Operators and collectors do not have the same expectations.
I agree with you, stern bases its success on the theme / license and not on quality, creativity, innovation (or only to built at lower cost) that collectors are highly requiring.
Now it is clear that JJP has another vision of pinball that fits much better to collectors expectations.
I hope GOTG will be built right coz I love this licence but when I look at SW pin I have a doubt.

Looking at SW is ur first mistake, play SW and u will be very happy.

You might be right, but I have faith I'm going to be glad I held onto money I had earmarked for SW.

In Borg I trust...especially when he hasn't been rushed to turn something around more quickly than he'd like.

Totally. Borg and Nordman are the best designers currently IMO.

GOTG will be a perfect pinball theme just like the last one, as it will probably give me no reason to want to own one.

Keep up the good work guys!

And are a couple of the nicest, most down-to-earth guys around!

Agree, The music sets the tone for the movies and will as well for the games. But even if Stern were not to get the exact songs we might want we can always change them up... I have several friends that have changed up their Metallica's. I personally stil like all the songs on there so I have made any changes but nice to know you can....

So you hate old and new themes....

Nah, just lame ones for pinball machines. And if it gets it's own hype thread on pinside that goes five pages, it is almost a given it will turn out lame.

I think it has to go more than that....haha remember BG had like 1000 pages! What a shit show that was. You'd think after that people would learn not to just go balls deep on a theme but you know what we're dealing with here.

Odin I got a new PF to swap on my King & Queens in the next month...looking forward to that

Corrected- I meant to say at least five pages, and just give this one a little time.

Still a little too nerdy for me. And where I come from , nerdy = lame.

And I'll be glad to drop a couple quarters into one anywhere I see it before I pass final judgement.

But this getting all hyped up just because it's a good movie, doesn't always end well once it becomes a pinball theme.

Hey! Something we agree on! Nerds unite!!

1 page can be accounted for all of who-dey's posts. The hype for this title is lukewarm at best. It will blow up either way once they show pictures

This is a point that should not need defending, but you know what they say about opinions... Without doubt this is a really good choice by Stern, whether you are a fan of the movies or not. Personally I love the movies, so it's even better for me. Hopefully they pull off a great game. I agree that Borg and Nordman might be the best designers out there right now. I hope he takes a chance and goes to a very different layout this time around.

I think the licence works well on both fronts, between the two movies there are plenty of very specific Guardians moments but also a lot of space opera moments, James Gunn has been great at balancing that although GOTG2 struggled with that balancing act more than the first.

As for Thano's I hope they keep him out of this pin, there are plenty of characters to use from the first two films that the Guardians have ran into Ronan, Ego, Ravagers, The Sovereigns, Nebula, Kree (from the opening of the first GOTG) and Nova Corps.

Stern need to save Thano's for the Avengers Infinity War pin they inevitably do based on the next 2 Avenger movies and if they do another Avengers pin they need to hit it out of the park this time round!

I can hardly wait...

download (resized).jpg

It is, u are aware that pinball itself is considered "nerdy" I've seen pictures from the various Expo's we aren't talking about the cool kids from high school here. Haven't you noticed the themes tend to be "nerdy" comic books, super heros, Tron and Lord of the Rings, geeks man, its mostly geeks. no offense by the way

Again, not where I come from.

morgue11_games_lincecum_close (resized).jpg

The guys I played pinball with when I was a young lad were all longhairs and far from being geeks, we were helliards but so far in my pinball experience its mostly nerds, this might be why ur hating most of the themes, I know I do.

It's all fucking families now.

I hope it's Guardians, and I hope it's Borg, because I'd like to see what he'd do given time and a non-music theme.

And I just caught up with the latest issues of the GotG comic book earlier today to further fuel my excitement.

With whipped daddies that no longer have any hair.

I tell ya the biggest shame today, a guy starts to lose his hair and immediately goes for the razer to give himself the Bruce Willis special, I've missed out on the horseshoe, the comb-over so many great looks from the past, men have become way to vain, anyway back to GOTG.

That's because they are running out of nerdy themes from the 20th century to do.

Have you seen the movies?

I watched the trailers. As soon as it hits FX channel I'll get high as a kite and see if it amuses me.

I'm with ya but man its tough to take you serious when ur avatar is "The Monopoly Guy"

It's a fun popcorn muncher. #1 is far from great but entertain(t)ing. Def worth an FX'er

Money Bags knows the real goddamn rules to monopoly that's for sure. Could teach people a lesson or 2... not buying properties when you land on them? Um no, read the rules hippee!

You will like the first one, I'm not a big Marvel movie fan but GOTG 1 is really good, music helps and that Pratt guy brings some humor to the mix, not nerd humor either, Revenge of the Nerds, now there's a film.

That's Uncle Pennybags to you.

I'm having a good time, well the narcotics help.

10000%. And we just lost Bernie Casey too

So you haven't seen the movies, but you, the person always screaming for modern themes has already decided it sucks?

Man you are missing out. They are not like the other super hero movies and are really well done. The first one in particular is great. Light hearted with great action, great comedy, and just enough drama to draw you in.

Listen, it's just like any other movie hype to me. And now I really don't care what pinball decides will be it's next themes. I'll play whatever comes around.

But I'm not going to be one of those that says-

"Oh please, please make this!" or " I sure hope this gets done!", because that would be ... nerdy.

They could announce Death Race 2000, and you still wouldn't see me say "Oh it's a miracle!, I never thought I'd see the day! Oh please please tell me it's not just a rumor! I'll just die if it isn't true!"

please go visit bm66 thread and before that kiss thread. this will be more of the same.

I think it's a bit meh. Recent games have been okay and issues are all around. It will be cool to see a 3 flipper game and the groot toy. I hate the LE Premium Pro cap with the differences in game play.

3 ramps, 3 flippers, why can't we have 4!? It's been a long time since Stern did a 4 ramp/4 flipper game, would make a welcome change and feel a little more fresh than the last couple releases.

In rocket's voice " of course stern will fucked up"

Good one! lol.

But you really should have dug a little deeper into some of my other non-nerdy dream themes. But yeah, after all this wasted effort, and all the lame themes they chose instead, I gave up and threw in the towel.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/hendrix-pinball-machine

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bassmasters-pinball-theme

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/off-road-pinball-machine

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/which-pothead-movie-would-make-another-great-pinball-theme

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/hawaii-five-o-pinball-machine

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/dead-kennedys-pinball-machine

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/would-you-buy-an-apocalypse-now-pinball-machine

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/310-to-yuma-pinball-machine-how-soon

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/point-break-pinball-machine

I think we should call this thread "O-din and Who-Dey Discuss GOTG"