

#1380 24 days ago
Quoted from dsuperbee:

I am in sac, and have offered to help.I got mine working great, I can assist if needed.

I remember you offering (thank you)

I will be hitting you up at some point

#1381 24 days ago

To avoid breaking it of course, maybe remove the wire form & ramp from the game completely so you can bend the wireform separately from any attachment to the ramp. The ramp should have zero tweeking needed whatsoever, it will be the surrounding parts

I can take pics of mine working when I get home later and maybe you can compare

#1382 24 days ago
Quoted from TronGuy:

Also does anyone sell the slash sticker that goes on the ramp? Mine is reusable, but a new one would be nice.

Bay Area Amusement sells a decal set that includes that decal.

http://bayareaamusements.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GS-GNR98

#1383 24 days ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

To avoid breaking it of course, maybe remove the wire form & ramp from the game completely so you can bend the wireform separately from any attachment to the ramp. The ramp should have zero tweeking needed whatsoever, it will be the surrounding parts
I can take pics of mine working when I get home later and maybe you can compare

Shouldn't have to tweak any of the ramp parts. You are right about the actual ramp not needing tweaking. For mine it was the washer needed to be trimmed slightly, and the plunger needs to be dead nuts straight. Any sort of friction between the plunger and coil sleeve means a hangup

#1384 24 days ago

Does anyone have a replacement gun for GNR as the shipping company (STI) destroyed it?

Thanks in advance

#1385 23 days ago
Quoted from dsuperbee:

From.the pics, I am guessing it's the locknut and washer, and it's hitting the black habit trail.

Agreed, make sure this bolt slides right inbetween the wireframe gap. There’s barely room but that needs to flow freely. If it’s hitting, you adjust the wire form only - and not the ramp or trap door assembly
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#1386 23 days ago

As a side note, this mini GNR screen has to be one of the best mods ever. Lots of classic video of the band in the good ol days. Hopefully JJP has something like this and is capturing a lot of footage for the new game

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#1387 23 days ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

As a side note, this mini GNR screen has to be one of the best mods ever. Lots of classic video of the band in the good ol days. Hopefully JJP has something like this and is capturing a lot of footage for the new game[quoted image][quoted image]

i once made a mod like this, with a 7" tablet i butchered, but i died on me because i wasn`t able to shut i down properly.....

#1388 23 days ago
Quoted from DorkVonWaterfall:

i once made a mod like this, with a 7" tablet i butchered, but i died on me because i wasn`t able to shut i down properly.....

This one runs non stop. There’s an MFG that makes the stock product, but not sure where the GNR screen print got done

#1389 23 days ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

This one runs non stop. There’s an MFG that makes the stock product, but not sure where the GNR screen print got done

I used to see those for sale at Chicago PINEXPO everyear. I was interested but leery because of price and the idea of a steel ball hurling towards it , but looks like yours has done just fine

#1390 23 days ago
Quoted from HighwayStarr:

I used to see those for sale at Chicago PINEXPO everyear. I was interested but leery because of price and the idea of a steel ball hurling towards it , but looks like yours has done just fine

Yeah it’s in a place where it doesn’t get hit otherwise I’m guessing it would be toast. This one came with the machine, and the price did seem steep from what I’ve seen. If you go directly to the mfg it’s not bad, somebody was making a grip on these. It’s just a small board that takes micro sd cards. Still looks cool. I dumped the Slash doll as it just seemed corny

#1391 23 days ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

It’s just a small board that takes micro sd cards. Still looks cool. I dumped the Slash doll as it just seemed corny

LOL... that’s why I added booze, amps, more guitars and cigarettes to mine. Oh and it’s not a “doll” , it’s an Action Figure!

#1392 22 days ago

Well it ain’t in action anymore, it’s out of action in a plastic bin with other pinball parts

2 weeks later
#1393 9 days ago

If you have a Pinsound card for your GnR, I highly recommend the Pinsound Data East booster cable. My GnR's sound was in and out often and this cable seems to have completely fix the issue. So if you notice the sound breaking up sometimes with the Pinsound, worth the small investment.

#1394 9 days ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

If you have a Pinsound card for your GnR, I highly recommend the Pinsound Data East booster cable. My GnR's sound was in and out often and this cable seems to have completely fix the issue. So if you notice the sound breaking up sometimes with the Pinsound, worth the small investment.

Yeah I don’t why they don’t make that mandatory. I accidentally found out it even existed when I was talking with one of the Pinsound guys. All Data East machines pretty much require it or you’ll get exactly what you explained there

#1395 7 days ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

If you have a Pinsound card for your GnR, I highly recommend the Pinsound Data East booster cable. My GnR's sound was in and out often and this cable seems to have completely fix the issue. So if you notice the sound breaking up sometimes with the Pinsound, worth the small investment.

Thanks for the info! That’s really annoying.

#1396 6 days ago

Saw Slash last night in Atlanta great show. 3rd time seeing them.

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#1397 5 days ago

Cool thanks for posting the pics. Slash is awesome.. wish you could have asked him how the JJ GnR machine is coming

#1398 5 days ago

Hey so my new left ramp gets some "fliers", meaning the ball is traveling so fast it jumps through the ramp into the upper part of the cab and doesn't spin the way you may expect.

Admittedly, I was fortunate and got a repro ramp that was defined as "a second", though it looks fantastic. It is awesome.

I am thinking of putting a "lid" on the ramp right around the front half.

I would appreciate any insight/advice, etc.

#1399 5 days ago

You have a picture of the ramp entrance? Curious if it’s launching off something

#1400 1 day ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

If you have a Pinsound card for your GnR, I highly recommend the Pinsound Data East booster cable. My GnR's sound was in and out often and this cable seems to have completely fix the issue. So if you notice the sound breaking up sometimes with the Pinsound, worth the small investment.

Just installed the booster. Works great. Been looking for a solution to sound breaking up for years.. thought x pin power board would solve it and did not. Thanks!!!

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