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#3702 2 years ago

Anyone who's defending using the word rape is acting like a jerk. That's all there is to it. It's a horribly emotionally charged word for a lot of people, that causes them a lot of discomfort, and even if you aren't triggered by it the context it raises is gross and distasteful.

If you want to die on the hill of looking like a jerk, while being offensive and sh*tty to people, just because it feels good to type a naughty word then so be it. Maybe you don't give a sh*t what I think, or think I'm smug or something, I couldn't care less. But you should stop and ponder if screaming PC POLICE is actually how you want to react, because believe me, lots of people around you think you're a jerk too when you say that word like that.

Quoting the dictionary is like telling MapleSyrup he should keep calling people faggots, because it just means a bundle of sticks man, what's the problem? No one is buying that.

I don't really care that Pinside isn't positive now, because it just reflects pinball, which isn't positive either right now. Sad but true. You can't fix it by asking people to be nice, games are expensive and broken, that sucks.

But we can at least try to focus on what we're frustrated about, and ponder our use of language. Say rip the spinner or something and be less jerky.

Quoted from iceman44:

Secondly, I employ 5 females, awesome co-workers, the best, each of whom wouldn't even waste a second of the day to comment on something as ridiculous as this. It's actually pathetic and offensive.

Don't be an dense. First of all, I call bullsh*t. I don't think any of them would enjoy your rape jokes. But secondly, it doesn't matter, because the "I have women friends" defense is trite and stupid.

#3703 2 years ago

She took that pic of her own free will. She knows what sells. I say more power to her.

#3704 2 years ago

If for no other reason, maybe the fact that it always starts this fight and derails a thread is why not to use “rape” as a positive pinball term.

(but there are totally other reasons)

#3705 2 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Don't be an dense. First of all, I call bullsh*t. I don't think any of them would enjoy your rape jokes. But secondly, it doesn't matter, because the "I have women friends" defense is trite and stupid.

They aren't dense idiots Aurich. You don't have any kids so I get it.

As for my "women co workers", they would think i was the biggest dufus ever for bringing it up in a pinball context.

They already think I'm an idiot for owning pinball machines.

So no need to transfer your outside pinball culture hatred in here. It doesn't fly.

#3706 2 years ago

I don't even know what you guys are fighting about anymore. I was just disappointed with the sound package.....

On a positive note, TWD just got a huge surprise update. Lyman killing it slowly but surely.

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#3707 2 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

You don't have any kids so I get it.

Officially the most random comment in an already off-the-rails thread.

#3708 2 years ago
Quoted from yancy:

Officially the most random comment in an already off-the-rails thread.

Keep up with the discussion, they are bringing "daughters" and "coworkers" into it and I'm responding.

#3709 2 years ago

I personally would never make any rape joke and don’t care to hear any either.
In pinball I recall several times reading people describing raping an easy shot for big points (i.e. pillaging) in a non-joking manner and nobody was up in arms about the words used. Context does matter and the term rape is not limited to human to human abuse.

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#3710 2 years ago

Aurich wasn’t talking about your daughters.

#3711 2 years ago
Quoted from yancy:

Aurich wasn’t talking about your daughters.

Who gives a F. People need to stfu about this topic and MOVE ON. I'm letting it go now unless......

This is pinball for craps sake.

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#3712 2 years ago

this thread has become the worst.

#3713 2 years ago

Ten bucks says you don’t.

#3714 2 years ago
Quoted from waspinat0r:

this thread has become the worst.

Put up another stream to get it back on track!

#3715 2 years ago

If I didn't have to work early tomorrow, I would.

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#3716 2 years ago

#GOTGGOT

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#3718 2 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

I have 3 daughters, raised with great morals and values.
They would each laugh at an attempt to make this an issue in the "pinball context" which has ZERO meaning to them because they could care less about pinball and actually have "common sense".
Secondly, I employ 5 females, awesome co-workers, the best, each of whom wouldn't even waste a second of the day to comment on something as ridiculous as this. It's actually pathetic and offensive.
Thank god i live in the real world with real people. Carry on.

Oh thank goodness. Iceman said we carry on now! Phew. Lol.

#3719 2 years ago
Quoted from kklank:

Oh thank goodness. Iceman said we carry on now! Phew. Lol.

F O

Then again, this whole thread is OT

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#3720 2 years ago

Folks, enough with the off-topic discussion. Any further comments will result in thread ejects.

Let's get back on track with pinball and GOTG, please. It's more fun and why we're all here

#3721 2 years ago

Let’s get this thread back on track with an awesome scene I hope can be put into the game!

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#3722 2 years ago
Quoted from MapleSyrup:

I don't know ANYBODY who is as crazy about pinball as I am...

Hey, you know me!

Quoted from MapleSyrup:

My theory is that it's become a haven for FORUM enthusiasts, not pinball enthusiasts. This is less and less a place where pinheads connect and discuss pinball, and more and more a place where argumentative forum addicts hurl insults at each other for the tiny dopamine hits it provides...

Yep. You’ve got the “usual suspects” who have Type A+++ personalities, who are always right and simply can not see two sides of a discussion. Even someone who raises a valid point is WRONG!! and gets a thumbs down.

Quoted from MapleSyrup:

I'm REALLY looking forward to playing GOTG. The audio sounds TOTALLY FINE to me.

Me too. Looks like a fun game. Can’t wait to play it. The Bobbily Bo Bo is awesome. Danni and I have been cracking up for two days.

Again, you have a bunch of people for whom NOTHING will ever match up to their lofty expectations.

I can just imagine if these guys were “on line” in 1990s. “Addams Family! It’s awful! Where’s the world under glass? What’s that bookcase? It’s blue!! Jezusss!! A blue plastic bookcase!! WTFFFF!!! The real mansion looks NOTHING like that thing on the playfield!! I’m out!!!” Lol

“Attack from mars ... only 5 main shots! WTF!! Only 2 modes! What a paaaaaeeceee of shit!! Wide open playfield!! What the hell! There’s nothing there!! Only one wizard mode? Whaaaattt?? No backglass? No 5 channel stereo sound!! The voice isn’t a real alien! What the hell? Should be a real alien!! This is ratshit!! I’m out!!” Haha

Quoted from MapleSyrup:

Yup, Lonnie is not Lyman. TWD is a personal Fav... But I also REALLY enjoy Aerosmith. Not everything needs to be Citizen Cane.

It seems it has to be around here. This is something I’ve been saying for ages. Not every pin is gonna be AC/DC/MET/TWD. To expect otherwise is foolish.

Quoted from MapleSyrup:

As for the TNA chirping going on here... I don't even know what to say?! That game is the spirit of Pinball. If you don't like it... You DO NOT LIKE PINBALL!

I came to that conclusion some time ago. There are people here who don’t like pinball, in the traditional sense. Pinball is all about playing, socialising. I can’t believe some of the folks here who use the machines as some sort of pseudo toy shop. Play the thing people. Some guy in the BM66 thread said he just bought a LE, what are the “must have” mods? There are none. You don’t need any! Play the f**king game!!

rd

#3723 2 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

F O
Then again, this whole thread is OT

F O? That means Fuc$ Of$ where I'm from.
Is that what you just said?

#3724 2 years ago
Quoted from kklank:

F O? That means Fuc$ Of$ where I'm from.
Is that what you just said?

That means "Finally Over", but then again, the crew keeps it going.

#3725 2 years ago

Anyone with a GOTG able to confirm if the opening scene from the movie is used in the game and if the “guardians bitch” scene is used at all in the game/in the code? It must have those in it, surely? Right?

#3726 2 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

That means "Finally Over", but then again, the crew keeps it going.

Gotcha.

#3727 2 years ago

Cleland is working doing the sound replacement for GOTG just like TWD. Sweet baby Ray!

#3728 2 years ago
Quoted from kklank:

Cleland is working doing the sound replacement for GOTG just like TWD. Sweet baby Ray!

I mean that is a HUGE positive. Who saw that coming?

Cleland is awesome!! I love that guy and of course Lyman.

Let's give GOTG a chance.

#3729 2 years ago
Quoted from kklank:

Cleland is working doing the sound replacement for GOTG just like TWD. Sweet baby Ray!

Is he just replacing the call outs?

#3730 2 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

I mean that is a HUGE positive. Who saw that coming?
Cleland is awesome!! I love that guy and of course Lyman.
Let's give GOTG a chance.

Yeah, that's great news.

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#3731 2 years ago
Quoted from Trekkie1978:

Is he just replacing the call outs?

I just got my game yesterday and I am trying to evaluate everything. But, yes I will be replacing sound-a-like callouts with the real ones from the movie as much as I can without background mixes I can't filter out. Also, music is a big deal to me for this glory title, so I will be putting in some of those titles too....and yes, I will truncate "Uga Chuka" out of Can't stop this feeling.....love that song but hate the beginning.

#3732 2 years ago

Stern is doing it again

We’re turning on each other

Don’t let them divide & conquer us

We must unite for non shitty call outs!

Red Dawn! Wolverines!

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#3733 2 years ago
Quoted from cleland:

I just got my game yesterday and I am trying to evaluate everything. But, yes I will be replacing sound-a-like callouts with the real ones from the movie as much as I can without background mixes I can't filter out. Also, music is a big deal to me for this glory title, so I will be putting in some of those titles too....and yes, I will truncate "Uga Chuka" out of Can't stop this feeling.....love that song but hate the beginning.

Seems like the music already in the game is pretty good. I’m basing this strictly on the Jack Danger stream.

#3734 2 years ago

Music is important, been playing sharkey's shootout. Not sure if it's the weird jazz tunes or what, but it's hard to get focused/pumped when playing it.
As long as the music is better then that, It'll pass in my book.

still an ok title, I'm not a big pool player anymore though.

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#3735 2 years ago
Quoted from Trekkie1978:

Seems like the music already in the game is pretty good. I’m basing this strictly on the Jack Danger stream.

The music is pretty good. But we can make it better with some well placed selections like 10cc “I’m not in love” for grand champion or something like that. Huge first song for Quill and his mother’s passing. Lots more to implement too.

#3736 2 years ago
Quoted from cleland:

The music is pretty good. But we can make it better.

You sir have made stern a ton of money. The only reason I own a TWD is because of you. I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels this way. Hoping you can do what stern could not for GOTG. A huge thank you for all of your hard work.

#3737 2 years ago

When premiums ship ?

#3738 2 years ago
Quoted from rvdv:

When premiums ship ?

est... January

#3739 2 years ago

Can’t wait until the Premiums start getting into people’s homes and we start hearing some feedback. The Pro model is no slouch but I kinda want the Premium because I love the theme and would like to have the extra goodies, even if the value doesn’t quite add up. If the Groot hands block the view in the way at all though I would go with the Pro I think.

#3740 2 years ago

The code will get there. It's just unintentionally hilarious right now. I'd save the anger for another day. If it becomes nothing more than an Aerosmith retread on the code front, at least it will have the superior shot geometry of Metallica. The game will be fine, but the rollout has been nothing short of goofy so far.

Maybe Stern needs to cut one game from the schedule each year and let games release with more maturity. But whatever the situation is today with GOTG, it should round out to be a fine game in the long run. I hope so, at least.

#3741 2 years ago
Quoted from jar155:

The code will get there. It's just unintentionally hilarious right now. I'd save the anger for another day. If it becomes nothing more than an Aerosmith retread on the code front, at least it will have the superior shot geometry of Metallica. The game will be fine, but the rollout has been nothing short of goofy so far.
Maybe Stern needs to cut one game from the schedule each year and let games release with more maturity. But whatever the situation is today with GOTG, it should round out to be a fine game in the long run. I hope so, at least.

How does the code differ from AS? I haven’t played the game yet but it kinda seems like you pick a mode and shoot for the lighted inserts. Once you clear that you pick another mode and shoot all of those inserts etc. seems to me like it’s just more of the same compared to AS which isn’t a terrible thing, just nothing new or fancy. Am I wrong about that?

#3742 2 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

How does the code differ from AS? I haven’t played the game yet but it kinda seems like you pick a mode and shoot for the lighted inserts. Once you clear that you pick another mode and shoot all of those inserts etc. seems to me like it’s just more of the same compared to AS which isn’t a terrible thing, just nothing new or fancy. Am I wrong about that?

No, as it stands, pretty much everything is modeled after Aerosmith.

Songs = Missions
VIP = Hadron
Multiballs and Multipliers are very similar
Wizard mode qualifications are very similar

It's not a bad thing, it's just what it is right now. Many Lawlor games had a pretty similar model. Heck, Dialed In's progression is very similar to old Lawlor games, but there is quite a bit more nuance layered in.

#3743 2 years ago
Quoted from MapleSyrup:

Increasingly, Pinside has become overrun with negativity. It's really too bad.
I love Pinball. I'm a Player, collector, Show attendee etc etc. I've been collecting pins since the late 90s, playing since the mid 80s. Outside of a TINY cadre of local pinheads, I don't know ANYBODY who is as crazy about pinball as I am... So, why is it such an unpleasant experience to visit Pinside??!
My theory is that it's become a haven for FORUM enthusiasts, not pinball enthusiasts. This is less and less a place where pinheads connect and discuss pinball, and more and more a place where argumentative forum addicts hurl insults at each other for the tiny dopamine hits it provides... Yuck.
I'm REALLY looking forward to playing GOTG. It's a new Pinball machine based on a license I really enjoy. Remember that time when early code got better?? Ya, me too. I watched the stream with the latest code, and expected dyslexic ESL students screaming nonsense... The audio sounds TOTALLY FINE to me. I don't get it. Over the coming weeks and months it will get refined, and it will improve.
Yup, Lonnie is not Lyman. TWD is a personal Fav... But I also REALLY enjoy Aerosmith. Not everything needs to be Citizen Cane.
As for the TNA chirping going on here... I don't even know what to say?! That game is the spirit of Pinball. If you don't like it... You DO NOT LIKE PINBALL! Some will call that a ridiculously subjective, and hyperbolic statement... It's not. It's a reality check. If you don't like TNA, it's because you care more about "Toys", "Value" (Whatever the F$#K That' supposed to mean), insert some arbitrary metric that has zero to do with PLAYING Pinball. That game is a BLAST. It was made by a dedicated community member, FOR people who LOVE playing pinball. Zero artifice. Pure Pinball Fun!!
Also... "Rape" means "Rape". It's not a synonym with a different meaning. It's a really terrible word to use to describe a pinball strategy. If we are to be a community at all, then this kind of nonsense just can't be tolerated. Don't argue this point to uphold your Forum Bravado... It just sucks. This is a time to say, "Ya, my bad. I'll retire that word. Thanks for the input", not "F$%K you, you oversensitive snowflake".
Well, There you go. I'm adding to the noise.
I look forward to playing a GOTG soon. Borg is my absolute fav designer, and I think Lonnie did a great Job with Aerosmith. Some early feedback from people who have ACTUALLY played the pin is that it's really fun. I've said it before... Isn't "FUN" what this is supposed to be about??!!
Peace, Out!

I don’t agree, specially about TNA. You seems to be as narrow minded as those you report.
We need all people to make a world. This forum (like any other) is just a reflection of the society. Some folks can be unfair in their comments but most of us here can talk easily and fairly of our passion for pins. As all passionate discussion, sometimes words get beyond our mind. But we can talk about our hobby, help each other.
Now Let’s be specific. It is about Stern negativity. Unless my mistake, stern is the only manufacturer who is talking about pinside like a disease. Some are using criticism to be better and closer to customers expectations others prefer to insult those who express it
I won’t come back in length on Stern strategy building ( in my opinion, stern is ruining great theme licenses with rehashed game conception, poor quality, less and less code, zero creativity..) but everyone here get the key, just pass if you don't like.

#3744 2 years ago

This thread needs more aboboli-boboli!!

#3746 2 years ago
Quoted from colonel_caverne:

I don’t agree, specially about TNA. You seems to be as narrow minded as those you report.
We need all people to make a world. This forum (like any other) is just a reflection of the society. Some folks can be unfair in their comments but most of us here can talk easily and fairly of our passion for pins. As all passionate discussion, sometimes words get beyond our mind. But we can talk about our hobby, help each other.
Now Let’s be specific. It is about Stern negativity. Unless my mistake, stern is the only manufacturer who is talking about pinside like a disease. Some are using criticism to be better and closer to customers expectations others prefer to insult those who express it
I won’t come back in length on Stern strategy building ( in my opinion, stern is ruining great theme licenses with rehashed game conception, poor quality, less and less code, zero creativity..) but everyone here get the key, just pass.

There are plenty of us that like Stern and their product. Come and tell my wife that her SWLE is this, that, shit. Whaa whaaa whaaa is all I hear. I am going to do some happy flipping on one of our Sterns.

Let's get back to GOTG!

#3747 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballaddicted:

There are plenty of us that like Stern and their product. Come and tell my wife that her SWLE is this, that, shit. Whaa whaaa whaaa is all I hear. I am going to do some happy flipping on one of our Sterns.
Let's get back to GOTG!

i was just expressing my opinion. and i don't prevent folks to love their SW or GOTG. it is fine for you, it is for me. you bought it, i passed it.
it is forum where you and i can talk about that and it does not prevent me to love my twd and met.

but saying that those who don't like TNA don't like pinball is shit.

#3748 2 years ago
Quoted from jar155:

No, as it stands, pretty much everything is modeled after Aerosmith.
Songs = Missions
VIP = Hadron
Multiballs and Multipliers are very similar
Wizard mode qualifications are very similar
It's not a bad thing, it's just what it is right now. Many Lawlor games had a pretty similar model. Heck, Dialed In's progression is very similar to old Lawlor games, but there is quite a bit more nuance layered in.

If it’s like AS I think I’ll like it. I know it’s very basic type of coding but the playfield layout looks sweet and like it would have a lot of fun shots. I don’t think there will be any big changes in the code if it is already pretty good truthfully. I definitely don’t expect AS to change any other than a few bug fixes probably. I don’t mind that though because Aerosmith is a fun shooting game. If GOTG is as good as Aerosmith I’m in.

#3749 2 years ago
Quoted from colonel_caverne:

i was just expressing my opinion. and i don't prevent folks to love their SW or GOTG. it is fine for you, it is for me. you bought it, i passed it.
it is forum where you and i can talk about that and it does not prevent me to love my twd and met.
but saying that those who don't like TNA don't like pinball is shit.

All good. We like all pinball and his point is to concentrate on what you like and keep the bad comments about what you do not like to yourself. There are plenty of good people on Pinside and the negative rumours are starting to drive good people away from Pinside, including us. We have just put the new code in TWD so we are going to have a flip!

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#3750 2 years ago

Sorry to go off topic here, I have not been following this thread, but it was brought my attention this morning by some friends, who asked me to look into it.

Using the word "rape" in conjunction with pinball is not something we should want to uphold, as a community. There are plenty of less provocative words to make your point. Everyone may have different opinions about the meaning and/or severity of the term - and that's their own prerogative - but if you look at the Pinside community rules I think it's pretty obvious what Pinside's stance on this is.

So, just to be clear: using the term "rape" as any kind of metaphor for anything pinball (or not pinball) related is not allowed on Pinside. Period.

Please no further comments about this in this thread (back on topic!). If you agree or disagree, feel free to up- or downvote this post. If you want to respond, send me a PM or open a Moderator Feedback thread. Oh, and PLEASE be respectful of each other when you post on Pinside. Keep it friendly and remember we are all here because we love pinball. We've been through this many times before and I'm frankly quite sick seeing some of the posting habits of some people in here. If you cannot be nice (which is our #1 rule) you're better off elsewhere on the internet.

Thanks.

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