GL is one of my favorites!

I'm the lucky one that Neo did that GL pf for. He's got mad skillz to be sure. He also did a light touch up and clear of my NOS Medusa PF. He is a pleasure to deal with. Send him your business with confidence!

Unfortunately, I am minus the mad skillz and looking for someone to put my machine back together. I have the proto glass as well. If you want the job and live near So. CA - PM Me! I need to play this thing.

Ty

Hello fellow GL lovers! This is my first public "hint" at a project I have been working on over the past couple of years. These are done with permission by arguably the best repro artists out there and will be available through Bay Area Amusements by...??? No idea, and not my place to say. I just wanted to let you know that there is some GL love coming our way! (I purposely messed the photo up as the colors are not finished and I didn't want this pic to be used for a critique of the final product in any way)GLPlastique.JPG

Yeah, I got no information whatsoever about pfs. Nothing that I can help with either. I had mine go through a major restore with Captain Neo a couple years back.

Not too much to dish - I did some fitting tests today for the plastics and things are moving forward. No idea on an eta when these will end up at BAA, but I actually held some in my hands today so its becoming a reality!

I bought a promo plastic on eBay so it could be included in the set (2x) for everyone. I also had extra room for an extra set of slings and lane guides. I hope folks dig it.

All Hail The Grand Lizard!

Lucky for me, Jason's GL went to another friend of mine. As I STILL have not gotten mine rebuilt yet. Any takers in So Cal to do a pf swap for me? (please PM!)

The delay on the GL plastics is all on me as my life got smacked around a bit this summer. Picking the ball back up next week! Going to do a size and hole test with a set on what was Jason's old machine.

Looks like the plastics are in stock now. They should also come with an extra set of slings.

http://www.pinballrebel.com/game/pins/instruction/index.htm

I agree. Lurzur, you are doing a fine job! If you keep it close to the Faris style and add stuff to the larger pieces, I would be interested as well. (Also color matching the machine art, not that gaudy blue) I would look for small elements already in the artwork and include them. (Mandrll(s)? Bones? Anyone?)

It would be nice if someone could take pics of the prototype game picture above to give Lurzur to at least give him a little help on making his plastics roughly close to those. (But better!).

Hopefully, there would be enough interested parties to make a production run possible!
Keep up the good work!

If there is enough interest I'll see if I can get the "prototype style" plastics made. Why deal with stickers when you can have the "real" deal?
I was responsible for getting one of the reruns of the original GL sets made for PPS. (see earlier in this thread) I worked with the same company that is responsible for making a bunch of the repo stuff available today.
I forget what the magic number is for the amount of sets needed to be made at a time so I don't get stuck paying a bunch out of pocket while keeping the price around $125. Fortunately, plastics are not as sophisticated process as PFs or BGs so the number isn't too high. Also, I'm not doing it to make money so that also helps keep the number low. I'm pretty sure it's around 10 sets though.
I've never been a fan of the non-matching Python art and GL is one of my all time favorites so I'm motivated to do this project.

Hey Luzur, glad someone with talent is doing this!

If this does go into production please be as accurate with the plastic sizes and shapes as possible. Make sure to include the holes for the screws as well. There also needs to be a bit of a margin between the art and the edge of the plastic too. The art cannot go right up to the edge as it looks like you have it now. It will need a strong outline too. I also would even suggest making a copy of each piece, cut it out and then see how they fit on your machine.

I will see if I can get a paper print out of the layout I did for the original plastics as a guide. I think that would be helpful.

As far as finishing the art for production goes... Someone else would need to comment on that. I imagine your line art would need to be traced so it's nice and solid and the colors are strong and consistent as well. Are you going to "finish" these on a computer?

Creatively, I suggest that you keep it as close to Paul Faris style as possible. I would try to avoid any specific "custom" elements not copied from his work. (As in, don't draw your version of a mandril but closely copy one of his) I think even looking at some other machines he did would be helpful for adding different elements not found on GL that would work with the theme. For example, the skulls from Paragon.

The games that Paul Faris did around that time with that sort of style are: Centaur, Paragon, Lost World, Andromeda and maybe Space Invaders. After those, the runners up that *might* have useful elements are Hook and Frankenstein.

And, again, I think it would be a good idea if some could send Luzur better photos of those prototype plastics pictured above.

I have a bit of experience with all this but I'm far from an expert and encourage interested parties (people who would actually want a set) to chime in as to what would do this special set of plastics justice and to make them desirable to us GL owners.

Personally, something I would like to see is some type of a symmetrical element added to the sling plastics like a skull or weapon.

Please chime in GL peeps!

Maybe I'm wrong about the outline? Maybe I'm thinking of the outline of the plastic itself. I'll figure that out.

Meh, personally I am not interested in a direct copy of the prototype set. An actual set would be one thing but since these won't be, might as well make them better. That blue... Oofa doo!

Thanks for this! Looks like there are at least a few of us interested so far!

The lizard claw is pretty awesome.

I find the bones and skulls on this plastic and the other you posted look a little "cartoony" to me. Not sure why. Too clean? Teeth too big? Shape? Not sure.

Here is Paragon.

On the lower left are some Faris skulls. (I know you ain't Faris. )
Maybe that helps?

Don't take my criticism harshly. It's 10x better than I can do. Lol. Besides, I'm really digging it because it's 100x more appropriate and cooler than the production plastics! Keep it up!

I agree, you are doing a great job and you should be having fun! You asked for input so I opened my big mouth is all.

Like I said earlier, this is already miles away from the production plastics they rushed onto GL AND those proto plastics we have seen if I may say so?

Thanks for putting in the time, I really do hope you are enjoying the process.

The problem I have run into with the vinyl print places is that they don't have a thick enough plastic and the result is flimsy and cheap and doesn't come across like they are real pinball plastics. Hopefully there is a place that has nice and thick plastic/vinyl to print on.

(this is what I observed/how it was explained to me when I worked on the production GL plastics) The original art is arranged so they will fit onto one sheet of plastic. Then the art is modified for proper color and transparency. That modified art is used to make a "screen" that is then used to print the art onto the clear sheets of plastic. Similar to a silk screen process. Then each sheet is laser cut.

Wow!

Oh yes. Keep on truckin'!

I am going to have lunch with "my" restro guy (that I did the GL production plastics with) next week and see how realistic it is to get this into the queue. I know that he is pretty stocked up and it probably won't be until at least Feb for him to get to them if he can. I can also get that "magic number" for how many sets it takes to make a run affordable.

In the meantime, let's see more more pics of the work in progress!

Wouldn't we all! A couple years ago, via this forum, I met a guy who made custom metal ramps for his GL and they were Jack Slick! Laser cut patterns, the whole nine yards. He said that it was a passion project and far from something that he could make worthwhile for multiple sets.

I know nothing about that kind of metal work. Maybe someone here does? They are not that complicated of ramps, but I cannot see that making those would be an easy job!

Someone in the pinball hobby steal art and ideas just to take credit and make a quick buck?!? That will never happen!

Yes, the price point will be around there I'm hoping. I wanna see these made and it looks like there are enough other folks that do too.
In addition to a queue before us, a couple key team players need to be found/hired. Unfortunately, I cannot even make an estimate on delivery at this time.
If/when it does happen, I can assure you all that the quality will be as professional as the production plastics I helped produce for PPS.

This person is looking for a new vendor for a laser cutter and also an artist who preps the art for screening.

Shouldn't be too much of a problem to find folks, it's just not currently a priority as his current clients don't need either.

They can be added without extra cost I'm thinking. I forget but I'm pretty sure we had enough room on the production plastics to include an extra pair of the lower plastics AND an additional set of sling plastics so folks would have spares. So maybe in this case we have the extra set have the different art. We also had the key fob in there. Any desire to design a new key fob, Luzur?

A new key fob isn't mandatory. I just thought it could be cool. Don't wanna use the original design or the one of the mandrill (or any original art) as that is copy protected.

Looks great!

If it gets blown again during normal use, it's time to start investigating.

Welcome! Nice and varried line up. Love it!

I used the freeze method on mine. Wasn't fun and didn't work well for me.