Hi All,

I noticed on my Dimension that the machine does not reward extra balls for points (sort of).

Here's the sort of part.....It will add a ball for scoring if the 10,000 reel rolls over via a pop bumper hit but not if rolled over by a 3000pt or 500pt switch.

The difference is that when scoring the 3000 or 500 points, the score motor rotates, while rolling over from a 1000 pt pop bumper hit, it does not.

The machine counts up to 5 balls easily on start up, and adds extra balls when the Wow targets are hit. The C relay (add ball count unit relay) works well, if triggered manually, the knocker knocks and a ball is added, when scoring from the 3000 and 500 pt switched, the C relay pulls in, the knocker coil fires, but the ball count unit does not step up.

Signed confused in NJ

Thanks Mark,

I've just noticed that the score motor does not always home. there are times when it stops and the kickoff hole won't eject until I rotate the score motor.

although when the ball doesn't eject, the other score motor functions do work.

related???

Jumped to the 100's reel, they both advance correctly, that was never the problem. They problem is that the machine doesn't step up the ball count unit when the points are made (30,000 & 60,0000 in this case) unless the score motor is not running. When the score motor runs, as in when a 3000pt or 500pt pf switch is made, the knocker knocks, but the ball count unit doesn't step up. If it rolls from 29,000 for example to 30,000 via a thousand when lit hit on the pop bumper or from 29,990 and a 10pt sling switch is hit, the ball is added (the score motor does not run in those instances)

also, If I jump O-B to B-W on Motor 1C (the blades are next to each other), the step up coil pulls in, and advance when I disconnect the jumper. They appear to be making good contact, unfortunately, my wife drove off with my tools in the car, so I can't check if they're making good contact with a meter, or squeeze the points. yup, blame it on the wife.

Exactly, I've been thinking its a timing issue, but haven't figured it out yet. So, what's different in that circuit if the score motor is moving?

I can almost breath on the C relay and it adds a ball.

That make or break is where I've been focusing, but I can't find anything obvious. If I understand it, when the motor is not moving, the path goes through the N.C. side, and when the motor moves, the path is through the N.O. side. Maybe it's time to trace that wire, or jump from the switch to the ball count unit, could it be a jones plug going to the head?

AHHA!

Well perhaps AHHA!

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Yup, that was the problem. Broken blade.

Aside from abusive people? IDK