That's up to you. I'd say largest caliber that you can maintain control of in terms of shot placement.

I'm not sure how bad your laws are there but I wouldn't be surprised if someone recommends a Judge with 3" wheel.

I'm on the fence about keeping my Rawhide and also thinking about a 9mm wheel gun new or used.....hmmm

I haven't done pins for target toys before tho.

Just sent you a PM, looking for some other blackout recipes. Have about 12 die sets on hand.

Last October I bought two complete lowers for $99 for a couple quick builds. I bought these from Sportsman's guide mini showroom since I live a few minutes from their corporate headquarters. One of them he had to sell me for 10% off because it was their demo in the display case (I don't want to know how many times it was snapped but I'm not one who worries about dry firing anymore)

One month later I bring my coworker in there because he wants one too. Salesperson tells me they haven't had any "in a few weeks". The below picture I took last week 3/18 a few minutes before they were supposed to open. I was turned away and I didn't stick around to see what he was changing the sign to but I can guess at least 1 of the 6 letter words he was about to put up......

Good luck!

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My first took about 14 months (picked up last fall). On site paperwork filed for the next one and that arrived as soon as they started cancelling large gatherings this spring. Had USPS drop it off for me.

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A little more pricey and a little more waiting if you don't mind.

Depends if you want an SBR or not. Portability wise it's a LOT more friendly to move around or carry.

You get what you pay for I've fired one once and enjoyed it. Definitely doesn't feel cheap.

Yes $200 per Class 3 device

That may not apply to SBRs only suppressors. They are delivered into your mailbox via USPS.

If it's a subsequent device they will just amend the trust the first was written on (assuming it was done that way) and then you can docusign your paperwork. This is how I received my second from them. Pick up in show was my first choice but show was canceled this spring due to COVID19

I enjoyed it. I've never owned one but based on my experience I wouldn't pass one up for the right price.

The proper sights will make/break your experience I'm sure. Just like most everything else.

Background checks for May had a record breaking year in almost 20 years. Oddly checks used to be higher around the holiday season but I think we'll be trending away from that going forward.

Picked up a Ruger PC carbine today in .40 I need to get a different thread connector if I want to add my can to the end tho.

Got it used for a decent price.

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Has anyone on here have any experience with the Franklin Armory Binary trigger?

Thinking of picking one up but $430 a little steep for a trigger group.

Ammo not selling too well up here....that's because it's sold out.

Even the bullets are out of stock on my go-to sources.

My "novelty" bullets are still waiting to be loaded; some of mine are the red version of Zmax. Funny, I worked for an ammo company years ago and these were always popular.

Haven't decided what to load my frangible 308's in. Would be fun to do 300 win mag but afraid it will leave the bore as dust haha.

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I've ran my Taurus 627 tracker into the ground. It's still going strong but I would not buy another one and would have gotten a nicer once had I known how much I would enjoy wheel guns.

I would also avoid Sccy pistols and also avoid Skyy vodka. If you don't know how to spell it you don't know how to make it.

My dad bought a Jiminez 380 and that is such a Sat. pm Spec. It's sad because for $150 pistol you can spend just a little more and get a lot more.

I have two lever rifles one cost me $250 and the other $950 and you can feel the difference in the action alone.

Buying cheap is expensive.

My only hiccup with Remington is I got an 870 which was one of their first with the hammered finish. They didn't know how to apply this new paint correctly and it was faking off before I even fired it. Sent back to factory and they refinished it for me and all is well.

Nice! What's the biggest cal it can take?

I shot last weekend with some 300 blackout I loaded up and to my surprise I'm actually going to have to lighten the load. I had about 7 or 8 out of 10 break the sound barrier.

Shooting anything larger while silent would probably need to be orbiting the earth XD

This is going to sound silly, but, best to stop by the ammo shelves first to see what's in stock :/

I borrowed my dads for a couple years. Took it out once. I find it hard to "get down" on the sights and if you mount anything other than open sights forget folding it up. You CAN by an aftermarket rail that snaps things to the side. But now you have a lot more money into the thing. On the plus side it packs up well and if you have Glock mags you are already good to go. I'm sure Hickok 45 or the usual suspects on YouTube have shot these.

The front sight moves pretty easily....which can be both good and bad.

I picked up a Ruger PC Carbine and like it MUCH more. Mine was used but also got it for $400.

I wouldn't say the Sub 2K is BAD.....but for other benefits for similar money you might be happier with something else.

In my experience it's jam-o-matic too but maybe the one I shot was too new. I also have a Bersa thunder which is a look a like except it weighs even less.....so you can guess what that means haha.

Have you been buying from the same seller? Mine usually just amends my trust and I e-sign the paper work. I don't even have to show up anywhere when they ship in the mail.

I'm not sure if the same can be done with SBRs. If so a person could just start buying all their guns like that and never even leave the house.

I was going to ask what that door did to p*** him off.

Last year I picked up 147 grain 9mm 1000 rds for $159 shipped. Probably won't see those days any time soon but SG always good on their prices.

I'm starting to see that you'd be a fun person to hang out next to. Now, when I say NEXT to, I mean next to. Maybe behind but definitely not in front of.

Trying to get motivated to shoot tomorrow afternoon. Being sick of the cheap range provided target holders or lack thereof; this afternoon I decided to take matters into my own hands at just under $21

If you look on the work bench you will see a note that I pulled off an old EM when I bought it that had a coil pulled in. They couldn't decide how many games was enough before it needed to be turned off.

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I just threw electrical tape up on for the picture but I'll lower it a bit with clear tape and secure on more sides. I was thinking about doing twine with those office binder clip thingies but I'm not sure if that's overkill. I made it extra wide since I might carry this down to 150+ yards and have as close as pistol. Not pictured I also made 1x extra of each piece in case I have nasty misfires. I won't be doing any shotgun or bump fires with this.

Where I shoot they have raised berms all around. What I like about that is I can do down range safely while the shooter next to me can be firing away. Plus we are halfway in the woods. In theory I SHOULD be okay from target-flag-syndrome.

When I used to visit the range in FL with my dad we had one in the middle of the swamp and the target holder was smaller and didn't have any tip issues.

It’s not bad. It’s not super high quality but for $200 you get a 380 with good sights.

When you seat your mag in it drops the slide for you automatically so that’s kind of nice.

Definitely no plans to sell mine.

Oh I didn’t even see you are local. If you wanted to meet up at a range and take mine for a spin you are more than welcome to.

This morning I picked up a Williams Superstar pinball. On the way back I ran into Scheels and walked out with this...

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What surprised me is that this one is used. Looks to be in really good condition.

I wish more people had this mindset

I also reload for all my calibers excluding .22LR 12ga and 30-30. At the rate I shoot my one and only case of 30-30 ammo I should run out around the time I’m 140 years old.

My limiting factor now is projectiles and have a few 1,000 in 9x19 probably 5,000 in 357 cause I shoot that the most. Maybe 2,000 in .40 for both 40SW and 10mm. It goes down hill from there. I do load 7.62x39 brass as this is the second time historically it makes sense to.

Loaded stuff I don’t keep much more than a couple hundred rounds and have some (1600) 9mm from when it wasn’t worth my time to reload.

Lucky for me I’ll never be good enough for serious competition....maybe if I own a home someday where I can shoot out the back yard every day. That’s been a dream of mine that would be at least a decade away.

I do like your modified sight.

I’d be lucky if I got one of those. It would probably be awarded for showing up to the range more often than I currently do :/

You should definitely be proud.

Over my reloading bench I have empty scope boxes and pinball backglasses.

Looks like more fun on the way. I just hope they never adjust that tax for inflation or I’m all done with class 3 toys

Ahhhh....it’s still showing up as of now....

I was hoping too but I went on pinside on a browser that I normally don't use and I still see them there. I can see them on my phone and laptop. Apparently these are 3 different attachments? Might not hurt to contact pinside admin at this point. I'm honestly not sure what a person could even do with that data tho. I'm not sure if that's for checking status with BCA/ATF.

Three day shipping. Wow, I remember we always used to offer same day shipping. Times HAVE changed.

I better get to work.....those bullets aren't going to load themselves.

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Or maybe there's no buying 9mm for awhile at sane prices so that's a good reason to stock up when prices are low. Continue to shoot but don't buy, but then resume buying when things bet better. Your shooting and buying habits don't necessarily need to match year over year.

I love concrete bench rests, maybe some covering to keep things getting scratched but it's so annoying to have a loose wooden bench....like those at my range. I'll have to snap a couple pics next time I go.

Do you reload for that cal? I know they used to sell a lot of pulled bullets what were easy to find. I think some of them even had tracer powder at the base of them.

That almost sounds like something out of a movie.

So I told her I'm looking for a little one. She said, me too, mines as big as a house.

Time for a mag well change. I only have one Ruger mag that came with this....Glock however.....

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Well that took all of 10 minutes. Now we can bench rest with 10rd mags or power through some bowling pins at 50rds

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Went to the range today. Plenty of shotgun shells available.

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If that takes quarters that’s a good deal on 9mm if it spits out a few rounds per crank.

Several companies cover their lead in polymer instead of copper. They actually function quite nicely. I’ve used Blue Bullets before and had good results. However I have way too many boxes with Xtreme plated as well as Precision Delta for my full loads.

I don’t order ammo anymore but I feel this way about bullets I order.

I don’t see why not. Hopefully O/U or any shotguns aren’t hard to find on the local level?

Feels good to be back at the press it’s been a season. Trying a new 147gr 9mm load for the can.

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Made it to the range today with these goodies. Pleased to find a load I like for 300 BLK and 9mm so now I’ll have something to reload these winter months.

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Found this on GT. I actually paid $160 shipped a couple years ago. CCI aluminum though....but it was 147 sub.

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Southern MN has plenty of calibers for piston and rifle but you’ll pay for it.

I bought some steel cased 9mm earlier this year for $10 a box and kicked myself for awhile cause I try to avoid steel cased ammo....not feeling that way anymore.

Took off work a little early today.

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I’m a huge fan of Glock I have 4 of their models but yeah I picked up an XDm9 and I have to be honest I like it a bit more. That being said my newest Glock is only a Gen3 and Glock has stepped their game up since Gen3. Either or both are great in my opinion.

Another +1 to an 870 for your 12ga I got one of the first batches of their defense line of 870 years ago that came standard with a door breaching choke tube. It will pattern like an open cylinder. I think the main difference is the shorter barrel and longer magazine tube. They have a hammered finish too. For a small price you can get a longer barrel if you want to hunt or trap shoot. Or leave the barrel alone. I’ve shot the mossberg but never owned one. You will save some money and you will feel the difference in price. At the end of the day they will both go bang if that’s all you are worried about.

Nice thing about Glocks are the aftermarket parts available. If you think you want a beefier caliber to carry with but practice a lot with smaller you can buy a 9mm conversion barrel for you .40 as an example.

Might not hurt to make a GT account if you don't have one already. They've been around forever (GlockTalk). Lot's of people and there is PLENTY to find in there even if you don't own a Glock, or even like them for that matter. Their OT page is as busy as the entire site of Pinside.

I haven't done much with Full30 it's supposedly a 2A friendly version of YouTube.

But yeah I get your point. Close by here in the Twin Cities is a suburb called St. Anthony. If you google that now it's making national news for someone getting shamed for lighting up their wreath and gutters with lighting. Basically anything can be shamed/politicized these days.

Be safe and happy shooting. I talk to some of my coworkers from time to time and we chat guns; I always have to be the A hole and point out the features I can have and they can't. Back when I sold ammo for a living we had a lot of trains that would run our product cross country. CA is an ammo hungry state that much I know.

We can still receive to the house.

If you (s1590) can stand the 50 minute drive south to Ahlmans I’ll bet they still have some in stock.

Any reasonable prices there?

Gunbroker and Armslist seems like mostly flippers to resell at a higher price.

I’m out of the ammo game for now since I reload and stocked up.

Even if you don’t reload I recommend checking out Powder Valley’s website they have an excellent write up about the shortage of primers for both reloaded and ammo manufacturing. That seems to be the limiting factor for production.

Check early and often. A lot of online retailers will “bleed” cases onto their site to make sure everyone gets a chance. No more ammo at Walmart in MN. I think I posted a sign I saw last year at Sportsman’s guides outlet showroom saying “welcome Walmart customers”.

I won’t get started with some retailers over others and their practices through tough ammo times. Usually turns out some people will swear BY them, while others will swear AT them.

Good call! I have the 27 in 40 cal which is a beefy caliber for that size but your 26 will be very manageable. That will be a keeper for you.

Side stepping a bit I think the 9mm vs .40 vs 45 debate will be a never ending argument that is a waste of energy. I mean there are obviously going to be some ballistic differences between 9 and 45 but at the end of the day hitting your target is what matters most.

They exist. I know Kimber makes a lot of mini 1911's I don't have any.

Glock 30 and 36 are pretty compact too.

Plus that's a fun caliber to suppress if you want to down the road.

They actually shoot smoother than a .40 in my experience.

The only two 45's I have are a High Standard 1911 and the other I built from scratch. The receiver I bought online and it was registered (Hi ATF!)

Now show us your box full of scope rings for all those

One of my least favorite things about shooting is getting all that lined up.

I haven’t looked recently as I’m not in the market. When you have a Henry lever for almost 4 years that’s never been fired it’s time to slow down on the buying haha.

However the best time to buy was 2019.

I just checked ammo briefly. $1.60 per round of 9mm. Course that’s fancy bullets. Target ammo non existent.

Yeah that's the problem. Once people get used to higher prices and the product still sells, they likely won't lower it.

HFK I know exactly how you feel with CTD. They are always the first to raise their prices and they raise the roof usually. Problem is, too many people have a short memory and set their feelings aside as soon as the prices come back down again.

Reminds me of one of my coworkers. Not a felon but he’s just such a kid at heart he has several nerf guns but he stores them in a pelican chest case. I couldn’t help but give him a hard time the box costs several fold more than what he’s storing. He’s a great guy tho.

Here’s what’s been handed down by my family. Jos S Smetz I’m probably spelling it wrong. Very beautiful but there is a fracture in the stock so I haven’t dared to shoot it. Maybe I will someday from the hip with a mini buck or something. Since I don’t have any memories of this thing I’d honestly entertain a pinball trade maybe someday. There’s only one gunsmith in the state that knows these Belgium guns, asked him if he was interested in repairing or buying it and basically hung up on me. That’s when nobody wanted to buy 5 or 6 years ago. I’m sure that’s changed now.

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I’m sure there are lots of precautions in place but I can’t see myself playing around with liquid lead. I get enough around shooting FMJ. I actually shoot as much TMJ copper plated for this reason. When I worked on pinball for a living I was soldering all the time and that caused an elevated leas level via a blood test.

I always like the self sufficient perspective but willing to pay more for copper jacketing.

I didn’t even mention cleaning guns.

It’s red tip V max just marketed differently and dyed a different color.

(I used to sell ammo for a living)

No reliability issues but as always, test in your piece before carrying.

That 300 blackout or 7.62x39?

Doesn’t look proportional for 308 but I haven’t looked at ammo most of this year it seems like.

My 300 blackout looks clear as day at 12:30 in the morning. (Note; scope was NOT mounted while pointed at the neighbors)

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At least you know your chamber is safe when there’s a laser pointer in it.

Anyone ever shot one of these ahhhh….thick credit card looking things? I was going to try holding one but was drooling all over a 10mm revolver instead.

Looks like they come in 22LR and 22WMR…which might be a little more punishing.

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At first glance I was thinking that was one of those binary triggers they made for the Ruger 10/22s

Coworker dropped this off last night for me to play with. I think the ammo is worth more than the gun right now?

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Ahlmans two days ago….

It’s pretty bad.

I could get 1lb of H110 for $40 if I wanted to. That’s the most common powder I recognized.

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Here’s why you stock up BEFORE.

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45 ACP saves the day on a NGG plunger assembly.

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Firearms aren’t an issue for stocking around here. Haven’t been in awhile. My range I go to an hour south of the cites has buying caps of 1 box per cal per person per day. Kind of an eyebrow raiser for being out in the country.

Reloading components are even worse.

You probably win.

My attention getter used to be my 300 win mag outdoors. When I’d go with my coworker after I pulled the trigger he’d yell out “that is not a recreational caliber”

Indoors it was my 10mm loaded to the brim with Blue Dot

(Here you can’t fire much for rifles indoors since most indoor ranges are built mostly for pistol….probably because there are plenty of outdoor ranges around here)

Dang 7.62x39 can’t seem to get under 50c a round. I remember when cases were about $200

I was able to meet up with him a couple weeks ago for a smoke unfortunately we both have stuff going on right now which makes it difficult but USMCSGT0331 is definitely an awesome person to hang out with. He even brought one of his kits with for me to inspect which I’m still tempted to pick up.

Nothing special to see here unlike the above. Two of my favorite KelTecs need some cleaning tonight.

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Wow nice pics too.

That thing looks really comfortable just needs a new butt pad. I’d definitely give you twice what you paid for it

Two more additions today. My coworker upgraded his trap gun so I bought his old one. For shotguns I only have an 870 so this is an upgrade for me. Got this little pea shooter at a good deal from him too. I’ve never really gotten into shotguns or 22s but in the era we live in the price was too good to pass up. Wife wanted them gone.

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I don’t think it was me

My first time on a canned 12ga

My friend did a slow mo video and I screen shot this.

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What kind of ammo are you feeding that thing? Back when I was in the gun business EVERYONE seemed to have jam issues and only like 1 or 2 brands would work. I recall 124gr bullets were always better. Brass a must.

Exactly. Out of state kind of hard.

I know the mods said….be lucky this thread is even in existence as it is so I wouldn’t push it.

Maybe just recognize local pinsiders and talk with them.

For example I’ve met up with USMCSGT0331 and whatever we do stays off pinside.

$35 for 100 shotshell primers around here.

I just looked at star line brass. Prices haven’t gone up on 357 but I think they’ve been on back order for about a decade. At least you can order

I tried my new (to me) one today. On the bottom. Top one I’ve had a long time.

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Cmon over I live there!

As long as we’re looking at wheels here’s my 3rd and final. I want to say I got this summer of 2020 for less than $1000 used which I thought was a steal. Got it on my way home from picking up a SuperStar pin too. I set a personal record 2 hour wait time on this.

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Which caliber?

I would recommend trying one before you purchase.

I’ve shot all their calibers and 357 is the most enjoyable. 50 is fun a few times but gets old pretty fast. It’s like holding a brick.

Haven’t been in the market for components recently. Found this while cleaning up the work bench. Going to throw it away so figured I’d post here first.

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Was woken up 6:00 this morning with automated message of approval from ATF for a device (finally) hopefully I can post pics soon when it arrives.

Check your e mail preference with them. Downside is you get a lot of messages about their site being offline for maintenance. Here’s what it looks like….(the text message was from the company I purchased with the e mail was from ATF)

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I think I was at 8 or 9 months. The last one I did the old way and THAT was about 90 days. Very likely this is my last one since I’ll now have one for almost everything. Pistol rifle and now shotgun.

My friend works in the card division at Social Security Administration. We’re lucky we’re getting anything processed.