OP

Quoted from chuckwurt:

I have had issues with my game for years with skipping players, and top saucer kickout not always kicking the ball out on the first pass of the score motor. See below for the original post where this issue, if it happens causes balls or players to be skipped.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/grand-prix-skipping-players#post-6918823
What I feel is the issue is it has something to do with the circuit that drives the top saucer, drop target reset, and outhole kickout. See video below. At 16-17 seconds you will see that the top saucer only scores 2k points on the first pass of the score motor, then it scores the remaining 3k and kicks the ball out.
Same for the drops. at the end of the video, the game only scores 2k points for the first pass of the motor, does not reset the drops, then scores the remaining 3k, and resets the drops.

I feel if I fix these issues, my outhole intermittently not kicking the ball out and skipping players will be fixed.
thanks!

OP

Quoted from chuckwurt:

Really? Even though these are 5,000 point awards?

OP

Quoted from chuckwurt:

My issues got a bit worse when I cleaned and adjusted the ball index relay. Here are my issues. See videos below. The one shows the game skipping multiple players before it kicks the ball out. the other shows how the 500 and 5000 point awards do not give the correct points always, or in the case of the saucer and drops, it takes 2 passes of the score motor to score the points and kick the ball out/reset the drops.

OP

Quoted from chuckwurt:

All look fine to me. Not seeing pitted contacts anywhere.
Did some more tested and verified that the 100 and 1000 relays appear to be operating properly. They pulse 5 times when the award scores correctly. When the issue occurs, they only fire the amount of times they are pulsed. So whatever tells them to pulse in these situations is not always making solid contact imo.
So for the saucer collect for example. What tells the game to fire the 1000 relay 5 times? I assume a switch on the score motor right? Something there fires 5 times while the score motor runs?

OP

Quoted from chuckwurt:

It’s plenty easy to get to those stacks by simply unscrewing them. Do you leave them attached when cleaning and adjusting? Found it really hard to get at the switches when the stacks were still attached to the motor housing.