assuming since it's basically a re-themed metallica. I don't see that being a bad thing. nothing stern has released lately has been that bad, even with star wars apparently there are enough people to like it for it to be #28. I haven't played it enough myself to pass judgement. Finally got a chance to put a descent amount of time on batman, I actually kind of liked it. Wouldn't ever own one but... So, even their "less popular" titles are still pretty fun, not sure, but I think that's what the majority of the people who own pins buy them for.

Maybe it was due to time constriction, money cost, laziness or since Metallica was rated really well, why change the basic format. some designers tend to keep it safe, which isn't a bad thing. Pinbot and jackbot are two of my favorite games. metallica and guardians at least look different, and will probably play completely different, with shots that are proven to work. After all the previous issues, if people are still pre-buying games, I'm sure most of them are aware of what they are getting into, it's their decision. If anything, it's good for the industry, someone has to be first.

that sucks

I was going to order a full protector for this game. they didn't have the LE/premium yet, but have the pro, assuming they are the same right?
I asked them and they sent me the GOT differences, not GOTG. tried to clarify and got no response.

The only differences I could find, had nothing to do with the actual playfield layout.

the german company that makes them.

https://www.playfield-protectors.com/
I went ahead and just ordered it, I'd like to get it out before to much time passes. figured I can modify any differences that might come up.

yup the semi just dropped of LE # two-hundred-thirty something a couple hours ago.

one thing I noticed was the playfield is actually smooth unlike game of thrones and ghostbusters. ghostbusters was especially unlevel if you ran your hand along it. good job stern.

the other one other thing was the billboard type display with the led's on it above the scoop was hitting the glass. probably gonna have to heat it up and bend it slightly. not sure if you can see the marks on the glass or not, crappy phone camera.
all in all it looks great though.

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ok, 234#
no, Samsung note 4. the glass is cracked and there is crap all over the lense. Been time to get a new phone for a couple years now, to lazy though.
also much appreciated, happy holidays to you sir.

does anyone know what this is? it was laying inside the cab. looks like a thumb screw, it's flat on the top side where screws are usually + or - and round with ridges. taken with a better camera

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nice, ok that makes sense. I was looking all over the bottom of the playfield thinking why in the hell would they use a thumb screw on any of this.
appreciate it.

does anyone else have sound distortion problems. my volume is really low, but at certain frequencies it gets some static. almost like the speakers can't handle it maybe. Still on .73

just to let you know, I had the bubble in the middle as well and I decided to take a measurement with a few digital inclinometers I use all the time. it was reading 6.23. at 6.5 the bubble is touching the top line. I never rely on those bubble levels that come with games half the time they are off.

I wasn't real sure about the hands, but they don't get in the way. They do cover the left orbit insert but, I guess you would know to shoot for it if nothing else was lit.

guessing there really is no difference currently btwn LE/Premium and Pro magnet usage right now. unless I'm not seeing something.

I've seen the swirl your talking about. haven't played a pro yet, i'd be curious to see the difference btwn the two as far as ball/magnet interaction.
I've had the magnet toss the ball down the left outlane several times, when it gets released from the orb shot.

ok, from the vids. there didn't seem to be much difference at all. Like to know what they come up with, love magnets.

I was able to order a new CPU board from my distro, for the static crackling sound the speakers gave after a turn ended. Chas said, there was another distributor in florida that had the exact same issue. So if you hear crackling distorted noise, replace your cpu board. Because it's not the code.

is there a ball save timer for the orb shot with the new code?
the magnet has a tendency to send the ball straight down the left outlane maybe 1 out of 8 times.

had some people complaining about this aspect of it, I checked the adjustments and didn't see anything for this.

also does anyone else notice that static/crackling noise after your turn ends?
When I first heard it, I posted on here and someone said it might be the cpu board.
called chas he said there was another distro that had the same issue. he sent a new cpu board, I replaced it... yet the static is still there.

I went back and watch the deadflip stream on youtube and their it was.
Guessing it's part of the game, it doesn't sound right though.

nevermind just found another video and it's doesn't have that sound.

so no-one else notices this static/crackling noise? I checked the dead flip stream just to see if I was imagining stuff, and the crackling noise was there.
So I figured it was part of the code, and was supposed to sound like that for some reason. That is till I found another you tube video of a pro and the sound was crystal clear when the static was supposed to be there. it's right after your turn ends, right before the bonuses are added.

already tried replacing the CPU board with a new sim card, next I'm going to try the FF speakers to see if that does anything. (unless I got a crap replacement CPU board, I'm not sure what else it could be). Updated/reloaded the code a few times also.
it's not a big problem, but it still bugs me all the same.

figured there were others out there.
bought some FF speakers a couple days ago, should be in next week hopefully.
I'll let you know if this resolves the issue.
I was going to email chas a video of mine vs. another if this doesn't work. otherwise it's just replacing parts at random, wanted to start getting a backup node board collection going anyway. The spike 2 cpu board is freakin expensive though.

let me know if you figure it out as well.

crap man, yours sounds worse then mine.
If it is software then why are some worse then others? not saying it isn't, that would actually be really great if it was.
yup, I as well was hoping the cpu board was the fix.

It's not a game ender, but still an annoying issue.

hoping they stick with spike 2 for a while, at least a few years.

yup, I played a test game and that happened as well.
thinking of maybe getting those protectors for that plastic to make it more rigid.

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I've only seen it happen twice on mine and it's a route game, it's gotten a lot of play. It does suck when the stuck ball stops game play all together
lasseriffic makes a plastic to strengthen the rocket plastic I'm about to grab. not sure if it's going to solve the issue.

I bought that plastic for the pro before it was listed for pro only. apparently they now make a premium/le version.
https://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=4811

the main area where the ball gets caught a lot more is up in the top right corner. there is a big hole in the plastic (near the gate) the ball rolls right into and sits.
the patron has to tilt the game to get the ball out. Was thinking about adding a post, I hate the idea of drilling into the plastic but....

Seems like they rushed this out, without extensive testing. All my other stern games have post that block those areas.

that sucks, I know mine went down without hitting it.
I thought there was some type of adjustment, but I didn't see anything. Probably different then SAM games.

I found the ledge on the drop had worn down enough to where it wasn't able to catch on the assembly. I replaced the drop and its back at 100%, next time I'll try to find another fix because that's not something I want to be doing every few months. I'd have to look at it again but maybe a lower tensioned spring? (this might help with the inevitable wear on the drop ledge). I also Thought there was something that could be done with the hardware that holds the drop in place.

Assuming GB hasn't had these same issues because you don't hit those drop targets anywhere close to the same amount you do hitting orb. that and the spring tension is probably a little less, they even came out with a spring kit for GB drops because they weren't dropping half the time.

guess it makes sense if a magnet was further away it field wouldn't be as strong. Never dawned on me to look at that as the issue.
I always just assumed the magnetic coil was weaker or something. Will be checking this for all games from here on out. thanks

Damn, wish I had the time to devote get even a 1/6th of that score. GOTG and MET are two games I struggle with for some reason. I can play them for a couple hours feel comfortable... then I come back to em a week later and I'm back to where I was when I started bricking shot after shot.

I'm a lot more consistent with TNA and Iron man.

I wonder if I was to make the magnets a tad bit stronger. Like changing them to something with less resistance. hmmmm….

Haven't put a lot of time on the pro, but I have noticed the magnets are a lot more active on the premium/LE. has anyone noticed a major difference, say in orb multiball?

I came in today and saw guardians out of order. found that groot had all 6 balls in his mouth... Guess the coil didn't have enough power to push them all out?

got the balls out & played a quick game to test. I haven't played it since the latest code update (1.01 or whatever) is he supposed to spit one ball out then the rest? or all at the same time like he used to? if the latter, then I have a problem.

ok, it is messed up. the coil doesn't have enough strength to push them out. tested the coil it tests out at 4.2 ohms, with is in range of the what it's supposed to be 3.9 ohms.

never mind, weird....
looks like there was to much friction on the track & plunger-ball-pusher-thing. took it apart and added a small amount of super lube on the track, used it very sparingly so the balls wouldn't get all greasy. Now groot is spitting out balls like I remember.

anyone else have an issue with this thing by chance?

have you made the bicycle girl plastic by chance?
Mine is cracked all over & finally broke off from the screw holding it when I saw it today,
I've seen aftermarket ones but they are probably not very flexible.

anybody else have stress fractures all over their ramp support tabs?
my game has been on location for maybe 7 months and I have 4 tabs that have completely broken off and the rest have really bad stress fractures.

Was looking at other games with plastic ramps and even though there are a few stress fractures it's nothing like this game. Was thinking maybe it was due to how fast the ball was traveling and the resistance met along the way (with all the curves)?

Think I'm going to start adding a washer & rubber washer underneath the ramp supports for games that have plastic ramps, still crazy since it relatively new. I always expect this when the game is like 5-10 years old but, 7 months is a little fast to be replacing ramps...right?

just a guesstimate, maybe 8-10k depending on replays/matches.
not an insane amount, compared to some locations.

hate plastic ramps
Least I learned something about how to help prevent this in the future.

Normally I don't, just thought it was weird because I don't usually see this type of support wear unless I'm buying an older B/W game. All my other sterns that use plastic ramps with similar plays still look pretty good. Wanted to see if it was isolated to this type of game with curvy high velocity ramps or isolated to me. The rest of the ramp itself still looks fine.

I remembered when I first saw really bad stress fractures on plastic ramps I always assumed someone overtightened the screw coupled with gameplay. Now I know it can be caused by gameplay alone. Was also hoping for a collaborative discussion on another solution, better then my washer/rubber washer idea.

Still learning different little tricks all the time, that help with reliability. The game has made enough to justify new exit ramps, so I'm not to concerned about that. Just don't want to have to replace the ramps again in 7 months, especially if there was something else I could of done to extend their life.

still dislike plastic ramps though.

I'll give it shot, usually when a game is over 6 months it's hit or miss. Stern has always been more then helpful with anything I've had to through at them, especially Chas.

on the new ramps.... might not be a bad idea. I've only ever used that plastic welder stuff for to help with fractures like this, never thought about adding clear to ramps. have you tried it before?

I've used clear really sparingly in the past to fill chipped holes, or chipped clear on drains. didn't always turn out pretty, but it worked.

ahhhh.... clear washers gottcha.
yeah that'd look a lot better then what I got going on.

I'll go ahead and order some from amazon and try em out.

something like this
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-thin-Thickness-Plastic-Washers-Transparent/dp/B075Q8JBR3/ref=sr_1_30

I went ahead and ordered all the other stuff and new exit ramps, gonna try to get as much use out of the old ones as possible.
Just happy stern is releasing games with metal ramps. 10 or 20 years it might be more difficult to find these if you needed spares... if the game is still working that is.
I have a TWD that gets plays quiet a bit, those ramps still look pretty good. I might go ahead a pre-emptively add the extra support though.

on the pre/le you have some groot arms that get in the way and make it hard to clean, three magnet vs. one on the pro.... I'm not sure two of them do much, a couple spinners, RGB lighting, and a rocket figurine that moves half an inch with the kickout. Out of all that the RGB lighting would probably be the deciding factor, does look nice... spinners are always cool too.