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Guardians of the Galaxy Drop Target Problem


By Kholmes

1 year ago



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#51 8 months ago
Quoted from mannymasy:

is not that ... all that is already corrected. I mean that just at the moment when the ball goes through the magnet, the orb target gets up and having strength when climbing the ball hits a small boat, just so that the magnet does not grip it

Trying to understand the translation issue, what do you mean by "a small boat"? In English a boat is a small ship, a vessel that travels on water, if you can clarify what you mean perhaps we can help you with the issue. If there is a small boat on your playfield you have a very big problem.

#52 8 months ago

if the orb board rises after releasing the ball, it rises with force and causes the ball to jump a little, this makes the magnet does not hold it

#53 8 months ago

Sorry for my English.

#54 8 months ago
Quoted from mannymasy:

if the orb board rises after releasing the ball, it rises with force and causes the ball to jump a little, this makes the magnet does not hold it

Got it. I can't say I've ever seen that happen on mine, it has always caught or at least slowed the ball down nicely. What pitch do you have the game setup too, how high are the back leg levelers extended?

#55 8 months ago
Quoted from bobukcat:

Al tratar de entender el problema de la traducción, ¿qué quiere decir con "un bote pequeño"? En inglés, un barco es un barco pequeño, un barco que viaja en el agua, si puede aclarar qué quiere decir, quizás podamos ayudarlo con el problema. Si hay un bote pequeño en tu campo de juego, tienes un gran problema.

small boat, I mean a small jump

#56 8 months ago
Quoted from mannymasy:

Sorry for my English.

It is a lot better than my Spanish, I assure you, no need to apologize.

#57 8 months ago

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#58 8 months ago

The one thing I did to help the magnet grab the ball was replace the post sleeve to the right side of the drop target with a newer and slightly larger post sleeve. I know it doesn’t seem like much but as the ball exits the orb lock that slightly bigger post sleeve bounced the ball out farther and directly over the magnet. After that my machine went from never catching the ball to catching it over 90% of the time.

#59 8 months ago

I already put the widest sleeve, the problem is that the ball hits a small jump just when it will pass over the magnet, this happens when the card rises after releasing the ball, the card rises with force and the vibration in the board the ball jumps a bit just when it's going to pass over the magnet

#60 8 months ago

in this video you can see the problem, look at this plase..

#61 8 months ago

when raising the drop target it causes the ball to hit a small jump when it is reaching the area of ​​the magnet. When jumping the ball the magnet can not hold it

#62 8 months ago

Are you sure that little jump is the problem? You might try recording in slow motion bUT it seems like your magnet is not working you should at least get a ltitle effect like a swirl as the ball goes over the magnet.

A few suggestions:

Check playfield angle,too steep might affect

Check magnet grab by placing ball on it while activating it in diagnostics

Hard to see in the video but the ball jump might be fixed by raising or lowering the drop target rest position,I think it can be adjusted from underneath

#63 8 months ago

already check and the magnet works perfectly, also has a washer so that the magnet is closer to the board. Before fixing the problem with the drop target always held the ball. It appears that the drop target when climbing with force causes the impact ball jump, this makes the magnet not hold

#64 8 months ago

recorded in slow motion, but when uploading the video to YouTube you upload it in normal speed

#65 8 months ago

Are those the original balls? I changed the balls in mine and the new ones don't catch nearly as well. Could be part of the issue.

#66 8 months ago

I slowed down your video with the you tube setting menu , I doubt that little jump is what is causing the magnet not to grab. . so if you have the magnet activated and you roll the ball out of the orb in magnet diagnostic mode without the target popping back up does it catch or swirl the ball ?

if you want to pursue the jump idea I wonder if you might be able to minimize it by adjusting the force of the drop target popping back up using either the spring tension on the mechanism or adjust the coil setting in the settings menu.

#67 8 months ago

the magnet grabs it perfectly in test mode. The magnet is not the problem and it checks it. It happens since I manipulated the mechanism to eliminate the drop target failure. If you watch another video originally when the drop target is lifted the ball is already in the magnet, in my machine as the mechanism varies, now it rises before the ball reaches the magnet and that is why the small jump causes the magnet not to hold the ball.

#68 8 months ago
Quoted from mannymasy:

the magnet grabs it perfectly in test mode. The magnet is not the problem and it checks it. It happens since I manipulated the mechanism to eliminate the drop target failure. If you watch another video originally when the drop target is lifted the ball is already in the magnet, in my machine as the mechanism varies, now it rises before the ball reaches the magnet and that is why the small jump causes the magnet not to hold the ball.

I'm in the group that finds it hard to believe that tiny little jump is enough to prevent the magnet from catching the ball properly, I'll check mine out better when I get home this afternoon but I think it does about the same amount of jump but still catches it perfectly at least 95% of the time. What kind of balls are you using?

#69 8 months ago

they are the original balls. I can say that before making the variations in drop target the magnet caught the ball perfectly, now only slightly deflects the ball but can not catch it. The lock of orb is having error again although I made all the possible modifications. new mechanism of drop orb that works correctly I will have to sell the machine. I like this machine very much and I would not like to have to do it

#70 8 months ago

Can you recommend a supplier that can sell me a new drop target orb mechanism updated? I want to keep this machine because I like it a lot

#71 8 months ago

Might have already been mentioned. I had this same problem when I unboxed mine. I saw someone had success removing the retention spring all together. I tried it, and haven't had any issues since.

At the the same time, I had reached out to the distribute, the got me in touch with Stern, seemed like a fairly common issue, they asked for a few pictures to see if the mech was an old model or new design.

#72 8 months ago
Quoted from crussell:

Podría haber sido ya mencionado. Tuve este mismo problema cuando desempaqué el mío. Vi que alguien tuvo éxito quitando el resorte de retención todos juntos. Lo intenté, y no he tenido ningún problema desde entonces.
Al mismo tiempo, me puse en contacto con el distribuidor, me pusieron en contacto con Stern, parecía un problema bastante común, me pidieron algunas fotos para ver si el mech era un modelo antiguo o un diseño nuevo.

Can you put a picture of the spring that you removed? Thank you

#73 8 months ago

a dealer in europe will have a spare part of the mechanism for sale but it's different, I'm going to buy one but I wanted to ask if someone has it on the machine and if it works well

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#74 8 months ago

FYI: Based upon this thread commenting on a 'upgraded' design to the drop target assembly, I contacted Chas at Stern asking about the 'upgraded' design as my new GOTG Premium was occasionally would not release the ball stuck behind it. Chas immediately knew what I was talking and offered to send me the changed part to fix my issue. The part came in today, and I installed it a little while ago. At first glance the part looked identical to the original piece, 535-1660-00 (part #24 in the diagram). However upon closer examination there is a small difference where the corners on the piece that pushes against the drop target plastic. Kind of hard to explain, but I took a pic of the old bracket where I used a black sharpie (circled in red) to indicate the corners that are missing on the newer replacement piece I got from Stern. Installed the new part and it is working perfectly so far. The change in the pieces is small enough that anyone with a Dremel or even a metal file can easily change their original piece to the new version. Looking at the mechanism I can easily see how those corners could hit the other bracket, keeping it from pushing down the plastic target. Removing those corners now allows that piece to move freely to the plastic target itself.
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#75 8 months ago

my problem is that the ball comes out before the drop target orb retains it by making the lock

#76 8 months ago
Quoted from mannymasy:

my problem is that the ball comes out before the drop target orb retains it by making the lock

Yes, and others have other drop target issues mentioned earlier in the thread. My post may help those people if they have those issues.

#77 8 months ago
Quoted from mannymasy:

in this video you can see the problem, look at this plase..

Watch the video in slow motion. You can change the playback speed on youtube.

Your drop target when in the down position is too low. You need to adjust it so it is even and level with the playfield. The ball is "jumping" because the drop target is too low and below the playfield instead of being flush and even.

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