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Wonka is Coming !!! Who’s in?


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#1601 3 months ago
Quoted from Guinnesstime:

It can’t be much different than TSPP couch locks. I have those set to carry over.

The TSPP ball lock takes 3 to 4 shots per ball depending if the garage door is open or not

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#1602 3 months ago
Quoted from EagleEd7:

DISAPOINTED!!! I seen and played several times the new Wonka and I wanted to like it and add it to my collect. But I was badly disappointed. It does no live up to the JJ machines of the past. I expected so much more in the modeling of items on the play field like OZ. They had so much they could have used from the movie. But they cheaped out. So sad for a great title. I guess I will have to wait till something more worthy comes along to add to my collection. So sad!

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#1603 3 months ago
Quoted from EagleEd7:

DISAPOINTED!!! I seen and played several times the new Wonka and I wanted to like it and add it to my collect. But I was badly disappointed. It does no live up to the JJ machines of the past. I expected so much more in the modeling of items on the play field like OZ. They had so much they could have used from the movie. But they cheaped out. So sad for a great title. I guess I will have to wait till something more worthy comes along to add to my collection. So sad!

What do you have in your collection?

#1604 3 months ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

What do you have in your collection?

Skyemont many people like yourself do not like to post that

#1605 3 months ago
Quoted from EagleEd7:

DISAPOINTED!!! I seen and played several times the new Wonka and I wanted to like it and add it to my collect. But I was badly disappointed. It does no live up to the JJ machines of the past. I expected so much more in the modeling of items on the play field like OZ. They had so much they could have used from the movie. But they cheaped out. So sad for a great title. I guess I will have to wait till something more worthy comes along to add to my collection. So sad!

What’s in your collection? Must be marked private or something.

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#1606 3 months ago
Quoted from f3honda4me:

You say this, but your actions are the opposite. Any time I state a positive opinion that is on topic and relative to the current conversation, you selectively jump all over me for some reason. This implies you care a great deal about what others say, do, or buy. When I say anything negative about a game, like when I said I was disappointed in the lack of innovation Wonka had compared to Dialed In, you seem to ignore that though.

Sounds confusing I guess, but I enjoy reading your posts and opinions. Thank you.

#1607 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

Sounds confusing I guess, but I enjoy reading your posts and opinions. Thank you.

I'm guessing your just not a Packers fan! lol Everyones view and opinion matters and is worth sharing.

#1608 3 months ago
Quoted from EagleEd7:

DISAPOINTED!!! I seen and played several times the new Wonka and I wanted to like it and add it to my collect. But I was badly disappointed. It does no live up to the JJ machines of the past. I expected so much more in the modeling of items on the play field like OZ. They had so much they could have used from the movie. But they cheaped out. So sad for a great title. I guess I will have to wait till something more worthy comes along to add to my collection. So sad!

Thank you for your honest review. Means a lot from a person that’s been able to play the table. We are all trying to see if this is worthy of over $10,000.00 by the time delivery and sales tax is added.

#1609 3 months ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

I'm guessing your just not a Packers fan! lol Everyones view and opinion matters and is worth sharing.

LA Chargers/Rams fan all the way. The problem is, which LA team does one choose? (Lol) Although “selectively”, I’m an Aaron Rodgers fan too! (Lol) Can anyone throw the exciting game changing deep bomb like he does?

#1610 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

Thank you for your honest review. Means a lot from a person that’s been able to play the table. We are all trying to see if this is worthy of over $10,000.00 by the time delivery and sales tax is added.

What about the other 100 good reveiws of people that played Wonka.Do you appreciate their honest reviews?

#1611 3 months ago
Quoted from romulusx:

What about the other 100 good reveiws of people that played Wonka.Do you appreciate their honest reviews?

Don't seem like it... looks to be looking for only negative reviews lol.

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#1612 3 months ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

Don't seem like it... looks to be looking for only negative reviews lol.

Stern lover?

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#1613 3 months ago

I agree with this dude here!

#1614 3 months ago

What do i sell out of my collection to get Wonka LE.

#1615 3 months ago

Just ordered a CE to Sweden, 16 000 USD - can´t wait

#1616 3 months ago
Quoted from romulusx:

What about the other 100 good reveiws of people that played Wonka.Do you appreciate their honest reviews?

Yes, of course.

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#1617 3 months ago
Quoted from romulusx:

What about the other 100 good reveiws of people that played Wonka.Do you appreciate their honest reviews?

One new member makes an unpopular first comment and for Pinside people are not to bad but are not nice. A second new member throws him a bone and you jump on him for it again not bad for Pinside but far from friendly to a newbie LOL typical Pinside

#1618 3 months ago

I love who gives my family the best enjoyment and entertainment value for our hard earned money. And the greatest resale value if we get tired of it. Not a fanboy of any company. Just trying to see the value in WW and it’s getting more difficult to find, because of the very high costs compared to other companies offerings.

Saw the value in WOZ when it was $6,500, now the same table is being offered for $11.5k value to dollar ratio is not good at all at new high prices. WW is not even close to WOZRR in value for money ratio. Difficult to find in BK as well and did have money on an LE but cancelled for the time being till I can play it.

I fear what most should be very concerned about. Is JJP pricing themselves out of the market?

#1619 3 months ago

Pinside Basher

#1620 3 months ago
Quoted from JY64:

One new member makes an unpopular first comment and for Pinside people are not to bad but are not nice. A second new member throws him a bone and you jump on him for it again not bad for Pinside but far from friendly to a newbie LOL typical Pinside

Let's not forget, the new member jumped on other people before anyone ever jumped on him.

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#1621 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

I love who gives my family the best enjoyment and entertainment value for our hard earned money. And the greatest resale value if we get tired of it. Not a fanboy of any company. Just trying to see the value in WW and it’s getting more difficult to find, because of the very high costs compared to other companies offerings.
Saw the value in WOZ when it was $6,500, now the same table is being offered for $11.5k value to dollar ratio is not good at all at new high prices. WW is not even close to WOZRR in value for money ratio. Difficult to find in BK as well and did have money on an LE but cancelled for the time being till I can play it.
I fear what most should be very concerned about. Is JJP pricing themselves out of the market?

How do you come up with this value ratio? Woz is a good pin but di and wonka are much better to play imo. So many more shots and playability with wonka and di layout. Also every new pin will decrease in value at today's prices but id bet the se wonka won't fall to much when all said in done. You sld just wait to buy a nice used huo model if your worried about value. Jjp prices on wonka will be fine and they will sell plenty of all models.

#1622 3 months ago
Quoted from f3honda4me:

Let's not forget, the new member jumped on other people before anyone ever jumped on him.

This was his first and only post tell me who did he jump on "DISAPOINTED!!! I seen and played several times the new Wonka and I wanted to like it and add it to my collect. But I was badly disappointed. It does no live up to the JJ machines of the past. I expected so much more in the modeling of items on the play field like OZ. They had so much they could have used from the movie. But they cheaped out. So sad for a great title. I guess I will have to wait till something more worthy comes along to add to my collection. So sad"

#1623 3 months ago
Quoted from Northstar1976:

Just ordered a CE to Sweden, 16 000 USD - can´t wait

$16 grand USD - seems worth it

#1624 3 months ago
Quoted from JY64:

This was his first and only post tell me who did he jump on "DISAPOINTED!!! I seen and played several times the new Wonka and I wanted to like it and add it to my collect. But I was badly disappointed. It does no live up to the JJ machines of the past. I expected so much more in the modeling of items on the play field like OZ. They had so much they could have used from the movie. But they cheaped out. So sad for a great title. I guess I will have to wait till something more worthy comes along to add to my collection. So sad"

Agreed he didn’t jump on anyone. He gave us all an honest appraisal and something we should be thinking about before possibly blowing over $10 grand is what I’ve gotten from it. Not saying an SE is totally out yet, will still look into it. Value to dollar ratio is getting very hard to justify. It seems to appear that, JJP pricing for NIB might be way too high?

Like my new friend f3honda4me said, “I was disappointed in the lack of innovation Wonka had compared to Dialed In”. I would have to agree with him. My problem is, I like the movie and Pat’s work, so trying to justify it. But the more reviews that confirm my fears...

#1625 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

Agreed he didn’t jump on anyone. He gave us all an honest appraisal and something we should be thinking about before possibly blowing over $10 grand is what I’ve gotten from it. Not saying an SE is totally out yet, will still look into it. Value to dollar ratio is getting very hard to justify. It seems to appear that, JJP pricing for NIB might be way too high?
Like my new friend f3honda4me said, “I was disappointed in the lack of innovation Wonka had compared to Dialed In”. I would have to agree with him. My problem is, I like the movie and Pat’s work, so trying to justify it. But the more reviews that confirm my fears...

I have a crazy idea... how about you play it and make your own decision. Not everyone likes the same stuff so basing your purchase power from others reviews isn't the answer. I know it sounds crazy but just wait to play it in a controlled environment and decide for yourself.

#1626 3 months ago

Got to play once at Allentown, so this is hardly an extensive review. Overall I had a good impression of the game, and felt fun for the time I played it, and others before and next to me, seemed to enjoy it, and commented to me that it was very well done. There were several different shots to make, the gobstopper was a neat toy.. It was by far the longest line to wait in to get a play... Not at all sure if any of the video interaction is currently well done (as I really only stared at the playfield when I had my turn), but would surely improve as code progresses, but seems to have all the bones needed for a beautiful addition..

#1627 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

I love who gives my family the best enjoyment and entertainment value for our hard earned money. And the greatest resale value if we get tired of it. Not a fanboy of any company. Just trying to see the value in WW and it’s getting more difficult to find, because of the very high costs compared to other companies offerings.
Saw the value in WOZ when it was $6,500, now the same table is being offered for $11.5k value to dollar ratio is not good at all at new high prices. WW is not even close to WOZRR in value for money ratio. Difficult to find in BK as well and did have money on an LE but cancelled for the time being till I can play it.
I fear what most should be very concerned about. Is JJP pricing themselves out of the market?

I understand. The prices are really high. Trying to see if a 9,500 game is worth it can be hard to determine for sure.

#1628 3 months ago
Quoted from JY64:

Pinside Basher

Not at all. I support JJP and own Sterns so.

#1629 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

Agreed he didn’t jump on anyone. He gave us all an honest appraisal and something we should be thinking about before possibly blowing over $10 grand is what I’ve gotten from it. Not saying an SE is totally out yet, will still look into it. Value to dollar ratio is getting very hard to justify. It seems to appear that, JJP pricing for NIB might be way too high?
Like my new friend f3honda4me said, “I was disappointed in the lack of innovation Wonka had compared to Dialed In”. I would have to agree with him. My problem is, I like the movie and Pat’s work, so trying to justify it. But the more reviews that confirm my fears...

To note, when looking at reviews of people who have seen and played the game, there are far more positive reviews than negative.

#1630 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

I love who gives my family the best enjoyment and entertainment value for our hard earned money. And the greatest resale value if we get tired of it. Not a fanboy of any company. Just trying to see the value in WW and it’s getting more difficult to find, because of the very high costs compared to other companies offerings.
Saw the value in WOZ when it was $6,500, now the same table is being offered for $11.5k value to dollar ratio is not good at all at new high prices. WW is not even close to WOZRR in value for money ratio. Difficult to find in BK as well and did have money on an LE but cancelled for the time being till I can play it.
I fear what most should be very concerned about. Is JJP pricing themselves out of the market?

I think JJP is pricing themselves out of competition. I picked up a new Stern pro and MBr for the same price as Wonka LE shipped. That's a no brainer. Although I would still like a Wonka, I'll consider it if/when the SE's hit the second hand market in the mid 6ks.

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#1631 3 months ago

Nobody liked DI when it was revealed, now a lot of people love that game. Haven't played WW, but I think it's going to be a really fun game. Do I wish they would have done some things different, sure, we all do.

Lawlor with the coding I believe will be a fun game for people to have.

#1632 3 months ago

I find it hard to believe you got a Stern PRO and MBr for $9500, unless they were used and the PRO was older.

Quoted from PokerJake:

I think JJP is pricing themselves out of competition. I picked up a new Stern pro and MBr for the same price as Wonka LE shipped. That's a no brainer. Although I would still like a Wonka, I'll consider it if/when the SE's hit the second hand market in the mid 6ks.

#1633 3 months ago
Quoted from PokerJake:

I think JJP is pricing themselves out of competition. I picked up a new Stern pro and MBr for the same price as Wonka LE shipped. That's a no brainer. Although I would still like a Wonka, I'll consider it if/when the SE's hit the second hand market in the mid 6ks.

NIB stern pro and NIB MBr for $9500? Please share with us where you got such a deal. That's $3700 off NIB pricing.

#1634 3 months ago

it was

Quoted from luvthatapex2:

I find it hard to believe you got a Stern PRO and MBr for $9500, unless they were used and the PRO was older.

Shipping was waived on the MBR and the pro was nicely discounted ACDC, both new. It was just over 10k, and the Wonka Shipped was going to be $9800, so basically the same. Cash discount as well.

#1635 3 months ago
Quoted from JY64:

One new member makes an unpopular first comment and for Pinside people are not to bad but are not nice. A second new member throws him a bone and you jump on him for it again not bad for Pinside but far from friendly to a newbie LOL typical Pinside

I was commenting on jime5t

#1636 3 months ago
Quoted from PokerJake:

it was

Shipping was waived on the MBR and the pro was nicely discounted ACDC, both new. It was just over 10k, and the Wonka Shipped was going to be $9800, so basically the same. Cash discount as well.

No Way - go back and look at your invoice AND any deposits.

Unless MBR means something else .... Miguel’s Black Rose.

#1637 3 months ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

No Way - go back and look at your invoice AND any deposits.
Unless MBR means something else .... Miguel’s Black Rose.

Totally agree. Prove it!

#1638 3 months ago

This place is getting overran with bs.... looking so forward to the fan club!

#1639 3 months ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

No Way - go back and look at your invoice AND any deposits.
Unless MBR means something else .... Miguel’s Black Rose.

If it was an MBR Classic that was a show/demo game it could have been bought for around $5500. and special pricing on ACDC Pro could be around $5K so it is possible.

#1640 3 months ago
Quoted from MikeS:

If it was an MBR Classic that was a show/demo game it could have been bought for around $5500. and special pricing on ACDC Pro could be around $5K so it is possible.

It was a classic and you are about exactly right.

#1641 3 months ago
Quoted from MikeS:

If it was an MBR Classic that was a show/demo game it could have been bought for around $5500. and special pricing on ACDC Pro could be around $5K so it is possible.

Quoted from PokerJake:

It was a classic and you are about exactly right.

Point proven, good score! Now is prime time to be buying the games instead of waiting for the next design (which promises to be the best game ever) or your grail title (rarely come as wished for). AC/DC is a treasure that smacks you in the nuts, while I may buy a MBR also, solely because of how spectacular it looks. Wonka looks as promising as either of those, but not as good as both. You made a smart choice.

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#1642 3 months ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

I have a crazy idea... how about you play it and make your own decision. Not everyone likes the same stuff so basing your purchase power from others reviews isn't the answer. I know it sounds crazy but just wait to play it in a controlled environment and decide for yourself.

Have an even crazier idea...find a place that has one to play so I can play one? Lol, until then, have no other way to judge than others honest reviews that have already played WW. Fanboy reviews for the most part don’t offer much do they?

So as you put it, it would be a “crazy” idea to rely on a fanboy review. That’s why many are looking here, to find out from the non-fanboys if the game has innovation, uniqueness, fun toys that actually interact with the ball, won’t grow tiresome, etc. and plays well enough to plunge over $10k into it. This isn’t an owners thread right? No one has WW yet and probably won’t till fall or later, judging by JJPs past. If earlier, will be pleasantly surprised like everyone else. JJP is not like Stern, that announces and in short order delivers. Now that’s a crazy idea: keep to promised delivery schedule...

#1643 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

Have an even crazier idea...find a place that has one to play so I can play one? Lol, until then, have no other way to judge than others honest reviews that have already played WW. Fanboy reviews for the most part don’t offer much do they?
So as you put it, it would be a “crazy” idea to rely on a fanboy review. That’s why many are looking here, to find out from the non-fanboys if the game has innovation, uniqueness, fun toys that actually interact with the ball, won’t grow tiresome, etc. and plays well enough to plunge over $10k into it. This isn’t an owners thread right? No one has WW yet and probably won’t till fall or later, judging by JJPs past. If earlier, will be pleasantly surprised like everyone else. JJP is not like Stern, that announces and in short order delivers. Now that’s a crazy idea: keep to promised delivery schedule...

Dude,just shut the hell up,we’re sick of your bullshit!Move along Stern fan boy

#1644 3 months ago
Quoted from mountaingamer:

This place is getting overran with bs.... looking so forward to the fan club!

Club thread already exists in the club forum.

#1645 3 months ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

What do i sell out of my collection to get Wonka LE.

Nothing!

#1646 3 months ago

Why would you say that? Explain thyself!

#1647 3 months ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

Why would you say that? Explain thyself!

I don't think it is an anti wonk I think it is more never sell a game thing

#1648 3 months ago

Does anyone know if Wonka will be at California Extreme?

I'm considering going and a chance to play it would bump the odds that I do.

#1649 3 months ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

Have an even crazier idea...find a place that has one to play so I can play one? Lol, until then, have no other way to judge than others honest reviews that have already played WW. Fanboy reviews for the most part don’t offer much do they?
So as you put it, it would be a “crazy” idea to rely on a fanboy review. That’s why many are looking here, to find out from the non-fanboys if the game has innovation, uniqueness, fun toys that actually interact with the ball, won’t grow tiresome, etc. and plays well enough to plunge over $10k into it. This isn’t an owners thread right? No one has WW yet and probably won’t till fall or later, judging by JJPs past. If earlier, will be pleasantly surprised like everyone else. JJP is not like Stern, that announces and in short order delivers. Now that’s a crazy idea: keep to promised delivery schedule...

I have ignored 99% of the above (no offense), but since your in LA. There should be one local next week only in Van Nuys, see the CA for sale thread post here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-california-for-sale-club-and-wanted-too/page/158#post-4982884

Cheers

#1650 3 months ago
Quoted from zaphX:

Does anyone know if Wonka will be at California Extreme?
I'm considering going and a chance to play it would bump the odds that I do.

Come out to GSPF, there will be at least one there

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