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GTB Spiderman Resto - Let’s Get This Game Slinging Again

By Colsond3

4 years ago


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#151 4 years ago
Quoted from bssbllr:

Always doing great work.

Thanks Bob. Hope all is well with you in this mess. Stay safe man.

#152 4 years ago

Thanks Colson appreciate the well wishes. The same to you it’s crazy times. It might sound weird but I’m thankful for pinside. Gives me something to do while at chemo.

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#153 4 years ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

Any progress lately?

OK. You got me to drag the playfield back out!!

I did get the lane guides that were on backorder and put them on. Going to play with the cabinet tomorrow. Have a few techniques someone showed me as opposed to repainting the whole thing. I’ll see how it works.
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#154 4 years ago

Gosh you're making me miss my Hulk even more! I really miss having that game around, but you can't keep em all!

Yours looks great, but personally I've never understood the theory behind putting "color matched" LEDs on playfield inserts. Detracts from the artwork or alters it to a point that I can't stand is how I've always felt on the matter. I just see EVERYBODY doing it and I don't get it.

#155 4 years ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Gosh you're making me miss my Hulk even more! I really miss having that game around, but you can't keep em all!
Yours looks great, but personally I've never understood the theory behind putting "color matched" LEDs on playfield inserts. Detracts from the artwork or alters it to a point that I can't stand is how I've always felt on the matter. I just see EVERYBODY doing it and I don't get it.

On the inserts? I didn’t do the inserts on Hulk yet, but if the insert is already the color of the bulb you throw in to illuminate it, I don’t see an issue with that. I’ll often put green under green inserts, red under red. Most others cool white or sunlight brightens them up nicely.

I don’t like colored GI that washes out the playfield art. On Hulk I did put a green bulb behind each of the 3 stand up targets, for accent too...but mainly to show the task/rule. Other than those 3 bulbs, the rest of the GI are Comet Sunlight LEDs.

#156 4 years ago
Quoted from Colsond3:

On the inserts? I didn’t do the inserts on Hulk yet, but if the insert is already the color of the bulb you throw in to illuminate it, I don’t see an issue with that. I’ll often put green under green inserts, red under red. Most others cool white or sunlight brightens them up nicely.
I don’t like colored GI that washes out the playfield art. On Hulk I did put a green bulb behind each of the 3 stand up targets, for accent too...but mainly to show the task/rule. Other than those 3 bulbs, the rest of the GI are Comet Sunlight LEDs.

Caught my typo, I meant G.I. under the plastics. What a dummy I am. I am now seeing/realizing/understanding your green LEDs on the standup.

Thanks for responding to my bizarre thoughts!

#157 4 years ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Caught my typo, I meant G.I. under the plastics. What a dummy I am. I am now seeing/realizing/understanding your green LEDs on the standup.
Thanks for responding to my bizarre thoughts!

That is what I figured, just wanted to clarify. There is a whole thread dedicated to “color puking” games, but the posts there are very condescending and antagonistic for the most part.

I might add a few color LED’s as accents or to show tasks, but usually don’t go overboard. Although I did it in my BSD a long time ago. I’m sure you love that. LOL.

I do like the way it looks, admittedly, but that game is due for a shop job. Might go back to cool white or sunlight LEDs when I rip it down. But I do feel like BSD deserves to be a little darker.
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#158 4 years ago

Looks good to me. Lol

#159 4 years ago

Yeah sorry, I didn't mean to derail this thread and I definitely didn't mean to be an asshole. I was just genuinely curious your thoughts on your decision to put those in there.

Carry on and downvote me as necessary. I'll deserve it.

#160 4 years ago

There are no downvotes in this thread, well at least from me. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. No need to apologize at all.

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#161 4 years ago

Well, you convinced me, I’m going to try to follow you through this. I’m new to restorations, would you recommend I get everything operational and then fix it up, or just start cleaning and prepping and assume it will all come together? Are there any table killers or dead end parts I need to be looking for before I start to know if I’m wasting my time, or can everything be fixed?

From the leaves and dirt dobber nests I can tell this has spent some time outdoors, but I don’t see any major water damage. Playfield and back glass not bad, but the cabinet is beat up pretty bad.

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#162 4 years ago

Your playfield looks to be in great shape! Good luck!

#163 4 years ago
Quoted from ArchStanton:

Well, you convinced me, I’m going to try to follow you through this. I’m new to restorations, would you recommend I get everything operational and then fix it up, or just start cleaning and prepping and assume it will all come together?

Awesome. Thanks for following along. I’m starting back on mine tomorrow ironically.

First, that PF does look great. Is there any wear on it? If not, I would strip that thing down and get it clearcoated first to preserve that art.

If it doesn’t boot at all, you might want to get it firing up first. Most parts are available for it, from some source, so you could just start disassembling and get it pretty first.

That transformer board does look pretty crappy and rusted, so you might want to clean that up and check the transformers.

Cabinet doesn’t look that bad to me, unless it has water damage. Actually looks pretty good other than the rusted / oxidized siderails.

#164 4 years ago

PF looks really good. One touch up spot by Kingpin. It doesn’t have any wear by saucers like I’ve seen on most other tables. I’m missing a lockdown bar and a few small components. The cabinet art looks good, but it’s disintegrating at the edges. I feel like every time I touch it it comes apart, my truck bed looked like someone had been whittling in there by the time I got it home.

I must admit, working on this while corralling a 2 year old is a challenge I did not anticipate. As soon as I picked it up to put back legs on she started eating makeup, apparently I can finish bolts quite quickly under pressure.

The power cable was cut so I need to put on a new plug before I can test it.

What is the Cambion chip and daughter board that you have on yours? Mine is an empty socket.
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#165 4 years ago
Quoted from ArchStanton:

my truck bed looked like someone had been whittling in there by the time I got it home.

Quoted from ArchStanton:

As soon as I picked it up to put back legs on she started eating makeup, apparently I can finish bolts quite quickly under pressure.

Man, your posts are hilarious.

#166 4 years ago
Quoted from ArchStanton:

What is the Cambion chip and daughter board that you have on yours? Mine is an empty socket.

It’s a daughter/reset board, but people often remove those. Most System 80 games will boot and run without them. And sometimes leaving it hooked up will actually prevent a game from starting and/or lock the solenoids, if there’s some issue with the capacitors. It’s a watchdog circuit of sorts.

#167 4 years ago

Time to sample and play around...

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#168 4 years ago

Looks like a winner for base coat. Gloss Classic Gray. Two or three coats will be an almost perfect match to the original.

I thought the Hammered would have an interesting result (far right), but it’s way too shiny and doesn’t saturate well. Middle is way too light. These were the best 3 out of the 10 or so I tried.
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#169 4 years ago
Quoted from Colsond3:

Looks like a winner for base coat. Gloss Classic Gray. Two or three coats will be an almost perfect match to the original.
I thought the Hammered would have an interesting result (far right), but it’s way too shiny and doesn’t saturate well. Middle is way too light. These were the best 3 out of the 10 or so I tried.
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Since this is your first restore make sure to watch that overspray on the car.

#170 4 years ago
Quoted from bssbllr:

Since this is your first restore make sure to watch that overspray on the car.

Haha. Bastard. Just did a tiny test area. All is well.

#171 4 years ago
Quoted from Colsond3:

Haha. Bastard. Just did a tiny test area. All is well.

Really admire your work. Thanks for posting.

#172 4 years ago

Thanks Bob. Hope all is well with you man.

I’m going to tape off one stenciled side tomorrow and lay on a base gray and play with some white webbing. If it doesn’t look good enough, just going to redo the whole cabinet.

Once Spidey is done, I need to get back to this puppy. So I’m eager.

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#173 4 years ago
Quoted from Colsond3:

Thanks Bob. Hope all is well with you man.

Yes sir thank you!

Quoted from Colsond3:

Once Spidey is done, I need to get back to this puppy. So I’m eager.

I was just wondering about that.

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#174 3 years ago

So the final method of blending it someone suggested still didn’t work with a result of good webbing.

And the cabinet surface is way too rough from years of wear & tear to look good without proper sanding anyway.

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#175 3 years ago

So good news. I loaded it up, took it to a buddy that does professional paint work. He said he can replicate the webbing with non-thinned lacquer, as they did in the factory.

So now I have to sand it down, stencils are being made, and he is going to do a primer, basecoat and webbing, and maybe a few custom special touches before clear coat.

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#176 3 years ago

There was another thread recently ( a month ago ? ) with a restore and a guy spraying fake webbing or a similar effect but I can’t remember the game ( not spidey ) to lookit up or reference it . Glad to see this is still moving forward !

#177 3 years ago
Quoted from NevadaNutJob:

There was another thread recently ( a month ago ? ) with a restore and a guy spraying fake webbing or a similar effect but I can’t remember the game ( not spidey ) to lookit up or reference it . Glad to see this is still moving forward !

Yeah, it’s been a while...ended up getting really busy and not having huge gaps of time to work on this.

Really amped now and looking forward to seeing what he can do with it. He does the Flyers goalie masks, and has done work for Travis Barker and some other people. Should be killer.

And at least now it will be done professionally, and I can watch him every step of the way to learn better myself.

#178 3 years ago
Quoted from Colsond3:

ended up getting really busy

No one here on Pinside even noticed.

#179 3 years ago

One of the main reasons I passed on trying to do a full restoration on Spiderman was largely due to the cabinet. Glad to see you've got the guts (or the connections) to complete it.

#180 3 years ago
Quoted from radial_head:

One of the main reasons I passed on trying to do a full restoration on Spiderman was largely due to the cabinet. Glad to see you've got the guts (or the connections) to complete it.

Definitely. This one is a challenge, and more complex than the 4 or 5 others I’ve totally repainted and stenciled to this point. Just feels like there’s a lot of room for error, or it to come out crappy.

For $300 or $400 most likely, totally worth it to have a seasoned pro help me tackle it so it comes out awesome and shiny.

Now this thing should look like a brand new game out of the box when I’m done. Well, with some more color and modifications.

#181 3 years ago

Took the final measurements and photos earlier to finish up the stencil design.

Should be printing a small sample round in the next day or two just to make sure everything lines up before I sand this thing down and the artwork is gone.

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#182 3 years ago
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#183 3 years ago

Going to need a lot of clean up. Platform is really picking up the imperfections.

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#184 3 years ago
Quoted from Colsond3:

He does the Flyers goalie masks.

He must be a Billionaire the sheer number of goalies the Flyers have gone through in the last 5 years alone!
lol

#185 3 years ago
Quoted from Canuck_pinhead:

He must be a Billionaire the sheer number of goalies the Flyers have gone through in the last 5 years alone!
lol

That is funny. I’m a Penguins fan myself, so I’m used to championships.

I did have high hopes for Mason, but even he gets injured and doesn’t play to the top of his game often enough.

#186 3 years ago

Inkscape wasn’t cutting it, so switched to scanner. That will get the outlines much cleaner for the vinyl cutter anyway.

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#187 3 years ago

16 scanned images pieced back together. Almost there.

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#188 3 years ago

Backbox images all restitched. Now just have to clean up the outlines.

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#189 3 years ago

Hi,

if you want to stick to the original, plan to do stencils from that.
No sticker, just a sheet of PLA laying on the cabinet.
One stencil per color of course (red and blue)
The hardest will be the webbing to do.

Great job

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#190 3 years ago

Stencils finally getting tuned and border lines cleaned up.

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#191 3 years ago
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#192 3 years ago

Crap.

Anybody local have a 28”, 32” or 36” vinyl cutter? I only have 24”, and the art is 2 1/2” short on the cab width for this printer/cutter.

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#193 3 years ago

You sure that's scaled right? I don't think the cab is 28" tall, but mine is buried in storage at the moment.

#194 3 years ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

You sure that's scaled right? I don't think the cab is 28" tall, but mine is buried in storage at the moment.

I know it isn’t 28” in the front of the cabinet as the graphic indicates, but it is in the rear under the pedestal. I’ll double check it later.

Going to do a test run with a smaller-scaled decal on a 1x4’ board just to see how it comes out.

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#195 3 years ago

Simple test run with some rattle cans...

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#196 3 years ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

You sure that's scaled right? I don't think the cab is 28" tall, but mine is buried in storage at the moment.

And it’s obviously not scaled right....it must’ve recalibrated something unexpectedly. I have the dimensions of the cab and backbox up in Post #181.

#197 3 years ago

Got a little overzealous with pulling the blue off...red wasn’t dry enough. Looks pretty decent as a first sample test run though. Need to tweak the left edge a little.

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#198 3 years ago

What’s the chances of getting those cabinet scans so I can make stencils and offer them to everyone?

#199 3 years ago

Just discovered this topic. I’ve owned a Spider-Man (on my second) for about 20 years. I had a very nice one and then bought a beautiful one from my friend Steve Charland’s family after he sadly passed away. Given it was Steve’s game and one of my favorite pins, I’ll never sell it.
That aside, your restoration is looking awesome and has given me a few ideas re powder coating.
If you need any info, pictures, or anything else, let me know. Seems like you are way beyond needing anything, but the offer stands.
I was lucky enough to meet Stan Lee and talk about the game. He had one and totally remembered the game. He even signed a custom apron card for me.
I have owned a good number of pins, but I always liked the play on this game. Great theme, art, and play.
Good luck and cannot wait to see the finished product.

#200 3 years ago
Quoted from PinballPimp:

What’s the chances of getting those cabinet scans so I can make stencils and offer them to everyone?

That would be awesome. Do you need the original BMP files? It’s already digitized into vector files for printing on a vinyl cutter. Just haven’t had a chance yet to go back and resize it.

In the middle of moving. I’ll shoot you a PM.

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