Who is this 'we' you're talking about? I don't really care about any of those things.

Ah! I didn't follow the thread back to the 'these should be LE items' - that makes a bit more sense.

To me, all of that stuff should be add ons (powder coat, fancy glass, fancy backglass, shaker, topper) so that the price can be kept down.

It'd be nice if the 'premium' was the same gameplay wise as the 'LE' (if they still insist on doing a stripped down pro, too) but left all those extra bits as optional add ons and the LE had all the dressings as a package price. Bring the price of the 'premium' down a bit and more easily justify the cost difference of the LE.

Not exactly_ the same, form wise, but the same entrance/exits for sure.

From the screenshots of the video, the arrow inserts are color changing -- and there's no groot arms, so that must be a pro? Possibly "more" RGB on the LE, but it seems like at least shot indicators are RGB on the pro too.

It looks like a Borg layout. In general, Borg games are a fun time. I'm not sad.

The Danesi lock is specifically the stacked multiple drops/balls, not a single.

Sounds like the only thing I'd really miss on the pro are the spinners; because spinners are fun at all times.

"I am Groot" "Yeah buddy, I'm pretty sure they know they should shoot the left ramp right now"
"I am Groot" "Shoot the scoop? Are you serious?"

I didn't. But I would in a hot second if they were supported by the code.

Yes, I'm sure whiners on pinside is why this happened. It wasn't planned from the start or anything like that.

Not if they were still working out the licensing deals.

Two songs is 'made right' for a license property that so heavily leverages music? Sure.

But if they laser cut them, they'd have to have re-powder coat them (because the edges are covered) -- so it's not really re-using anything.

Sweet. After it arrives I’ll have to stop in some time when I’m visiting the kid at college and get in a few games on the new deck.

Too bad Stern hasn’t gotten into selling those other ideas as after market upgrades. Clearly people who care will do that stuff (like timebandit’s Integrated add ons).

I love the crazy mish-mash of scale in that picture. Tie figher as big as a destroyer as big as the death star. Good stuff.

I think Stern's problem with the LCDs is they really aren't using them very well. The displays just aren't that well designed. The stuff JJP does with the display is gorgeous. Stern's attempts so far are ... not. I'm no graphic designer, so I can't really speak to what they should do different -- just as an end user, what they've done so far is ... meh. If they were amazing, I think you'd have less of a 'I miss the DMD' feeling.

Everything has to be approved on ANY license game. It just sounded like Disney was much less agreeable than most people they work with, so Star Wars was not a joy to work on.

Yeah - I think they're just MUCH more strict/controlling with Star Wars given what the property means to the bottom line. Probably the only thing that would be worse to work with them on is a Mickey Mouse pin. GotG isn't the megalith that SW is.

Is it? Do average location players even care? I would think the 'strike with what's new and hot' would work better - regardless of finish details. Sure, repeat regular customers might be disappointed by it, but on a route operation how much of that is really where the money is versus "OOOH GUARDIANS (puts money in)"

That. Opposing forces.

Why would they do this? They could just make more premiums. Doesn't make any sense.

The point is, if there's a market for TWD with the spinner/extra magnet/walker bombs -- why not just make more premiums instead of a hybrid 'pro'. Are the ramp flap and crossbow THAT problematic that it would be worth leaving them off?

Congratulations on being wrong with such gusto.