2 motors in that pic.

I heard 5 magnets!! (5 Magnets Levi!!!~!!)

Decks?

Table is lineball unacceptable, but deck...???

I'm ok with plastic ramps, especially on a busy playfield like this - there's already enough obstruction. And they're fast and smooth.

But since GB, the plastic they're using on these has become so thin. Anyone worked on the GBLE subway ramp??? It's like 1mm thick. It's like the plastic they use for food packaging.

As a result, they've had to make these plastic ramps on GOTG in 2 pieces - there's an ugly metal join on both ramps. They'll seem less smooth and more "rattly". But with how thin the plastic is they've had no choice.

Remember how long, smooth and fast those TWD ramps are?? Iron Man?? Single piece ramps. Ah, the good old days.....remember Sam?

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Imagine a tape deck toy that you hit to change songs? Complete certain tasks and you add more songs to the playlist.

Hate to encourage Stern, but would have been great if they licensed a couple of songs for the pro/location, then the rest of soundtrack the owner could download for a fee.

The songs really are integral with this theme. They managed to do it on Mustang. But maybe the Mustang license cost them nothing.

That left one is ridiculous. Cant imagine it will ship like that.

Oughh, that armour.......

Premium in 2 years with Stern aftermarket armour might be the go here. If at all.

Have to admit we're getting hyper picky now. 5 Years ago, if GOTG was released, everyone would have lost it. Le's sold out in 15 minutes. Best game ever, etc etc. Now its like, "too similar", "too colourful", "too busy", "the music is not perfect", "the toys are too big, too small, too many", "the armour is not the perfect shade of....".

Kind of a compliment to the industry though. We are fortunate we can afford to be this picky. Every game has to jump a pretty high bar to get a spot in my limited space. Especially as the ones already in that space are pretty f*n good.

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The soundtrack is cool. The soundtrack is an important part of the movie. The game is based on the movie.

IMO, music draws you in to a theme like no other element can.

100% agree that a Walkman as the centre piece would be lame. But the right scoop, for example, could be the Walkman instead of just being a scoop.

I doubt one person on this forum could recognize the Guardians score if they heard it. There's no emotional attachment. It's not like Star Wars. And is the theme music even good for pinball? No idea, as I can't remember it. lol.

It's not a huge deal, but for me, the missing soundtrack is the difference between a must buy and a maybe buy. Game looks cool, but so do my other games.

No harm in discussing what could have been.

Cant tell if this is a joke? That's one photo of the Premium/LE with hands and one photo of the Pro without hands.

Lets be honest. If Stern had any competition at pro level, there'd be spinners on a pro. They take them out because they know they can get away with it - not because they must remove them to keep the pro pricepoint.

Please order your Limited Edition now!

At least he didn't call it a deck.

Hipster

Ive completed the first GOTG mod. Thoughts?

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Was there anything to say if that was new LE armour, or the aftermarket stuff they plan on selling?

Why isn't OK to give constructive criticism? "Bashing" implies criticism with no basis. Armour looks crap. Lack of songs is a glaring omission. Sure, rest of the game looks great, but for those 2 reasons Im not buying. They address those issues, I probably would.

Stern has sort of responded, we think, but no way they would have done so without the criticism.

I heard they were meant to move but Stern wouldn't pay the extra royalties to Disney.

Not at all. The "joke" was mostly about the crap these companies have to go through with licensors such as Disney. And a little bit about Stern cost cutting. I thought the ridiculousness of it would make it clear it was a joke.

In all honesty, the game looks fantastic. Having owned (and loved) Iron Man and Metallica, my instant thought was the layout is a little too familiar. But if you haven't or don't own those 2, that's not a concern. The art is fantastic, the sculpted toys are great. I personally love the look of Groot and even his (non moving ) hands. Some good ball interaction with the magnets, kickback, Groot ball lock. We'll see how it plays soon. Obviously we have yet to see the animations. The lack of soundtrack music was a big disappointment for me, but the armour is not really a deal breaker (I hated GBLE at first, but it grew on me).

I'm now super picky about all new releases because I've got no more room, and I'm really happy with my current collection. If I had room for a few more games, I would probably already have ordered GOTGLE.

The other thing is I'm a grumpy B66le owner who has waited 12 months for beta code. I'm a bit jaded with Sterns code support at the moment, and have decided I'm waiting until games are finished before I pass judgment on whether or not they're good. Since I've owned games with a similar layout to GOTG, code, sound and animations become more important. If these are nothing special, then why would I buy a game with the same layout as something I've already had?

Not unfairly. The issues are real. But how important they are depends on whether I'm looking to buy. I'll admit I'm looking for reasons not to buy this. Doesn't mean I don't like it, just means my threshold for what makes the game a must have is much higher.

One good side effect of clear inserts is they hide ghosting. Combined with black outlines as we have here, ghosting problems solved.

Just looking at that pic, it doesn't look like there's an up-post to divert the ball into the pops. Maybe a controllable gate?

Isn't that just the "Painters Tape"?

Thought exactly the same. Might just be them covering themselves because they havent actually signed off on the license yet.

Already been done:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/guardians-of-the-galaxy-is-here/page/29#post-4054813

Pm me for pricing. No just kidding.

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Still think the right scoop should have been the Walkman. Shoot it and you can change song etc. Some modes build up the track list from a couple of "pop songs" to the full track list. Anyway. I'm sure the game still rocks and looking forward to playing it.

That's the problem with B66 - most people made up their mind after playing pre-beta code from a few months ago.

Your new "best game ever"?

Looks like fun. I cant see what is really going to differ gameplay wise with the Prem/LE. 3 magnets instead of 1...meh. RGB inserts...meh. Opening orb....meh. It really is looking like a Pro on this. First time I've ever said that.

And the code waiting game starts again. Why bother. All you have is a DECK at the moment. Nothing more.

Yeh....translation from Stern Speak "call-outs aren't yet in the code". Disabled from stream .lol. Is there a new setting in Spike...."Disable Call Outs, Yes/No"

Holy crap. Already. May as well leave it in the box.

Who's the young guy killing it on the stream?

Layout looks like it plays well. Nothing revolutionary, but solid. So there's that.

Was verified as .65

Would explain a lot.

Same situation as B66 which was switched for Aerosmith at the last minute for the Stern Anniversary. As a result B66 was literally a box of lights and AS was all but finished.

Also, the recent Franchi interview sees to indicate GOTG wasn't ready at Expo because they feared another B66 situation. So as recently as mid October, it was barely flipable.

Edit: taz read my mind. lol

Omg. I think everyone needs to take a chill pill.

This is why people get annoyed at the "praise new Stern games at any cost, everything is awesome" mentality of most fanboys. Many of us have no way of playing a new Stern for months after it's released. In Australia we have no way of playing a game if we want an LE. So we're left with either watching a Dead Flip stream, or reading reviews of people who have played it. You can only see so much of a game from a Dead Flip stream, and the commentary is completely biased (and justifiably so).

So the only other way to judge is from reports of people who have actually played it. In this instance fanboy blind praise is useless, even detrimental, and needs to be ignored. But you need to know who is a fanboy, and who isn't. Unless you've been on Pinside for a while, that may not be clear.

In reality, the only true way to decide is to play it in 12 months after release. It's why I've all but given up on LE's - it's just too much of a risk. Contrary to fanboys, not all games will be good after code is done. It's a lottery.

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Going to play a pro for the first time tomorrow. Looking forward to it. Got a feeling I'll love the layout (as I love Borg games) and art (duh), but be underwhelmed by ruleset, mostly because I've already got AS. Call outs aren't a big deal unless you've watched the movie 10 times and know them backwards.

Bottom clear has happened since b66, at least my b66 and AS has it.

I thought that was just a wishlist, not a rumour based on anything.

Though wishlists and rumours are mostly the same anyway.

I'd miss Bicycle Girl ramp more than a spinner, but comic book art......drool. Just give me the whole Premium with comic book and I'd sell my existing Premium to get one.

Surely Stern would have to budget at least 2000 units. Let's say average sell at retail of $6000 = $12m.

That's the same as 600000 * $20 toys.

Can't comment on $20 toy margins vs Stern margins, but the licensing budgets of either shouldn't be too far apart.

I get a page not available message now. Been taken taken down.

Edit: maybe this will work -
http://sternpinball.com/service-bulletins/service-bulletin-191-metal-bracket-protector