I love the movies, and love the soundtracks, but I think the general tone of the thread is getting a little too obsessed with the music.

So what we’ve realized is we need a john c Reilly pin.

Because $5000-6000 might mean a little more to other people.

I watched Waspinator on stream. He looks younger (but not young) than the average pinball owner, which isn't hard, sorry guys. Actually seeing him helps me understand better. If you dont have the space and cash flow, but are new to ownership, swapping out games makes sense. I was the same way, but the difference for me was I had space and cash flow and ended up buying 10+ machines in a relatively short time. If I had not had the space or cash flow at the time, I would have definitely quickly cycled through many of my games. The younger generations are starting to hoard less and less than older generations and dont have as much attachment to physical objects.

lol, sorry. Meant to imply you aren't a kid.

I normally don't pay much attention to the new game scene. GOTG is the first new game that my wife wouldn't freak out about if I bought it. I'm not team Stern or Team JJP. I'm not Team NIB or Team B/W. I'm just a guy buying his first new game. I'm fortunate to be on pinside, but not fortunate enough to have followed stern's other releases to realize they ship with incomplete code.
Making a $5k purchase, I should have researched more, but I made an impulse purchase. My research was my experience with playing new games at an arcade named Ronnie Rayguns. Some games I liked, some games I didn't. I liked trying them out as soon as they were installed.
I hate ghostbusters. BM66 was incredibly boring. I thought TWD was bad. The list goes on. After reading through these GOTG threads and learning about code, I gave them a try again. Most of them were much more enjoyable. GB still kicked my ass, so i couldnt get into it.

So here's the bottom line. Stern is hurting themselves in the long run by putting games out too early. I've been playing these games during the first couple weeks of release, then deciding they were bad and never playing them again. On top of that I've been telling my friends that I've been trying to get into pinball to avoid those games because they were bad without knowing the gameplay has been updated.
I bought a GOTG. Now I know the code will get updates, so I'm not worried about it, but I feel bad for operators that put these games out that dont get to remake as much revenue because of first impressions.

At the end of the day, if you are blaming the customer, your business will fail. If you are not serving the customer you will fail.

Russian bots on both side of the issue are confusing us and destroying our pinball economy.

I think it’s time for a new pin that doesn’t have mode selection. I’ve always enjoyed games that started modes during gameplay. There’s something rewarding in that. It’s missing from select a mode games. I’m not saying it’s better, but maybe they should mix it up. That’s why all of these pins feel the same to me.

I unboxed mine today and put a few games. I havent ran into any speech, yet, AT ALL. Is there currently no speech at all? Mine is .66 It's kind of unnerving how speechless it is.

I have to buy a flash drive to upgrade mine. I'll do it today and have my wife and daughters play it. I'm not going to say anything to them and see how they react to the voiceovers. They will be as unbiased as you can get. They dont know what pinside is and I won't even mention the voiceovers so I dont subconsciously influence them.

Didn’t they improve the voice acting or call outs on TWD after release? It may not have actors, but didn’t it get better? Or am I misremembering?
I wasn’t a TWD tv show fan, but I remember the original call outs being super abrasive, and feel like I remember them toning the hillbilly down a little bit? I could have entirely made that up in my head though.

I’m not saying the GOTG call outs are terrible, I haven’t seen them first hand yet, but I was just hoping there is a precedence for improvement.

The most messed up thing about this is the rocket voice sounds a hell of a lot like Peter Quill. Enough that it confused me about who was talking.

I’m not a fan of mission picking on this, but I think it’s because making shots during the modes don’t feel very different from mode to mode. If each mode actually felt different I wouldn’t mind it. I think that can be fixed mostly with code and video editing.

I don't think it's lazy code. I think it's a marketing strategy to get players new to the machine to drop more money in the machine to try the other modes.

The reason probably isn't the cost of audio, it's the need of unique call outs. Having two different voices to do call outs and do movie clips would be worse than just doing full voice-overs. Just a guess.

I've never had the magnet on my pro fling a ball at an outlane, and I've only had one stdm.

Mine is set to whatever it came from the factory at. I don’t even think my magnet throws it near the outlanes.