I see Pod Chase on the PF - and that is in the second movie right? So both movie assets will be used. Right!?

This GOTG unpopulated PF has more on it than a fully assembled Star Wars.

I do agree with you 100% that all of that should be included.
They used to understand that.
We want shakers
We want real backglass
We want anti glare glass
We want powder coated rails.
We want extra working toys.

I personally could care less about signatures and numbered plaques.

Maybe his watch, definitely not his left hand.

Lol yes smart ass... but i believe it goes to a drop bank like on sm?

Shouldn't you be saving for retirement instead of buying pins ya ol fart

"who's on code" ?

easy, with these big X multiplicators on main shoots, its Lonnie
and here's a secret : while in multiball, if you get a mystery, it will be... ADD-A-BALL !!!

Come and get your love....come and get your loooove....come and get your love come and get your love come and get your love now....

Sorry, I misread drop target with drop bank; wasn't trying to be a smart ass

Maybe so!

I hope so! I rely on timing that shot for an ADD-A-BALL in MB. Frankly, I miss it on games that don't have a mechanic to continue a MB after a hard fought battle to get to there.

Who is this 'we' you're talking about? I don't really care about any of those things.

Agreed, I don't want any of those things, they don't matter to me.

2 motors in that pic.

I heard 5 magnets!! (5 Magnets Levi!!!~!!)

So they are copying dialed in as well as TnA!? Geez stern!

Its also going to be the same pricing as star wars.

Agreed. I like shakers on certain games, but to be added at my own discretion. Real backglasses just meant they're that much harder to replace if I make an "oops" when servicing and quite frankly, I don't want to have to pay for anti-glare glass or special powder coat. I'd much rather see that money go into better game features, stronger cabinets, etc.

After reading these comics growing up and now seeing movies, I'm really pulling for this to be a home run. I want nothing more than to put an LE in my collection. Hope the full reveal is awesome.

Well the good news is I'm a decade younger than I realized!

Nah. When I pay this much for something I want it done right. Sound package isn't just about tracks. It's about voice clips, custom voices, effects, mixing, choreography. I'm not doing their job for them when I buy something this expensive.

I have yet to hear a 'custom' package that sounds as good as the original. Cue points don't match up, things don't loop perfectly, ducking and volumes aren't right, etc. Doing pinball sound properly is an art, replacing stuff after the fact often doesn't work. For me at least it's not a solution to anything.

Long pointy edges on those PCBs really don't look either very good or durable. Poor design IMO.

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What a tough ass group.
All I am saying is Stern used to add value to their LE’s with actual upgrades.
If you want to pay thousands more for new artwork and signatures I’m not stopping you.

The LE has no compelling argument anymore. The price hike is not even remotely justified.

WH20 reorchestration.

If they make it like TRON LE it will.....

Thank you.
And as to the want none of that BS.
I can’t believe for a second someone does not want more working toys and features on their LE.
And if shakers and real backglass bothers you just sell them and get a translite and stationary game

That doesn't make sense. There will be a GOTG Premium. Tron had no Premium, hence the great demand after the fact.

Also Tron LE was less than $5500 shipped when new. Just sayin.

Shit....I hope both flippers make it to the pro. Soon, you'll have to order the premium/LE just to get the cabinet.

Ah! I didn't follow the thread back to the 'these should be LE items' - that makes a bit more sense.

To me, all of that stuff should be add ons (powder coat, fancy glass, fancy backglass, shaker, topper) so that the price can be kept down.

It'd be nice if the 'premium' was the same gameplay wise as the 'LE' (if they still insist on doing a stripped down pro, too) but left all those extra bits as optional add ons and the LE had all the dressings as a package price. Bring the price of the 'premium' down a bit and more easily justify the cost difference of the LE.

Shakers- No. There are maybe 5 games on the planet where a shaker should even be used. Every damn game shouldn't have a shaker, only if the theme warrants it.

Real backglass- no thanks. Ever had one burst in your hands? Screw that.

Anti glare glass- no thanks. This shit sucks. People in my house can't even tell what game even has it on. not one person.

Powder coated rails- Again...who cares.

what we really want ....is to have them shove this stuff up their ass, and bring back reasonable prices that reflect the disposable aspects the games are becoming. Get rid of this multi tier game system and stick with one model. If people want to add shit to it later. let them do it.

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This point ... I don't know what to say.

Though I've no desire to see it as a standard feature (would rather buy after market), the contention that it is not noticeable and the average person can't tell the difference is completely untrue.

I haven't seen the Stern product, or the cheapo low quality stuff, but JJP is immediately noticeable and a major improvement. Roman's / PDI / other similarly good stuff, people often forget it's there and smack their hand into the glass. Never heard of someone who isn't partially sighted do that with standard glass.

bullshit. I could have you stand in my gameroom and tell you to tell me which one, and I guarantee you will fail the test.

I tend to agree with you, but the movie soundtrack for Star Trek is great. There's a few times where it's a little wonky, but I really like the original score.

Marc

LOL. They look nothing even remotely alike. Also, if you don't constantly clean them, the combination of dust and reflections / glare rapidly makes it a lot worse.

i'm telling you. 100% of the people have failed this test. invisiglass is not as awesome as you fan boys think it is.

Let’s all write to Stern and tell them to please give us less for our money.
Oh wait we don’t have to.

I can’t believe I’m even having this conversation.

Let’s get back to GotG talk.

Lighting will determine everything. On my WoZ and DI, it's crystal clear and I sometimes get that "oh, the glass IS on..." effect. But at TPF, they had a Ghostbusters with the HD glass and it looked the same as any other game in the area. That said, when my glass is freshly cleaned on both sides, even the standard glass looks very clear. I just don't have many lights that would cause reflections to begin with.

I have space/money.

My wife & daughter like GOTG.

I'd like to buy one but then I ask myself... how long will code take?

3 years?

5 years?

Then I get sad (about Stern's track record)... and think instead I should get TNA, AFM or (gasp) JJP Pirates.

JJP Invisiglass is significantly less good than Roman's / PDI or a top of the line 'museum glass' type product. However, I'm sorry, but your eyesight is really quite poor if you can't tell the difference between it and standard glass.

But then I've had people telling me that it's impossible to tell the difference between standard glass (or even the cheapest hazed acrylic) and museum glass / acrylic equivalent for framing art, and who claim their vision is 20:20. Again, impossibly untrue.

Now you want code? WTF, This is the new corporate Stern. Code is Extra.

Me too.

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I own one sheet of Stern HD glass, and I had it on my restored TAF. In comes Star Wars and it's under a skylight and I could not play the thing; the reflections were so bad during the day. HD glass went on and the game is perfect now. Can't tell my ass The before and after is the clearest thing in the world; big white rectangular light reflection vs barely anything.

Yeah, I am waiting for KISS and AS updates before thinking about buying another game unfinished.

Am liking what I see so far though.

This whole invisiglass debate is so annoying, if the lighting of your game room and pins doesn't create a lot of glare it's going to be useless. It you situation results in a lot of glare then it's going to make a big difference. My personal situation my pins are in the basement and I have zero glare. I do have to get them down those frickin stairs.

yes, in certain conditions it can be a drastic change. In a room where you have a ceiling fan in the middle of the room that doesn't throw any direct light on any game, you wont' see much of a difference if any. And it does hardly anything for DMD/backglass glare.