Gary does not agree. He believes a licensed title will always do better and that it's absolutely necessary to get the first wave of games ordered. And it's obviously working. People just assume if they license a property they must have more than the art. It's going to take people getting burned on quite a few titles before we see buying habits change. And I wonder if it will impact the ops that have got to have the newest games first enough to make a difference.

There is def some slimshady going on as usual.

"There will be no TWD premiums on this pin, so send in your LE $$$".

The stream was awful, as usual though its lets bag as many LE sales as possible before the cats out of the bag.

Still, this will end up being a really good pin.

Very doubtful. Sales are soft and LE orders will most likely be canceled. I'm not sure how much they will pump into this. A vault is next and then Deadpool. I cannot imagine Deadpool based on the movie without Ryan Reynolds. Why even consider making that? At least it's Fox and maybe it's Disney and not Marvel. JJP pirates cannot use voices or shots of actors.

I'm beyond disappointed with GOTG.

Oh wow, these may be the worst callouts I've ever heard in a modern pin. In a DMD game it's slightly more tolerable as you are not seeing actual video footage from the films. With an LCD game though custom callouts seem even more out of place when you see video on the screen of the actual actors but then don't hear their voices.

Without the original actors voices I don't know what this game is. The actors and their portrayals of the characters are what make the Guardian films.

Haven't watched yet, but it would have to be almost unimaginably bad to top XMEN for worst voice cast in pinball.

The callouts in XMEN are far better in my opinion and they are not that great to begin with. I know the XMEN callouts are not considered good but I give them a pass as the game is not based on the films but rather the comic. GOTG though...just wow.

Go to 46:40, lol.

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I get why you are distraught after buying this pin. You knew better Hank but it will be ok at the end of the day. Sell it and move on.

Deadpool is gonna suck too and so is another VE.

Yes, LE orders will be abysmal on GOTG but for the simple fact that its way overpriced for what you get and 600 isn't "limited".

If JJP Potc plays great, like it looks then i could care less about "voice".

A Babalee Bo a Babalee bobo

Deadpool without movie clips and voices and I'm out again. Tron VE will do good, otherwise there's not a ton left to VE.

LOTR is standing right there!

You will be too busy with BM66 anyhow JG

The pin whisperer RH has always said that Tron would never be made like the LE with lit ramps etc.

Of course he's wrong as usual.

You can buy those in the low 5's. Stern will want $7300 for a VE. If others want it I say make a pile of them. I'm out for that price though.

Bought my LOTRLE for $5200, sold it for $6300, will never own another one.

CGC interests me MUCH more. The Stern VE pins don't have enough age on them.

TWD VE with comic art? Sounds pretty good!

Even they better hire a pin designer pretty soon. They will run out of viable remakes quickly after about 3 more.

Yeah that would be great. IF they could only redo it with an LCD I'd buy another one right now!

Update it with Negan etc. Yep, no brainer for me

Where is Elwin? I thought he was the next guy.

Negan with stern hillbilly voice? Goats for dinner Lucille.

Wouldn't surprise me if that story is true. Steve said at a show earlier this year while talking about Star Wars "Gary hates anything that costs money" then said he was joking...I don't think he was, lol.

They probably are busy forcing him to remove things from the Archer layout to make it fit the build of materials so they can call it Deadpool. All joking aside I am looking forward to seeing what he does. I think they need to give Borg and SR a break and more development time in 2018. Let Elwin, Nordman, and Mark Ritchie have the 2018 releases. It should be exciting.

No substitute for Negan voice! Several P browser guys that would fix that.

I would drop $$$ for a second TWD with comic art and LCD. Even if LCD was AS comic animation.

I have zero interest in any other Stern VE.

I watched some the stream.

The oooga shocka & boblayboo & weak voicework make for possibly the worst sound package in Stern history IMO.

The only way it could get worse is if the next game has voicework done by Fran Dreshner & Gilbert Godfrey (Edit: Gottfried)

Is Mark Ritchie working at Stern? That would be exciting!

x100. Mark Ritchie had a Pulp Fiction layout ready to go until they ran into "licensing issues".

New blood and ideas are a good thing.

CGC will be where most of our pin dollars will go over the next few years. We are really looking forward adding a few of them to our collection.

Was rumored to be working on Pulp Fiction for a long time but apparently there was a license issue. From what was rumored he has a layout ready though so stern needs to find him something to apply it too.

And that's not a knock on Borg or SR. Both have carried stern for years now and have to be feeling the burnout a little. Time to reflect back and come back fresh is always a good thing.

Me too. My AFMRLE box just got delivered today.

Not saying that Indy500 will be remade but that pin is really really good. So many great oldies to redo for CGC for many years to come.

I can't stop laughing at bobalee bo bo. Not because it's funny, but because the situation is hilarious. They'll definitely remove it in the future, but let's just laugh at the ridiculousness right now.

Bobalee bo bobalee bo bo.

Congratulations! We cannot wait to get ours, looks like after Christmas now. Wait until you unbox that AFMrLE. That Churchill cabinet and playfield is the best from any manufacturer by far. Benchmark stuff!

Have fun!

My wife wanted me to order up one of these sight-unseen when she first saw that it was coming out. I am SO glad that I didn't. Ouch.

The Stern Star Trek code was pretty shaky to start out, but at least it matured pretty well and the rest was fixed with Pinball Browser. I guess we can hope the same will happen with this one, but I'll be waiting until that happens before plunking down $7k+ of hard-earned money on it. Right now it looks more like a recipe of how to kill a great idea. They'd have been better served putting in an extra few months of development before releasing it.

(Goes back to playing AFMrSE)

Noooooo.....well, I have no space for new pins, so this will give me time to think....and now Guardians is off the want list for the time being.

It sounds cool until you find out that Stern hired the voice actor from GOTG to do the playfield art. Lol.... No way they'd spring for Charlie Adlard or Tony Moore for a game that's on it's way out. Plus they'd have to re-work all the licensing since AMC doesn't own the comic book rights. I'm sure they learned their lesson with ACDC Luci which sold under 200 units. It would be awesome to see but let's be realistic here. I think the most likely VE after Tron is Metallica Ride the Lightning VE. At least they have a working relationship with Dirty Donny.

Myself and others have allready owned most 90s b/w popular pins so i really want new ideas and tech like jjp is doing. Especially bc in most cases i can get restored modded originals for cheaper than the remakes are now. If im gonna spend 8-10k i want new design and crazy lighting and toys/tech. Word has it cgc is designing new pins .....

It reminds me of the horse winnies that they removed from Mustang. Just ridiculous!

Give it a few months and a pinbrowser package and I'm sure it will be fine.

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I initially offered to trade my X-men Wolverine for GOTG and Im glad Im not going through that.. holy hell... Im sorry but heads should roll after that update... its such a shame, a cool layout and great colors/art just plain wasted. :/

The Bobbalee Bobo is a rare fish that dates back to prehistoric times. It is often trying to mimic the appearance of other fishes around it but typically fails in its attempt.

You mean Gilbert Gottfried. Are there rumors of an Aflac themed pin?

You ever watch Trailer Park Boys?

Ricky constantly mispronounces words or uses phrases in the wrong context.

I feel like a Ricky right now lol.

Here’s some Rickyisms I found online

Breakfast at bed (Breakfast in bed)
Bottle of joy (Bundle of Joy)
Child Report (Child Support)
Carbonator (Carburetor)
Escape Goat (Scapegoat)

Man... Stern should make a TPB pinball. The call outs could be hilarious.

A BOBBILY BOBO, A BOBBILY BO

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My personal favorite that I use all the time is “getting two birds stoned at once”.

Ironically two stoned birds would make for better call outs right now.

alright, whelp, guess i'll be placing an order with JJP this week.

Whoever thought Momjeans McCellphone would be cooler than Guardians of the Galaxy!?!? That's where we are in pinball 2017.

I'm hungry for more code!

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My pinball butthole hasn’t hurt this much since Star Wars

My condolences to whoever has this game in their home right now. I know it will get better but yikes, it just seems so disjointed.

Not likely. They've never re-recorded horrible voices. Transformers, Avengers, X-Men, Walking Dead. It's a done deal. The rules are clearly the Kiss/Aero style rules. They are what they are.

Put a fork in it. GOTG is DONE.

Bobo.