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JJP GNR standard snake wireform mod project

By Loganpinball

3 months ago


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#1 3 months ago

I am very busy making Mandalorian pro wireforms and they are my priority, but I got a standard gnr machine and some ideas. I am a lunatic and enjoy making things. I do not like the look of the catwalk wireforms, so my dementia has kicked in again and they have to go. I am making a full set of wireforms with the stainless steel rods. I have 2 ideas for upper playfield that are in the process. But, I am banging out wireforms tonight. I will post upper when its presentable. As always I figure some of you might like to follow another hairbrained idea.
The rest of the weekend I am going back to mando rails. Lets see how far I can get tonight.

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#2 3 months ago

Not done, but damn close. Debating on right side divertor. I can figure it out with rails, but not sure its worth it?

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#3 3 months ago

Now just need to make this drop and mech work.

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#4 3 months ago

great work!!!!

#5 3 months ago
Quoted from Yesh23:

great work!!!!

Thanks! I got the two wireforms done and the divertor works!

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#6 3 months ago

Looks great!

Great idea, those GnR ramps sure are chintzy in person. I also noticed the left one shaking all over the place when i was playing it on location.

#7 3 months ago

Play tested and approved! Got them tuned in this morning. Upper playfield is up next.

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#8 3 months ago

Sitting here looking at the playfield for ideas on upper playfield and looking at Slash’s hat and I see the plastics over the vuk.... I think I got a direction to try. A 3d wireform boa constrictor. The standard upper playfield plastics are just crap to take up the space. I think I can make this work and a stainless steel boa ball spitting head next to Slash peeks my interest. I think I can make the tail go to return lane. I am nuts. But I like to try ideas. Forgive my lunacy.. paper is just to see it visually in my head and for scale. Going smaller than drawing. I put a scrapped rail on head to see it for size

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#9 3 months ago
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#10 3 months ago

Wow, incredible work!

#11 3 months ago
Quoted from rapidflipper:

Wow, incredible work!

Thanks! Wait until its all together. I can see it in my head. And the ramp is wide enough to do something cool. You will be able to hug the left side of ramp and the ball will hook into wireform to ball return. Center to right side of ramp will go up to snake head and cone out the mouth! I will relocate the ramp switch so its in the head part and the tail will be return switch. Posting as I build it. I enjoy making ramps!

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#12 3 months ago

I also own a standard, and agree that the upper stage is pretty lame. I considered adding some additional sculpts and instruments, but like your ramp mod much better. Can’t wait to see how it works.

Quoted from Loganpinball:

Thanks! Wait until its all together. I can see it in my head. And the ramp is wide enough to do something cool. You will be able to hug the left side of ramp and the ball will hook into wireform to ball return. Center to right side of ramp will go up to snake head and cone out the mouth! I will relocate the ramp switch so its in the head part and the tail will be return switch. Posting as I build it. I enjoy making ramps!
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#13 3 months ago

Bad part is I have to make left lower rails again to match the snake.. progressing nicely.

I was asked about making these for other people. I am open to it as I already make and sell mandalorian ramps, but these would be expensive to sell with all the labor involved. I will consider it when I am done..

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#14 3 months ago

Mocked up and loose it works great! I need to make transition to ramp, brackets and braces.

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#15 3 months ago

Video of it working on floor.

#16 3 months ago

Very cool work! I'd be interested in hearing how much for the wireforms when you're complete.

#17 3 months ago

Getting there...

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#18 3 months ago

Upper done! Brackets installed and fitted. I need to stone and polish. Very happy with the look..

14 hours just for this top wireform start to finish. The labor would be alot if I sold these. And I am not done!

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#19 3 months ago

Wow, fantastic work! Can't wait to see them chrome plated

#20 3 months ago

Looks awesome. Have you tested the snake wire form on the playfield yet? Wondering if the flippers have enough strength to send it the whole way. Also wondering if the wire form exit sends the ball straight down the middle. Easy to adjust for both those issues if they are present. Love your creativity, and it looks amazing.

#21 3 months ago

Drilled off band from upper plastic and I put them in different spots on playfield. I think I am putting the guitar in back left corner.(higher than in picture). I need to add body circles to lower left wireform to complete snake.
I really like the game as I am a fan of the music. But, that upper plastic is just lame and it had to go. The only reason I got this game was the price and it was from someone I have dealt with before. 10,500 for the other models are just too stupid. Way too stupid!

Quoted from Flipper_Ripper:

Looks awesome. Have you tested the snake wire form on the playfield yet? Wondering if the flippers have enough strength to send it the whole way. Also wondering if the wire form exit sends the ball straight down the middle. Easy to adjust for both those issues if they are present. Love your creativity, and it looks amazing.

Yes The flipper strength is fine. Making the snake head is the new shot. You can only get it from left flipper as soon as it clears the sling. All other shots round off to ball return. This also made me happier as the size of the ramp is just so damn big! Now its a challenge with 2 shots on same ramp. I am moving the switch to the snake right before the head.
The head is slight shifted and the ball heads to right flipper and does not drain..
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#22 3 months ago

You can use the boney beast ramp bones / skull from scared stiff

#23 3 months ago

Oh Sxxt! I was able to just add the body rings!

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#24 3 months ago

Really amazing. Will the snake ramp register as a Stage shot? I originally thought it fed into the scoop, but sounds like it feeds back to a flipper.

#25 3 months ago
Quoted from rapidflipper:

Really amazing. Will the snake ramp register as a Stage shot? I originally thought it fed into the scoop, but sounds like it feeds back to a flipper.

The switch that was on turn around ramp to flipper is now in the head. The head shot is very tight in ramp, 90 percent of shots do hook into ball return lane and thats too high. Worse case i will make it feed the head only and go from there. Maybe a one way angled gate for weak shots feeds it to return?

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#26 3 months ago

Short video of snake head 2 shot ramp. Needs tweaking, but its there.

#27 3 months ago

I would mylar the heck out of that whole ball drop area, because uh... you know.

#28 3 months ago
Quoted from yancy:

I would mylar the heck out of that whole ball drop area, because uh... you know.

Jjp has it covered already. The ball lands on mylar now. The le balls drop from same height and area, so I think were good. I was going to put some down and was suprised that is was already done. But, I understand the thought so thanks.

#29 3 months ago

Watching this thread with some interest...

#30 3 months ago

You have some amazing skills! Well done.

#31 3 months ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

You have some amazing skills! Well done.

Thanks! I wish this was my full time job.

#32 3 months ago

So if it doesn’t make the snake path it doesn’t register as a made shot?

#33 3 months ago
Quoted from nicoy3k:

So if it doesn’t make the snake path it doesn’t register as a made shot?

Yes. The made ramp switch is up by the snake head.

#34 3 months ago

Just curious for oppinions. Would there be interest in just the wireforms that replace the catwalks? I was thinking this is my next wireforms for sale. The right rail is a little complicated and takes a little more labor to make. I will make those two wireforms again now that I have it figured out and I can nail down a price with labor.

Currently still working on the snake. The transition from the plastic ramp to wireform needs to be completed in a way that does not require the plastic ramp to be altered. Still working that out. The upper snake and snake body on lower rails takes alot of labor. It looks great, but the cost might be too much to try and sell. It took 19 hours to figure it out and to make. I might do better time wise as I already have it worked out. I will make another snake and see. Appreciate any thoughts on one or the other. Thanks.

#35 3 months ago
Quoted from Loganpinball:

Just curious for oppinions. Would there be interest in just the wireforms that replace the catwalks?

LE here; I’d be down for just the two catwalk replacements.

#36 3 months ago
Quoted from Blackjacker:

LE here; I’d be down for just the two catwalk replacements.

I will keep your info. Thanks for the input.

I altered the ramp entrance to simplify the shots.. Solid shots make it to head and weak to lame shots hit ball gate which directs it to tail. Double gates to clear support.

Quick video of this ball gate working with shots to head and tail. Quick mock up assembly used to verify it.

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#37 3 months ago

Got it completed. Made transition for ramp and had to make gate a hair bigger. Only thing left is raising the guitar in back corner. Axle, Slash and Duff are in new spots. And I scrapped the skull shooter rod.
Happy how it came out and its functional. Jjp should not do standard games, they really look cheap stripped down.

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