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Wonka is Coming !!! Who’s in?


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#1401 32 days ago
Quoted from drained:

I am in the same camp, looking for some kinda answer on them. I disected the streams like a wierdo, only could find one instance of a movement and a single comment. With there being 6 mags on the field I hope there is more to them just than the random seldom movement. I know Lawlor loves mags, was hoping to see some DI type movement.. afraid they are not strong enough or poorly located. Hope it's just a code issue.
Could be deal breaker for me on buying.. I love magnents.

I actually like that they are higher up on the playfield... that way they won't cause as many unfair drains. I wld guess that they will be better coded (more active/powerful) on the next update.

#1402 32 days ago
Quoted from drained:

I am in the same camp, looking for some kinda answer on them. I disected the streams like a wierdo, only could find one instance of a movement and a single comment. With there being 6 mags on the field I hope there is more to them just than the random seldom movement. I know Lawlor loves mags, was hoping to see some DI type movement.. afraid they are not strong enough or poorly located. Hope it's just a code issue.
Could be deal breaker for me on buying.. I love magnents.

Placement: 1 magnet is above the upper left flipper to hold the ball when you need to go across the playfield to hit the spinner shot.

In the pic you can see the mini lights (which look awesome in person and I'm sure even better in the dark). There are six circles. The 3 on the right are right on top of each other. The 3 on the left make kind of a triangle

Usage: Pat Lawlor told me that during multiballs they will be activated. I dont know if that is all the time. Great question for the stream tomorrow. I believe they are already in and will be in other modes/mini modes as well.

Imagine those magnets working together. Pat said they make some pretty neat patterns and coordinate with the lighting as well.
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#1403 32 days ago
Quoted from RichieWrench:

what is a Bugatti?????

A fun little rapper car with $25,000 oil changes...seriously

#1404 32 days ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Agree. David Thiel is a master at creating pinball music and sounds.
The video below is of David Thiel talking about creating music and sounds for Hobbit. At one point he talks about taking a licensed song, The Old Friends theme, and creating several variants of it. He also talks about avoiding looping in music, implementing dialogue, pulling sounds from assets, etc. The quantity, variety, and quality of music / sounds put into games by David Thiel has been incredible. He knows how to create custom pinball sounds, music as well as leveraging licensed assets and then tying it to specific modes and events in game. It's a huge bummer that he's no longer at JJP.
On a side note I think The Hobbit may go down as David Thiels magnum opus, his master work.

If you watch anything from the video I posted above check out the section below where David talks about creating several variants of a licensed track to get more mileage out of it. Incredible stuff.

The Hobbit music was done by Two Steps From Hell not David Thiel. TSFH is the number one epic music band in the world outselling and streaming all of the top film composers in the world, including Hans Zimmer, John Williams, Howard Shore and Danny Elfman. David Thiel did great work on the sound effects in the Hobbit and putting it all together, but the 99% of the music came from Two Steps From Hell.

#1405 32 days ago
Quoted from ozno:

The Hobbit music was done by Two Steps From Hell not David Thiel. TSFH is the number one epic music band in the world outselling and streaming all of the top film composers in the world, including Hans Zimmer, John Williams, Howard Shore and Danny Elfman. David Thiel did good work on the sound effects in the Hobbit, but the 99% of the music came from Two Steps From Hell.

I couldn't find info on their wiki page, but this seems definitely accurate.

Thanks for this tidbit of info.

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#1406 32 days ago
Quoted from wesman:

Always a hoot Lloyd!

This is the best thing I've seen on any forum

Thanks ltg

#1407 26 days ago
Quoted from ozno:

The Hobbit music was done by Two Steps From Hell not David Thiel. TSFH is the number one epic music band in the world outselling and streaming all of the top film composers in the world, including Hans Zimmer, John Williams, Howard Shore and Danny Elfman. David Thiel did great work on the sound effects in the Hobbit and putting it all together, but the 99% of the music came from Two Steps From Hell.

It's both. Two Steps From Hell did a ton of the music, but David did a lot of his own (the main LOTR type theme is David's arrangement), plus the voice and sound FX package.

#1408 26 days ago

There's a whole video where Theil talks about everything that went into the sound, including Two Steps From Hell and a plug for them. I think it's this one:
NWPAS 2015 - D2 S5 - Jersey Jack Butch Peel David Thiel

#1409 21 days ago

Can't make the show and want to order a Willy Wonka ? Email Joe at Sales@PinballSTAR.com !

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#1410 21 days ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Can't make the show and want to order a Willy Wonka ? Email Joe at Sales@PinballSTAR.com !
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Is there no rule about spamming all of the Wonka threads with ads?

#1411 21 days ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

Is there no rule about spamming all of the Wonka threads with ads?

Joe is harmless. Plus its more of a Show invite to play which seems like an invite to me which is appreciated.

#1412 21 days ago

And, sponsors/vendors are a large part of why this site can exist.

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#1413 21 days ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

Is there no rule about spamming all of the Wonka threads with ads?

New rule should be made.

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#1414 21 days ago
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:

New rule should be made.

Says the guy who does Not contribute to Pinside..... love or hate the salesmen they Do contribute to the $$$ of running the site we All use so I am fine with their posts or even soliciting.

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#1415 21 days ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

Is there no rule about spamming all of the Wonka threads with ads?

This isn't as much of a 'for sale' thing as it is letting folks know a brand new game most everyone on the east coast hasn't seen yet is going to be at the show. I get emails daily asking what I'm bringing and where they can play Wonka though us. This is a way to get that word out and answers those questions in one pass. Primarily though to get people who may be interested to GO to the show and support the show by walking through the door and dropping some coin. People who want to buy know how to find me that's not a concern for me. Just trying to drum up excitement for the show is important. I'm dragging 25 games to the show so I think I'm allowed to tell people what I'm bringing especially with WW being a hot thing. I actually even pay a lot of money on FB to promote Pinfest show there too and I have zero stake in it - the bigger the show, everyone wins ! I DO stuff in the hobby, so no apologies here.

And FYI I just donated to Pinside today before I posted that announcement - not for that reason, just because, but funny others brought that up ! and you don't want to know what I pay a year in ads to support Robin and team as well because it's a great medium for all of us. That said, someone who does or doesn't donate doesn't have more or less rights on others - this guys entitled to his opinion as well. Honestly, sorry to bother you about it.

#1416 21 days ago

Advertising once in this thread and once in that thread, in a non-overbearing manner, to their target audience(livelihood) while contributing to this community, which helps continue its existence should not be allowed?

As I am also very new to this hobby and forum but see this moderate advertising as helpful in knowing what and where things will be happening while also seeing which distributor is actively involved in this community. I do again, as it is in tasteful moderation, find this helpful. I have also reached out to several distributors when finding a pin I want and they have all worked very hard to earn my business while maintaining very friendly service, even answering texts/emails at 9pm-10pm due to my work schedule. I respect that a lot. I cannot speak for everyone on here as this is my opinion and experience with the distributors I’ve reached out to.

#1417 21 days ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Can't make the show and want to order a Willy Wonka ? Email Joe at Sales@PinballSTAR.com !
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Thanks for the heads up! We appreciate it when you let us know you have new games for us to try. Thanks for making them available at the show!

#1418 21 days ago

There's a new interview with Eric up from the LoserKid Pinball Podcast. Lots of cool information about Willy Wonka, Pirates, designing games, etc. Eric mentions how Willy Wonka is designed for on location pinball with approachable rules. Still sounds like there's going to to be a few wizard modes in the game based on what he said.

It's possible that Wonka was purposely scaled back a bit in terms of mechanical features due to JJP wanting a more reliable on location pin? Even the standard at $7500 still has a good amount going on in it.

https://soundcloud.com/loserkidpinballpodcast

#1419 21 days ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

It's possible that Wonka was purposely scaled back a bit in terms of mechanical features due to JJP wanting a more reliable on location pin? Even the standard at $7500 still has a good amount going on in it.

I think so, there are really no complicated mechs that can/will break and, nothing wrong with that. It benefits JJP to get more games out there on location and in the hands of people that can't afford $9,000 machines.

#1420 21 days ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Can't make the show and want to order a Willy Wonka ? Email Joe at Sales@PinballSTAR.com !
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Can’t wait to play it at Allentown. If I like it I’m hoping they are available ready to go by the York show so I can pick one up there. Save on shipping. Maybe get the show model to save a little more.

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#1421 21 days ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

Is there no rule about spamming all of the Wonka threads with ads?

Your salty vag is showing.

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#1422 21 days ago

I dont think "spamming every Wonka thread" is the real issue. I think the fact that there are A LOT of separate threads is the bigger issue. As a distributor, making sure people know where they can come to play games (and therefore potentially buy games) is a priority.
I get more annoyed by the constant pressing of the ads at the bottom of each thread by companies that only pay for the service monetarily (which is needed to keep the site going), and not by helping out current and potential customers within said threads when questions are asked.

#1423 21 days ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

There's a new interview with Eric up from the LoserKid Pinball Podcast. Lots of cool information about Willy Wonka, Pirates, designing games, etc. Eric mentions how Willy Wonka is designed for on location pinball with approachable rules. Still sounds like there's going to to be a few wizard modes in the game based on what he said.
It's possible that Wonka was purposely scaled back a bit in terms of mechanical features due to JJP wanting a more reliable on location pin? Even the standard at $7500 still has a good amount going on in it.
https://soundcloud.com/loserkidpinballpodcast

There was one thing that bothered me about the discussion regarding getting more games into locations during this interview of Eric. In this interview, Eric pushed the physical ball locks on the ramp and the ability to steal balls that are physically locked as ones that will be attractive to players in operator locations. He described how players would walk by and see two balls sitting on the ramp in the back and this would attract them to the game or get them to play again as they realize that they are getting close to a multiball event. Players on location will also, according to Eric, like the idea of being able to steal locked balls. The problem with this is that we have been told that the Standard Edition will only have virtual locks and there will be no ability to steal locked balls, so the features that Eric was pushing as great for arcade operators won't even be in the lower priced Standard Edition that was intended to increase the number of operators buying JJP games for location use.

#1424 21 days ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

Says the guy who does Not contribute to Pinside..... love or hate the salesmen they Do contribute to the $$$ of running the site we All use so I am fine with their posts or even soliciting.

Rofl. I was just kidding. I am dying.

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#1425 21 days ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

Says the guy who does Not contribute to Pinside..... love or hate the salesmen they Do contribute to the $$$ of running the site we All use so I am fine with their posts or even soliciting.

I do contribute buy selling my games less than anyone so value is passed on. Just ask anyone who bought games from me. Peace out.

#1426 20 days ago
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:

I do contribute buy selling my games less than anyone so value is passed on. Just ask anyone who bought games from me. Peace out.

And that helps support this forum how again....

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#1427 20 days ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

And that helps support this forum how again....

By saving pinsiders money so they can donate more to pinside

#1428 20 days ago
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:

By saving pinsiders money so they can donate more to pinside

I thought you could only lurk on the site sans donation?

$5 a year for all the engagement from other users is MORE than we worth it, just to help keep the lights on, and actual ads down.

#1429 20 days ago

My question was a legitimate question. If there isn't a rule, there isn't a rule. I am following the Wonka threads and got hit with this ad twice in a row for an event (far away from most on average) that is also an ad for sales (the true motivation). What if all of the distros worldwide that support events to sell Wonkas did this in all the Wonka threads? There are many of them. Again, if there isn't a rule, there isn't a rule. No need to attack

#1430 20 days ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

My question was a legitimate question. If there isn't a rule, there isn't a rule. I am following the Wonka threads and got hit with this ad twice in a row for an event (far away from most on average) that is also an ad for sales (the true motivation). What if all of the distros worldwide that support events to sell Wonkas did this in all the Wonka threads? There are many of them. Again, if there isn't a rule, there isn't a rule. No need to attack

No rule that I know of. There is a feature to "ignore" a user so you dont see any of their posts. It is extreme, but you could do that.

#1431 18 days ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

It's possible that Wonka was purposely scaled back a bit in terms of mechanical features due to JJP wanting a more reliable on location pin?

Yes, it appears to be scaled back in many areas, over the last standard body made. Mechanical features is what we’re all looking for in a new machine. The way Bally/Williams did it. The way WOZ did it. Today’s company is charging us big money, but don’t want the hassle of mechs that don’t work well. Just charge us less for less being sold and we’ll all be happy.

#1432 18 days ago

Come play Willy Wonka and WOZ YBR at Allentown Pinfest this weekend in the PinballSTAR booth !

Can’t make the show and interested in purchasing ? Email Joe at Sales@PinballSTAR.com.

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#1433 18 days ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

Is there no rule about spamming all of the Wonka threads with ads?

Ummm...Nope, No rule.
Thanks Joe for the updates.

#1434 18 days ago

That blue armor looks really nice.

#1435 18 days ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Come play Willy Wonka and WOZ YBR at Allentown Pinfest this weekend in the PinballSTAR booth !
Can’t make the show and interested in purchasing ? Email Joe at Sales@PinballSTAR.com.
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On our way... looking fwd to playing this

#1436 18 days ago

Thank you Joe for posting this side by side pic of the SE and LE!

Makes me realize that while I would prefer to have Gene on there, I am fine with the SE artwork and trim. However, that back corner of the playfield does look pretty dark and lonely on the SE when you see it right next to the LE. I am wondering if it looks any better with the game on?

Can someone going to the show take/post this same pic with both games turned on?

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#1437 18 days ago
Quoted from Gorgar123:

Thank you Joe for posting this side by side pic of the SE and LE!
Makes me realize that while I would prefer to have Gene on there, I am fine with the SE artwork and trim. However, that back corner of the playfield does look pretty dark and lonely on the SE when you see it right next to the LE. I am wondering if it looks any better with the game on?
Can someone going to the show take/post this same pic with both games turned on?
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No lighting or anything in that area on the se.

#1438 18 days ago
Quoted from Gorgar123:

Thank you Joe for posting this side by side pic of the SE and LE!
Makes me realize that while I would prefer to have Gene on there, I am fine with the SE artwork and trim. However, that back corner of the playfield does look pretty dark and lonely on the SE when you see it right next to the LE. I am wondering if it looks any better with the game on?
Can someone going to the show take/post this same pic with both games turned on?
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Quoted from Gorgar123:

Thank you Joe for posting this side by side pic of the SE and LE!
Makes me realize that while I would prefer to have Gene on there, I am fine with the SE artwork and trim. However, that back corner of the playfield does look pretty dark and lonely on the SE when you see it right next to the LE. I am wondering if it looks any better with the game on?
Can someone going to the show take/post this same pic with both games turned on?
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These are still prototype games right?
I think the LE is just missing the Blue Wireforms right?

#1439 18 days ago
Quoted from Gorgar123:

Thank you Joe for posting this side by side pic of the SE and LE!
Makes me realize that while I would prefer to have Gene on there, I am fine with the SE artwork and trim. However, that back corner of the playfield does look pretty dark and lonely on the SE when you see it right next to the LE. I am wondering if it looks any better with the game on?
Can someone going to the show take/post this same pic with both games turned on?
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Modcouple, Mezel Mods, etc will fix that. Not even a question in my mind of which to buy considering the price difference. I'm OK not having a big clear VUK in the back left....

#1440 18 days ago
Quoted from Join_The_Cirqus:

These are still prototype games right?
I think the LE is just missing the Blue Wireforms right?

Yep it sld /will have those powder coated also

#1441 18 days ago
Quoted from Join_The_Cirqus:

These are still prototype games right?

Good point. I wonder how close these are to the final product? I guess there is a chance that the SE could still end up getting some lighting or plastics/art in that back corner.

Quoted from Join_The_Cirqus:

I think the LE is just missing the Blue Wireforms right?

Yup. The LE seems to be missing art below the screen as well?

#1442 18 days ago

I‘m hoping I can get an SE with standard stainless steel armor.

#1443 18 days ago

Sorry if this was talked about already but I just noticed this machine is being made. Awesome!! Love Willy Wonka.

Curious as for me, the main difference betweeen the standard and the limited is the Wonkavator Super Ball Lock. Can anyone tell me or post a picture of what the ball lock would be for the standard version? Only images that I seem to find are of the limited.

#1444 18 days ago

Man, I would jump all over this but like others have said, the artwork on the cabinet for the standard really is weak... I realize there are licenses to be paid and whatnot, but at the end of the day, we are spending thousands of dollars on a game and it should look nice regardless.

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#1445 18 days ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

And that helps support this forum how again....

I got bullied so I didn’t donate this year.

#1446 18 days ago
Quoted from branlon8:

I‘m hoping I can get an SE with standard stainless steel armor.

I believe the se will be ?

#1447 18 days ago
Quoted from Rager170:

Sorry if this was talked about already but I just noticed this machine is being made. Awesome!! Love Willy Wonka.
Curious as for me, the main difference betweeen the standard and the limited is the Wonkavator Super Ball Lock. Can anyone tell me or post a picture of what the ball lock would be for the standard version? Only images that I seem to find are of the limited.

Gameplay differences are only the ball lock but the le comes with a nicer finish and more bling/upgrades

#1448 18 days ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

Gameplay differences are only the ball lock but the le comes with a nicer finish and more bling/upgrades

Yes I realize that. I was mainly commenting on the cabinet art. Its looks unfinished on the SE.

#1449 18 days ago

What version do you need to buy to get that black trim? I think that looks really good.

#1450 18 days ago
Quoted from jalpert:

What version do you need to buy to get that black trim? I think that looks really good.

Thats the Standard.

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